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lakerzkb8, you really got to stay up to date on your Batmedia. I already posted that spoiler a couple days ago. You slacker. Tisk-tisk. 
I'm a little scared to have Two-Face and Riddler in another movie together. Flashbacks to Batman Forever  . But I trust Nolan. I'm not sure who could pull off a dark Riddler. Crispen Glover could probably pull it off.
I would like to see Nolan create a Jigsaw-esque Riddler (minus the gore) because his traps were an intricate part to the character in the comics and the animated series, that wasn't explored in Batman Forever. I think the Riddler storyline would draw comparisons to that of a David Fincher movie (Se7en, The Game).
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Exactly my point, replacing Keaton killed it for me (among other things of course) and it would be the same with a huge actor in this series. It would take me out of the movie and I'd be comparing their performances, I just don't see it working. If you guys here are down with replacing Heath that's cool, I'm just saying personally I wouldn't like it.
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| No thanks to Riddler. I have a strange feeling it be too saw-esque. Please nolan give us some Bane. |
I'd like to see a Jigsaw-like Riddler. It would be much more interesting that the pathetic excuse for a Riddler than Ace Ventura gave us.
Plus I don't think you can have Bane as a main villain. Since the Riddler doesn't get into hand to hand combat fights, he could be one of the muscles working for the Riddler.
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bane....in a 3rd movie......not going to happen......nolan wants to keep things in the semi real world....riddler is the next best thing.
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| bane....in a 3rd movie......not going to happen......nolan wants to keep things in the semi real world....riddler is the next best thing. |
exactly, Bane is way too silly
There is Riddler, Mad hatter, Two-Face, Scarface....
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| bane....in a 3rd movie......not going to happen......nolan wants to keep things in the semi real world....riddler is the next best thing. |
Hey! Bane can happen. Just cast Barry Bonds.
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lakerzkb8, you really got to stay up to date on your Batmedia. I already posted that spoiler a couple days ago. You slacker. Tisk-tisk.
I'm a little scared to have Two-Face and Riddler in another movie together. Flashbacks to Batman Forever . But I trust Nolan. I'm not sure who could pull off a dark Riddler. Crispen Glover could probably pull it off.
I would like to see Nolan create a Jigsaw-esque Riddler (minus the gore) because his traps were an intricate part to the character in the comics and the animated series, that wasn't explored in Batman Forever. I think the Riddler storyline would draw comparisons to that of a David Fincher movie (Se7en, The Game). |
 I went to NY for a week and a half so i wasn't in the loop.
Also, I agree 100% with the jigsaw-esque Riddler. I immeditely thought of Se7en when Riddler came to mind for this franchise. I really want the character to be an enigma, not so much Jim Carrey Riddler with those cheezy riddles with clocks and chess pieces.
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| bane....in a 3rd movie......not going to happen......nolan wants to keep things in the semi real world....riddler is the next best thing. |
exactly, Bane is way too silly
There is Riddler, Mad hatter, Two-Face, Scarface.... |
How is Bane silly and not Scarface 
Bane and Catwoman should be explored down the line in my opinion. I really would love to see elements from the Knightfall series come to life and some interaction with a female minus Racheal Dawes when Bruce is Batman.
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Ooh, sss, Catwoman, no thanks. You're right about Scarface being just as silly as Bane in this Batman universe though. Say no to Catwoman though, just too ridiculous for my taste, never liked her in any form, cartoon, movie, comic, you name it it's over the top IMO.
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how is scarface silly? Some dude is insane and uses a puppet
fits with the other Batman villains
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I don't know I just picture a guy walking around with a dummy looking a little silly in this particular Batman universe. A guy using a creepy mask to scare people with gas, sure, a guy with scary clown makeup, ok. But a guy with a dummy that's the bad guy I don't know it just seems a bit much. Maybe they could do it right, I don't know, I think it's hard to picture how Nolan will do things until he does them and then when he does it usually works so whatever.
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| I don't know I just picture a guy walking around with a dummy looking a little silly in this particular Batman universe. A guy using a creepy mask to scare people with gas, sure, a guy with scary clown makeup, ok. But a guy with a dummy that's the bad guy I don't know it just seems a bit much. Maybe they could do it right, I don't know, I think it's hard to picture how Nolan will do things until he does them and then when he does it usually works so whatever. |
oh c'mon, reread that. A guy with a scary looking dummy is no less silly than an insane clown or scarecrow
its allows for good writing and depth. Scarface isn't the most popular villain in batman but it leaves a window for great writing and direction. Look at the Iron Monger, he wasn't on anyones radar for Iron Man but he was pretty cool for what we saw.
it can be done, and i'd actually love to see Scarface. It'd give me nightmares for sure
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how is scarface silly? Some dude is insane and uses a puppet
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That's the silly part. Something cheezy like that might work in the Iron Man movie universe though.
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An insane dude who walks around with a puppet on his hand is miles and miles different from the major villians in the Batman universe like the Joker and 2face. Not even going to go into that.
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how is scarface silly? Some dude is insane and uses a puppet
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That's the silly part. Something cheezy like that might work in the Iron Man movie universe though.
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An insane dude who walks around with a puppet on his hand is miles and miles different from the major villians in the Batman universe like the Joker and 2face. Not even going to go into that. |
wtf? why did you bring that up for? You know nothing about the comic book world (as evident in your pathetic posts in the Iron Man vs Batman thread) Do you just WANT to get owned continuously?
I was being honest, Scareface isn't impossible and can be very creepy in a film. There is a strong crew working on these batman films and it can easily be done.
If you have a psycho clown, a psycho two-faced guy, a psycho doctor who loves fear and wears a mask (not to mention the other psychos in the bat universe)----a psycho guy with a dummy fits just as well as the others
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I don't see the comparison because those other psychos can fight back. Joker isn't some wimp, he fights back, same with Two-Face, and Scarecrow has the psycho drugs. How is Scarface gonna go after Batman in this particular universe is my question? If he can take on the Joker he can take on a dude with a puppet pretty easy. That's why I see guys like Two-Face and Riddler working better, but that's just me.
Also, maybe I'm reading them wrong but I get the sense from your posts that you're not a huge Batman fan. You're constantly comparing it to Iron Man as if that is the end all be all or the standard and you kinda just lump the villains together as if any of them will work because they're pretty much all silly, which I don't think is true.
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| I don't see the comparison because those other psychos can fight back. Joker isn't some wimp, he fights back, same with Two-Face, and Scarecrow has the psycho drugs. How is Scarface gonna go after Batman in this particular universe is my question? If he can take on the Joker he can take on a dude with a puppet pretty easy. That's why I see guys like Two-Face and Riddler working better, but that's just me. |
You want me to write a script for you? 
Seriously though, you can trust the makers of these films to come up with that stuff.
I just feels its a very intriguing idea and gives the writers a good amount to work with. Its definintely a creepy character that fits perfect in these batman films.
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Only the folks who take it too seriously, it doesn't make much sense, but whatever floats your boat. 
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Also, maybe I'm reading them wrong but I get the sense from your posts that you're not a huge Batman fan. You're constantly comparing it to Iron Man as if that is the end all be all or the standard and you kinda just lump the villains together as if any of them will work because they're pretty much all silly, which I don't think is true. |
that is absolutely untrue. I'm a huge Batman fan, where did you draw that stuff up from? I watched the 90s show religiously, i've watched all the films. Batman Begins was my no1 comic book film, above my all-time favorite superhero Spider-man, until Iron Man came around and blew me away.
I made ONE comparison than I all of a sudden "constantly" comparing them?
And i didn't say any villain would work. Bane will not work, Killer Croc will not work, Penguin will not work, etc
The ones that do work, are the creepy regular psychos. Which I mentioned
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Alright, my bad dodgers I just was getting that vibe. You've brought up Iron Man a lot in this thread and said it blew Begins away so I figured you weren't much of a Batman fan. Also you've said the hype for this movie has bothered you and you're constantly talking about how long it is still away so I thought you were saying you were sick of hearing about it or something. I was wrong though, so my bad. I agree on those villains though, no penguin please, no Croc, and no Catwoman for the love of god please
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| Alright, my bad dodgers I just was getting that vibe. You've brought up Iron Man a lot in this thread and said it blew Begins away so I figured you weren't much of a Batman fan. Also you've said the hype for this movie has bothered you and you're constantly talking about how long it is still away so I thought you were saying you were sick of hearing about it or something. I was wrong though, so my bad. I agree on those villains though, no penguin please, no Croc, and no Catwoman for the love of god please |
I mostly bring up Iron Man if someone mentions it, i usually don't go around saying it just because. This was the only time I recal where i started it, albeit i was kinda joking around until some peeps took me seriously
the hype has made me fatigued sort of speak. They began running their campaigns wayyy too early for my liking that i moved from the "i can't wait" to a "jeez just release the film already"
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| No thanks to Riddler. I have a strange feeling it be too saw-esque. Please nolan give us some Bane. |
I'd like to see a Jigsaw-like Riddler. It would be much more interesting that the pathetic excuse for a Riddler than Ace Ventura gave us.
Plus I don't think you can have Bane as a main villain. Since the Riddler doesn't get into hand to hand combat fights, he could be one of the muscles working for the Riddler. |
Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmates out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff
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Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmated out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff |
omg are you serious? Bane is one of the least interesting villains. A giant uber man, lame
He's one of the odd villains in Batman's rouge gallery along with Killer Croc
I mean, c'mon now. He's given a drug that turns him super huge and strong, is that anywhere near plausable in the current batman movieverse?
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Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmated out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff |
omg are you serious? Bane is one of the least interesting villains. A giant uber man, lame
He's one of the odd villains in Batman's rouge gallery along with Killer Croc
I mean, c'mon now. He's given a drug that turns him super huge and strong, is that anywhere near plausable in the current batman movieverse? |
Like I said earlier there are other versions of him that he doesn't need the drug but, is just like a really strong person that trained in jail and was released.
Plus he is about as cerebal as the other villians in the batman universe. As being plausiable into i see a killer clown on the 6 o clock news are some guy killing folks with riddles he is just as plausiable as them.
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Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmated out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff |
omg are you serious? Bane is one of the least interesting villains. A giant uber man, lame
He's one of the odd villains in Batman's rouge gallery along with Killer Croc
I mean, c'mon now. He's given a drug that turns him super huge and strong, is that anywhere near plausable in the current batman movieverse? |
Like I said earlier there are other versions of him that he doesn't need the drug but, is just like a really strong person that trained in jail and was released.
Plus he is about as cerebal as the other villians in the batman universe. As being plausiable into i see a killer clown on the 6 o clock news are some guy killing folks with riddles he is just as plausiable as them. |
I don't see how a Giant uber human is as plausable as a guy with face paint
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Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmated out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff |
omg are you serious? Bane is one of the least interesting villains. A giant uber man, lame
He's one of the odd villains in Batman's rouge gallery along with Killer Croc
I mean, c'mon now. He's given a drug that turns him super huge and strong, is that anywhere near plausable in the current batman movieverse? |
Like I said earlier there are other versions of him that he doesn't need the drug but, is just like a really strong person that trained in jail and was released.
Plus he is about as cerebal as the other villians in the batman universe. As being plausiable into i see a killer clown on the 6 o clock news are some guy killing folks with riddles he is just as plausiable as them. |
I don't see how a Giant uber human is as plausable as a guy with face paint |
They don't have to make him use the venom. Just have like say someone with the body type of Lou Ferringo (original tv hulk guy) and just have him be a really strong merceanry that messes with batman. The fact some guy who is acting like a killer clown
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Bane is IMO one of the Batman's best villians. He is very cerebal. Example in knightfall he let all the inmmated out of arkham just to weaken batman of fatigue then comes out and breaks Batman's back.
Bane isn't anymore ridiclous then a killer clown or some fool dressed up in green. Also there are other stories in the batman universe where he doesn't use the venom but, he just works out tremondously and is really buff |
omg are you serious? Bane is one of the least interesting villains. A giant uber man, lame
He's one of the odd villains in Batman's rouge gallery along with Killer Croc
I mean, c'mon now. He's given a drug that turns him super huge and strong, is that anywhere near plausable in the current batman movieverse? |
Like I said earlier there are other versions of him that he doesn't need the drug but, is just like a really strong person that trained in jail and was released.
Plus he is about as cerebal as the other villians in the batman universe. As being plausiable into i see a killer clown on the 6 o clock news are some guy killing folks with riddles he is just as plausiable as them. |
I don't see how a Giant uber human is as plausable as a guy with face paint |
They don't have to make him use the venom. Just have like say someone with the body type of Lou Ferringo (original tv hulk guy) and just have him be a really strong merceanry that messes with batman. The fact some guy who is acting like a killer clown |
If they don't use the venom then he's pretty much like anyother body builder. Which is uninteresting
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