Bynum's athleticism deceptive?

la3346 · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 2775

Check out this dunk by Tyrus Thomas:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldgQbvC_tfg&search=tyrus%20thomas

Pretty impressive right? But then compare that with this

and you'll see that Bynum's hands are actually a bit higher than Thomas'(pause Thomas' dunk, at no point, his hands are higher than Bynum's.)

Here's the video of Bynum's dunk:

http://rapidshare.de/files/25417031/SPL-070906-1stHalf.mpg.html

You can tell that Thomas were running at full steam while Bynum is standing still.

Now Tyrus Thomas has a standing reach of 9'0 and a max vertical of 39", and a max jumping reach of 12'3(you can get this just by adding those two together). According to Mitch, Bynum can reach 9 inches above the top of the backboard inner square, which is 22 inches high(it's actually 18 inches, but the lines add 2 inches each), which would make his max reach 12'7.

Now Bynum is rumored to have a 33" standing vertical and a 37" max vertical, add them together and it would come out 12'3 for standing vertical and 12'7 for max reach. Well, 12'3 is Thomas running(max) reach, and we can see in the video that Thomas's running jump(max) reach is equal to Bynum's standing vertical reach, so clearly he's not lying.
What's even more impressive is that Howard has a max reach of 12'6, so Bynum can actually reach 1" higher than Howard.

However, if you look at the video of Bynum's dunk, Bynum sure didn't "look" explosive. What I'd like to see is someone to throw Bynum a lob pass while he gets a full head of steam, perhaps then we'll see his explosiveness.

trodgers · Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject:

Interesting stuff. When I first heard about Bynum's vertical, I was blown away. A guy that big with that kind of leaping ability on top of his mass is ridiculous.
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killacam · Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 617

/\says rite there, 33" standing, 37" max

the sauce · Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 751 Location: Bay Area

Fascinating.

MoneyMike · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 435 Location: Alaska

pretty sick for a big man jam2

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dagreatkobe · Joined: 27 Aug 2005 Posts: 1458 Location: Los Angeles

im sorry but i think tyrus can get up higher than that... bynum has great athleticsm, but tyrus is explosive...

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I wish you wouldn't use that crap rapid share, can't you use Utube?

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21_Blessings · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

I think Bynum's problem is he doesn't know how to use his athleticism and body correctly yet. He is still raw.

Playing more minutes will alleviate that problem, but will probably take 2-3 more years.

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get back on the block & show me something.
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damNzzi~ · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 519

I think people read too much into vertical stuff nowadays...

I think it mattered alot before, because the tempo of the game was slower. If a guy could jump high, he would dunk on people. Guys had some time to gather and do their moves.

In today's league i think that vertical is VERY overrated facet of a player's athleticism. Explosiveness is WAY more important, because people get faster,stronger and the game is played at faster pace.

Why do you think Amaré dunked on people like nothing? It isn't like he has out-of-this-world vertical jumping ability...
The guy is SUPER-explosive. He can explode any second and dunk on someone. Same goes for guys like Kobe,T-Mac and Shaq (just for example) whom can explode anytime. We have seen Kobe explode for a block in a millisecond.

Bynum isn't by any means explosive (amare-like), but his vertical is pretty fine. That's why it takes time for him to dunk. He can't and won't just explode in traffic and facialise people. It's just not his game because his physicue doesn't allow it.

What if he would be explosive? There's another Shaq for you right there. Elite size, good vertical and vgood work ethic.

It's just that you can't have it all. Shaq didn't have the work ethic. bang

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mpresev · Joined: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 187

Frankly, besides Shaq. Who is the 2nd best Center? to me it's Bynum even though he hasn't really played yet I just know he is the next best center... WE might see this this year.
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KB24@CL · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:26 am Post subject:

I agree with all but Kandiman...Bynum > Kandiman
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High IQ · Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 12066 Location: EU Latvia Riga

hell even Mihm is somehow better than Bynum RIGHT NOW.
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karacha · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 15499

^

Why even Mihm - Mihm is a legit starter, and many teams in the league could use him irght now. Bynum has more potential than Mihm, sure - but Mihm has a lot of experience as a backup center and as a starter.

I believe Bynum will develop into a very solid starting NBA center. Everything over that is just gravy. Because good real centers are rare. If you look at the list above - sure it's true. Most of those guys are better players than Socks (right now). But how many legit centers do we see there?

Shaq, Yao, Miller, Kaman, Krstic, maybe Ben... that's pretty much it.

In the worst case, Bynum should be very good defensive center. Someone who can alter and block shots and push people around. Because he will be a huge 300-pound man soon.
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la3346 · Joined: 30 May 2006 Posts: 2775

Sorry, but Mihm isn't capapble of averaging 17, 9 and 3, in any league. I'd be surprised if Bynum doesn't take his spot, if not even start, by the end of the season.

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Hopefully not a Jerome james clone

KB24@CL · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: