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Batman Begins was the last movie to leave me awestruck. I haven't been that satisfied with a movie in a long time. I would honestly give it an A, almost A+. Nearly flawless.
I can't wait for the next film to come out. I'm highly anticipating this one and Spiderman 3. |
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Batman Begins was the last movie to leave me awestruck. I haven't been that satisfied with a movie in a long time. I would honestly give it an A, almost A+. Nearly flawless.
I can't wait for the next film to come out. I'm highly anticipating this one and Spiderman 3. |
See I have I hopes for Spider-Man 3, Pirates 3, and this next Batman as far as future movies and everything.....
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batman begins is my fav. superhero movie for sure, i cant wait til the dark knight
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Here's a question because I think I noticed it when I saw it and asked people but never got a straight and real answer....didn't Joker kill his parents??? Like wasn't that what sparked him to do all this stuff??? I ask because if so....they messed that part up as far as this new series of Batman because they killed the killer of his parents in the beginning of the movie and everything but whatever....it will be interesting how they make it all work if that was the case...as far as the hole thing between him and Joker......
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| Here's a question because I think I noticed it when I saw it and asked people but never got a straight and real answer....didn't Joker kill his parents??? Like wasn't that what sparked him to do all this stuff??? I ask because if so....they messed that part up as far as this new series of Batman because they killed the killer of his parents in the beginning of the movie and everything but whatever....it will be interesting how they make it all work if that was the case...as far as the hole thing between him and Joker...... |
No the Joker did not kill his parents. A thief killed his parents in the comic books, cartoons and the movies.
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| Here's a question because I think I noticed it when I saw it and asked people but never got a straight and real answer....didn't Joker kill his parents??? Like wasn't that what sparked him to do all this stuff??? I ask because if so....they messed that part up as far as this new series of Batman because they killed the killer of his parents in the beginning of the movie and everything but whatever....it will be interesting how they make it all work if that was the case...as far as the hole thing between him and Joker...... |
I think i see what you're saying.. imo, the first Batman movie messed it up a bit.. when they had the crook who killed bruce waynes parents use the line.."Tell me kid, Have you ever danced with the devil in th pale moonlight..?".. that was a catch line that joker in the comic books would use..
that mislead a lotta ppl into thinking that Batman was first out for revenge against the joker alone.. Batman Begins is the closest to the comic book series in terms of depicting bruce wayne and the emergence of batman..cant wait for the next one  |
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| Here's a question because I think I noticed it when I saw it and asked people but never got a straight and real answer....didn't Joker kill his parents??? Like wasn't that what sparked him to do all this stuff??? I ask because if so....they messed that part up as far as this new series of Batman because they killed the killer of his parents in the beginning of the movie and everything but whatever....it will be interesting how they make it all work if that was the case...as far as the hole thing between him and Joker...... |
I think i see what you're saying.. imo, the first Batman movie messed it up a bit.. when they had the crook who killed bruce waynes parents use the line.."Tell me kid, Have you ever danced with the devil in th pale moonlight..?".. that was a catch line that joker in the comic books would use..
that mislead a lotta ppl into thinking that Batman was first out for revenge against the joker alone.. Batman Begins is the closest to the comic book series in terms of depicting bruce wayne and the emergence of batman..cant wait for the next one |
So Michael Keaton wasn't hunting down Jack for revenge of parents!? Ok...that makes a little more sense now...although I haven't seen that one in years but whatever....I actually thought that was how him and Robin related in the Batman Forever Movie and everything so...but whatever...that clears up alot and everything....I guess...
I'll have to pay good attention to this one to be able to understand what I don't remember from the first one...even though it might be completely different from the old one.....
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Heath Ledger has quite a task before him. Jack Nicholson's Joker stole the show in the very first movie. The Michael Keaton Batman was almost like a supporting cast member compared to that Joker. The comparisons will be unavoidable and inevitable.
But I trust Nolan. He did such a great job with Batman Begins and if he believes Ledger has what it takes, so be it.
This will be a nice role for Ledger to distance himself from Brokeback Mountain. (Of course, the other title for this film Jokeback Mountain.
Now Nolan has to land Phillip Seymor Hoffman for the Penguin... |
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Heath Ledger has quite a task before him. Jack Nicholson's Joker stole the show in the very first movie. The Michael Keaton Batman was almost like a supporting cast member compared to that Joker. The comparisons will be unavoidable and inevitable.
But I trust Nolan. He did such a great job with Batman Begins and if he believes Ledger has what it takes, so be it.
This will be a nice role for Ledger to distance himself from Brokeback Mountain. (Of course, the other title for this film Jokeback Mountain.
Now Nolan has to land Phillip Seymor Hoffman for the Penguin... |
Could Hoffman pull it off...because it seems like they'd want to go for a short dude...like they did with DeVito...
But whatever....Hoffman did good as the bad guy in M:I 3 and he was cool in Twister
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Batman Begins is a pretty weird Batman movie in that you don't actually see Bruce Wayne as Batman until an HOUR into the movie....
But surpriseingly, it doesn't matter, because BRUCE WAYNE steals the story...Batman Begins really is centered around the fact that Bruce Wayne is his true "Mask" and Batman is who he really is....
Its great to see it...and Bale is a SUPERB actor...he just makes it his own role...
Micheal Cane captures Alfred's spirit....Morgan Freeman is convinceing as the old guy banished to the bowels of Wayne Enterprises abandoned science and research labs....Liam Neeson DWARFS Batman and provides a believeable as Bruce's mentor in the martial arts and vigilanti tactics...and later as his enemy....
In response to those saying that Joker killed Bruce's parents....that was NEVER in the comic-books....Tim Burton added that in Batman the movie in 1989....
THe current plot line is more true to the comics....so this is really just a reboot of the Batman story....disregard the previous movies and pretend that this was the first....thats the only way to fully appriciate Batman Begins
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Batman Begins is a pretty weird Batman movie in that you don't actually see Bruce Wayne as Batman until an HOUR into the movie....
But surpriseingly, it doesn't matter, because BRUCE WAYNE steals the story...Batman Begins really is centered around the fact that Bruce Wayne is his true "Mask" and Batman is who he really is....
Its great to see it...and Bale is a SUPERB actor...he just makes it his own role...
Micheal Cane captures Alfred's spirit....Morgan Freeman is convinceing as the old guy banished to the bowels of Wayne Enterprises abandoned science and research labs....Liam Neeson DWARFS Batman and provides a believeable as Bruce's mentor in the martial arts and vigilanti tactics...and later as his enemy....
In response to those saying that Joker killed Bruce's parents....that was NEVER in the comic-books....Tim Burton added that in Batman the movie in 1989....
THe current plot line is more true to the comics....so this is really just a reboot of the Batman story....disregard the previous movies and pretend that this was the first....thats the only way to fully appriciate Batman Begins |
Ok...that's cool...I was gonna say I remember hearing it somewhere like in the movie or something that Joker killed his family...but if these ones are closer to the comics good....it makes it a whole lot better in a lot of ways....like I said hopefully they end up doing all the Batman Movies like they should redo the ones with Two-Face and Riddler and Ivy and Freeze...but make them like the comics and better and cooler and everything...although Batman Forever was really good in my opinion with Carrey and Robin and all that so...I hope they go and redo them so that all the Batmans to just be played by Bale instead of 3 different people playing Batman....so.....
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| Could Hoffman pull it off...because it seems like they'd want to go for a short dude...like they did with DeVito... |
He's far from tall, standing at 5-9
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^ Compared to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, yes. But it puts Batman Returns, Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin to shame. It's arguably the best superhero movie (that and Spiderman are right up there).
I suggest seeing it as soon as you get the chance. |
I agree. To me Batman Begins is the best Superhero movie ever. |
Yep, no question.
Batman Begins is by far the BEST superhero movie of them all. And I didn't think the first Batman could be topped...
I didn't think the Spiderman films were all that great, and I haven't seen the new Superman, but Batman Begins is a movie masterpiece. |
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Heath Ledger has quite a task before him. Jack Nicholson's Joker stole the show in the very first movie. The Michael Keaton Batman was almost like a supporting cast member compared to that Joker. The comparisons will be unavoidable and inevitable.
But I trust Nolan. He did such a great job with Batman Begins and if he believes Ledger has what it takes, so be it.
This will be a nice role for Ledger to distance himself from Brokeback Mountain. (Of course, the other title for this film Jokeback Mountain.
Now Nolan has to land Phillip Seymor Hoffman for the Penguin... |
Definitely a tough task and villian to live up to. Remember these kinds of movies are only as good as the villian. If the villian is lame, so will the movie. |
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Yep. It has a great plot.
Only bad actor in the movie was Katie Holmes, but I've heard they replaced her. |
I actually liked her in there although she had some crappy parts and wasn't in it alo plus you had to laugh when they did the whole love scene stuff since she was just starting to get way serious with Tom Cruise and everything....
But if they replaced her...big whoop...plus it would make since because they never kept the same girl in there when it came to who Batman loved...I mean it went from Kim Baysinger to Michelle Pfiffer to Nicole Kidman to some other chick....so if she stays....it kind of throws it off....unless she is just there in the back-ground to fill space and stay friends...which is fine...but I hope they stay with the old look of a different girl everytime kind of like James Bond kind of thing so...... |
Thank you for stating the obvious they never keep any of the women in Batman's life unless its Catwoman and its never the same actress either.
Putting that aside I didn't hate her in it but I had issues with the movie as a whole I thought the franchise should've ended with Keaton and still do. Bale was good but I just don't care for Batman anymore. So I really could care less who's in it at this point. |
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Film Wad: Nolan said he was very surprised by Batman Begins’ success, “for the simple reason that I felt we had really poured our hearts out in making a good film and that on our own terms we had succeeded. I never really expected to satisfy critics and Batman fans and regular audiences equally. I mean I thought maybe we’d get two points on the drawing board if you like, but the fact that all three seemed to respond well, that was a big surprise to me. I mean it felt like you were going to lose one aspect or someone… I think we were very fortunate in that regard, it’s very gratifying.”
Talking about the follow-up, in which Heath Ledger will play The Joker opposite Christian Bale, he mentioned that they’re changing things up. “I think what people responded to well about ‘Batman Begins’ is how different it was from their expectations so I think we would be foolish to not recognize that and to [try to replicate that now predictable blueprint]. I think we’ll be doing something very different for the sequel. I certainly wouldn’t have any interest in trying to repeat experience or the formula we’ve made, because particularly being the origin story, it’s a very unique thing, a very singular experience. My interest would sort of be to move on from that and to do something quite different.” |
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Although i havent seen the latest Batman...
I havent watched a Batman movie all the way through since Michael Keaton 
Shame on me i guess.... someone sell me on it ! |
Uh its by far the best one made! |
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| I can't wait for this next movie to come out. Every time I read a news update about it, furthers my anticipation. |
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| the only things that sucks in batman begins are katie holmes and bat mobile |
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Batman Begins is a great movie. Probably the best super hero movie i've ever seen.
I think Heath Ledger is going to be a good Joker. Good actor. It'd be better than them getting guys like Arnold, Kutcher and Jim Carrey.
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Coming Soon.net: The Toronto Sun talked to Heath Ledger, who mentioned The Joker in The Dark Knight:
Come January, he starts playing the Joker, in Christopher Nolan's next Batman film The Dark Knight. "It's definitely going to stump people. I think it'll be more along the lines of how the Joker was meant to be in the comics, darker and more sinister."
The Toronto Star also got a quote from Ledger about the role:
I wouldn't have thought of me, either. But it's obviously not going to be what Jack Nicholson did. It's going to be more nuanced and dark and more along the lines of a Clockwork Orange kind of feel. Which is, I think, what the comic book was after: less about his laugh and more about his eyes.
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| the only things that sucks in batman begins are katie holmes and bat mobile |
Yeah right...the Bat Mobile was fricken awesome...plus you know that it is going to evolve more into the regular Bat Mobile look and everything...it'll probably look more and more like the Bat Mobile in the 4th one each movie...or they'll just make it look like that in this one...and said he just changed the design...or something.....
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Batman Begins is a great movie. Probably the best super hero movie i've ever seen.
I think Heath Ledger is going to be a good Joker. Good actor. It'd be better than them getting guys like Arnold, Kutcher and Jim Carrey. |
Kutcher would of been an excellent and awesome Joker but whatever...maybe he can play a different role in a different Batman. And then Jim Carrey rocked at Riddler...everytime I think of a Batman...it's that one and his lines and acting...they were awesome and funny.....
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Film Wad: Its always been speculated that Guy Pearce might be involved with one of the new “Batman” movies one day – because of his association with “Memento” director Christopher Nolan, who helms the “Bat” blockies – and now, according to Batman On Film, said speculation might be spot-on.
Pearce is said to be the new favourite – Now that Live Schrieber is apparently no longer in the running – to play Harvey Dent, Gotham D.A, in “The Dark Knight”. Dent’s a good-guy that teams up with Batman to bring down The Joker (Heath Ledger) in the next pic. Later on though, Dent himself goes a little screwloose, involuntarily transformed into the disfigured menace, ‘Two-Face’.
If Pearce signs for the film, he’ll be the second Aussie onboard the pic. Ledger, of course, hails from beachy Perth. |
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Guy Pearce would be great for that role.
He can play hero and villians, go check out LA Confidential and Count of Monte Crisco. He did a great job in both films. |
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| the only things that sucks in batman begins are katie holmes and bat mobile |
Yeah right...the Bat Mobile was fricken awesome...plus you know that it is going to evolve more into the regular Bat Mobile look and everything...it'll probably look more and more like the Bat Mobile in the 4th one each movie...or they'll just make it look like that in this one...and said he just changed the design...or something..... |
its alright to change the design. but the bat mobile is not bat mobile enough. It was GI JOE- ish |
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I dont think anybody mentioned it but i have a small problem with this joker thing. In the original keaton batman movie, the creation of the joker was already revealed. They're just going to re'do it this time with heath ledger and try to make it better? Won't it just be a remake of sort to the original batman movie? I loved "begins" by the way. jack was amazing as the joker. He set the bar high for ledger.
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^ Just because it is going to have the same criminal character as the oringinal Batman movie, that doesn't mean they are going to photo copy that movie or have one similarity to how Batman (Keaton, Jack) portrayed the Joker. Batman Begins was nothing like any of the other movies. It was much darker and put together MUCH better.
From what I've read, they plan on making this Joker much darker and less of a comedic figure.
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Film Wad: Its always been speculated that Guy Pearce might be involved with one of the new “Batman” movies one day – because of his association with “Memento” director Christopher Nolan, who helms the “Bat” blockies – and now, according to Batman On Film, said speculation might be spot-on.
Pearce is said to be the new favourite – Now that Live Schrieber is apparently no longer in the running – to play Harvey Dent, Gotham D.A, in “The Dark Knight”. Dent’s a good-guy that teams up with Batman to bring down The Joker (Heath Ledger) in the next pic. Later on though, Dent himself goes a little screwloose, involuntarily transformed into the disfigured menace, ‘Two-Face’.
If Pearce signs for the film, he’ll be the second Aussie onboard the pic. Ledger, of course, hails from beachy Perth. |
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If they have someone being 2 face....they have to keep going on it now....so they'll have to do BATMAN FOREVER....over again....and then maybe they'll want to do Batman and Robin over again....
If they do Batman Forever over....hopefully they find someone cool to be Robin....like Kutcher or someone.... 
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| the only things that sucks in batman begins are katie holmes and bat mobile |
Yeah right...the Bat Mobile was fricken awesome...plus you know that it is going to evolve more into the regular Bat Mobile look and everything...it'll probably look more and more like the Bat Mobile in the 4th one each movie...or they'll just make it look like that in this one...and said he just changed the design...or something..... |
its alright to change the design. but the bat mobile is not bat mobile enough. It was GI JOE- ish |
So now they take it in this one...and make it the Bat Mobile and not G.I. JOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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