18-6 w/LO @ 4, but what will record be with LO @ 3 now? =)

Kwame's Cake · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject:

55 wins?

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B-scott is funny

On the one hand he says We'll never win 55 games because of Kobe. Then he predicts that we'll win 55. Then he uses stats to prove it but then in another argument says "don't use stats".

Mr contradiction as i say,

Lamar is a 16-10 not impact player. PJ is realizing this and is leaving LO on the bench. We blew the clippers out with Odom on the bench.

Lamar for Rasheed wallace!
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Lamar never needed to come back in for his normal rotation because we were blowing the Clips out. It was a rare moment when the Zenmaster actually gave Lamar some much earned rest. He played a good game, with impact, to get us to the point where when he left the game we continued to beat down the Zips and there was never any reason to put him back in.
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GCMD, you win for the longest post ever.

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Better theoretical mismatch actually, and better for LO's long-term preservation.

Whatever the case, Lamar DID NOT struggle at PF last season.

Period.
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i thought he'd be more effective at the SF, but i guess i was wrong. he just does NOT take advantage of his mismatches and if he's not doing that, there's no point of playing him there.

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GCMD,

Nice long post but you've got a couple holes in there.

1) Rasheed is a better 3pt shooter but not that much better. Unless, you ONLY want to look at last year (where Odom shot 30% to Sheed's 35%). Do you want to run the same analysis argument for the year prior to last? (HINT: You don't, Odom shot 37.1% from downtown Sheed didn't do quite as well).

While Sheed is a better long distance shooter, it kills his over shooting percentage. Yes, he's 47% for his career, but that's only because for the first 6-7 seasons of his career I don't think he took ANY 3-point shots at all. Ever since he started taking 3s his FG% has dropped from 50% to as low as 41%.

2) You said LO took 182 3's last season while Luke only took 124. Did you adjust for playing time at all? Just wondering, I haven't looked at the numbers. Luke didn't play as many minutes as Odom to the tune of probably almost 20%. Luke also played in more games I think (not many but a few). Gotta factor those in ... I mean ... unless ... you intentionally didn't look at those things to dramatize the results.... (I'm assuming it was an 'oversight')

3) I think you make a good point about Lamar taking too many 3's for a post option. I'd tend to agree. You should be happy he's cut down his long distance shooting this season. Hopefully that'll mean "better" points. I still want him taking that 3-ball couple times a game though ... he can shoot it and he can hit up ... just keep the attempts down and take them within the context of the offense.

4) You're right that we NEED post production ... but that doesn't HAVE to come primarily from Lamar does it? Why MUST it come from the 4? Why couldn't it come from say, the 5? In a season or two, reliably? I'm not sure why you're so adamant that it HAS to come from the 4. I mean I get that that philosophy falls in line with your whole Odom thing, but seriously, why MUST it come from the 4? We just need a reliable post option, 4 or 5.

5) I am not opposed to improving the roster. But we're rolling right now, playing well. If we're gonna mess with the chemistry we've got, it better be for somethign outstanding. A no-brainer. Your whole Drew Gooden infatuation isn't going to cut it. We're playing good basketball and that's without Lamar at 100%.

Is the Drew Gooden > Lamar obsession rooted back to the fact that Jerry West drafted him over Amare or something?

Drew Gooden is a nice role player, but he can't create his own shot and he's a terrible passer. He's not any better shooting FTs, not any better a defender so it sounds to be like it's a desire change just to change ... which is fair ... I just prefer an actual strategy is all.

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