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Defensive Assignments: Kobe on AI, Vlad on Melo
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzy1 wrote:
2 really bad ideas. Why risk Kobe getting foul trouble no one in the league draws as many petty touch fouls as AI he'll juke and fall down like Kobe sledged hammered him and its to the bench for Kobe. I'd do it late but not early. Have Fish and Farmar chase him around.

And Vlad will get eaten alive he needs to save the mental energy by just guarding Kmart and having Odom use his length challenging Melo's jumpers then have Luke off the bench guard him.

We're gonna have to score some points so I'd rather just get our buckets get the lead and then switch Kobe over on either Melo or AI depending on who's hot..


haha, then who do you suggest guard Iverson? Fish? man10

And apparently you didn't watch the first game we played against Denver this season when Lamar was back playing SF and Melo torched him in the first half.

Besides, it's the playoffs. Adjustments can and will be made.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sure they will adjust, dont assume they will be on those guys the whole game , things will change game to game and wel adjust.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe it's just me but I seem to remembering Luke doing a pretty decent job on Melo. Well, at least better than Vlad.


its not just u, i remember that as well

im sure Luke will get a turn to go at Melo. If he does well he will earn more mins
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that even matters is that we destroy them on the other end (offense). We can guard everyone except Melo and Iverson very well.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the question is:
who will guard Laker Killer Lina Kleiza man1




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call me whatever but i see Kobe having a foul problem while defending Iverson. Also this might effect his offensive performance. I would rather use Vujacic on him at times or let Fisher/Farmar make Ivy play defense on them. Kobe can guard him at the fourth quarter, if necessary.

As for the Radman on Carmelo, i don't see it a good idea either. I would use Lamar, who is a very underrated defender, to defend Carmelo and spoil his mid-range jumper by using his length and long arms. But i agree with some that Vlad can be used in defending K-Mart or Turiaf can do the job when he gets playing time.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad can be focused on defense when he wants to be and he can do a decent job on Melo, but his play basically hinges on whether Vlad is making his shots or not. I swear, if Vlad doesn't make at least one of his first two shots, he disappears for the rest of the game. If he does, he's a monster out there, playing D, hustling, grabbing rebounds, driving the lane, making passes, etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with vlad and odom in the lineup, they can easily switch between k-mart and melo and it shouldn't be that big of a difference

their size and versatility will be a big positive on the defensive end
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad on Melo?! He'll go off for 50 points.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forsee foul-trouble this series!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vlad on Melo..that might make me change my prediction of a sweep to a 6 game series. man10
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LakerzDQ wrote:
Shadow wrote:
Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively.


Newble can't defend him for long, Melo can easily score on smaller opponents

He only gives up 1 inch and 10 pounds. IMO he's our best option against Melo (not counting Kobe who will be on AI).
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is... Vlad can play excellent D when he's focused. We've seen that a couple of times this year. He is tall, athletic, strong. He's heavier and taller than Melo, and should be able to cover him. It's Vlad's mental focus that is a problem most of the time. If Radman comes 100% prepared, he's going to have a pretty good chance of covering Anthony - if not, he's still going to play good defense, but he'll pick 2 fouls in the first quarter.

Luke... I don't know. He is actually a good help defender, but his one-on-one D is not good at all. He is strong and tall, but doesn't have the speed or length that Radman has. Then, there's Turiaf, who could do a pretty decent job as well. I think we have enough defensive weapons we can throw out at them. Maybe Phil decides to give Ira a couple of minutes. man1
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

two0one7 wrote:
Maybe it's just me but I seem to remembering Luke doing a pretty decent job on Melo. Well, at least better than Vlad.


yea I dont think Luke gets enough credit for his defense, Luke actually played very well on Melo. I was actually in shock, but Luke actually kept melo from scoring, I dont know but I guess Luke matches up well against Melo for some reason.


Also kobe is to small for Melo, Melo will just use his strength.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sasha on AI?
kobe on melo?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL wrote:
sasha on AI?
kobe on melo?


lol

I call the oft used "PJ's mind games" card on this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why wouldn't he take melo seriously?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with JSM. Put Newble on Melo.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The matchup of Radman on Melo makes sense to me otherwise the only other option is him on Martin IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LakerzDQ wrote:
Shadow wrote:
Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively.


Newble can't defend him for long, Melo can easily score on smaller opponents


Melo is 10lbs heavier and 1 inch taller.

What's your point?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadow wrote:
Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively.
So, you are saying Phil should put in a guy that has played about 20 minutes for the Lakers all season. Vlad had some big games against Denver, Mello is not good on D and someone will have to double LO or Pau so Vlad will get some open 3s and make Mello work on D.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also Denver's biggest weakness is their defense. It makes no sense to go to a defense only roster and play scared against Melo. Avery did the same thing against GS last year and lost. Melo will get his regardless. Going to Newble is playing scared against Melo. Luke has played him well anyways.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people here just overrate Newble, im pretty sure most people on here have never even seen him or pay close attention to him before he came on board. And now some people are acting like he is 1st team all defense or something
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilkhmerkid4u wrote:
Some people here just overrate Newble, im pretty sure most people on here have never even seen him or pay close attention to him before he came on board. And now some people are acting like he is 1st team all defense or something

Newble's always been well known in this league for his defense. If anyone is more than a casual fan, they should know about this guy and what he brings to the table.

He's our second best perimeter defender right now and plays like a man possessed under the offensive glass fighting for rebounds.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Vlad wants to be effecting in guarding 'Melo, he better bathe in Jack Daniels before game time....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that would make this better is if AI tried to guard kobe too
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