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Heir
Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2279 Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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2 really bad ideas. Why risk Kobe getting foul trouble no one in the league draws as many petty touch fouls as AI he'll juke and fall down like Kobe sledged hammered him and its to the bench for Kobe. I'd do it late but not early. Have Fish and Farmar chase him around.
And Vlad will get eaten alive he needs to save the mental energy by just guarding Kmart and having Odom use his length challenging Melo's jumpers then have Luke off the bench guard him.
We're gonna have to score some points so I'd rather just get our buckets get the lead and then switch Kobe over on either Melo or AI depending on who's hot.. |
haha, then who do you suggest guard Iverson? Fish?
And apparently you didn't watch the first game we played against Denver this season when Lamar was back playing SF and Melo torched him in the first half.
Besides, it's the playoffs. Adjustments can and will be made. |
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GinoDB

Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 2597
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| im sure they will adjust, dont assume they will be on those guys the whole game , things will change game to game and wel adjust. |
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doggy dogg

Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 1271
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe it's just me but I seem to remembering Luke doing a pretty decent job on Melo. Well, at least better than Vlad. |
its not just u, i remember that as well
im sure Luke will get a turn to go at Melo. If he does well he will earn more mins _________________ "I wasn't sure I could get up for that dunk...I felt like Luke Walton" - Kobe
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Jajwa
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 2160
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| The only thing that even matters is that we destroy them on the other end (offense). We can guard everyone except Melo and Iverson very well. |
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UncLaker

Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 1034 Location: Las Vegas, NC, LA
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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i think the question is:
who will guard Laker Killer Lina Kleiza
 _________________ Mitch Kupchak,Bob McAdoo, James Worthy, Rick Fox.........
"that guy has the best NO PASS look in the game today"
"If ya dont practice Defense, You cant practice winning"
"Antawn Jamison in Purple and Gold please"
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engin

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Posts: 65 Location: Turkey
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Call me whatever but i see Kobe having a foul problem while defending Iverson. Also this might effect his offensive performance. I would rather use Vujacic on him at times or let Fisher/Farmar make Ivy play defense on them. Kobe can guard him at the fourth quarter, if necessary.
As for the Radman on Carmelo, i don't see it a good idea either. I would use Lamar, who is a very underrated defender, to defend Carmelo and spoil his mid-range jumper by using his length and long arms. But i agree with some that Vlad can be used in defending K-Mart or Turiaf can do the job when he gets playing time. _________________ Verba volant, scripta manent. |
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theinsanity

Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 902
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| Vlad can be focused on defense when he wants to be and he can do a decent job on Melo, but his play basically hinges on whether Vlad is making his shots or not. I swear, if Vlad doesn't make at least one of his first two shots, he disappears for the rest of the game. If he does, he's a monster out there, playing D, hustling, grabbing rebounds, driving the lane, making passes, etc. |
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Pig Miller
Joined: 16 Aug 2006 Posts: 1062
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:36 am Post subject: |
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with vlad and odom in the lineup, they can easily switch between k-mart and melo and it shouldn't be that big of a difference
their size and versatility will be a big positive on the defensive end |
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Enforcer

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 1812 Location: The internets
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Vlad on Melo?! He'll go off for 50 points. |
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LkrsOvrMia

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 3343 Location: "Sittin' on top of the world with my legs hanging free." -Dave Matthews
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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I forsee foul-trouble this series!
 _________________ "Why can't America realize that falling in love with Kobe doesn't mean breaking up with Michael?" Rick Reilly
Bryant, who will be representing Team USA for the first time, told Gasol: "Being that we lost this series, you (guys) have no chance at a gold medal. I ain't goin' 0 for 2, homie." |
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strikemode14 Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 15538 Location: savannah
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Vlad on Melo..that might make me change my prediction of a sweep to a 6 game series.  _________________ Strikemode14 is the greatest.
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JSM Clublakers Site Manager

Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 70472 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. |
Newble can't defend him for long, Melo can easily score on smaller opponents |
He only gives up 1 inch and 10 pounds. IMO he's our best option against Melo (not counting Kobe who will be on AI). _________________
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karacha

Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 15731
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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The thing is... Vlad can play excellent D when he's focused. We've seen that a couple of times this year. He is tall, athletic, strong. He's heavier and taller than Melo, and should be able to cover him. It's Vlad's mental focus that is a problem most of the time. If Radman comes 100% prepared, he's going to have a pretty good chance of covering Anthony - if not, he's still going to play good defense, but he'll pick 2 fouls in the first quarter.
Luke... I don't know. He is actually a good help defender, but his one-on-one D is not good at all. He is strong and tall, but doesn't have the speed or length that Radman has. Then, there's Turiaf, who could do a pretty decent job as well. I think we have enough defensive weapons we can throw out at them. Maybe Phil decides to give Ira a couple of minutes.  _________________
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davriver290

Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Posts: 2919
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:29 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe it's just me but I seem to remembering Luke doing a pretty decent job on Melo. Well, at least better than Vlad. |
yea I dont think Luke gets enough credit for his defense, Luke actually played very well on Melo. I was actually in shock, but Luke actually kept melo from scoring, I dont know but I guess Luke matches up well against Melo for some reason.
Also kobe is to small for Melo, Melo will just use his strength. _________________ There are so many emotions at the end of the season, nobody likes to talk about it. But one of them is fear, fear that you come this far and it can all end. The dream could die. But me? I like the fear, it means I'm close. It means...... I'm ready.
-Kobe Bryant and Shaquille Oneal. |
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LOL

Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 993
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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sasha on AI?
kobe on melo? |
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jOeyB7000

Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 1918 Location: L.A.
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: |
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sasha on AI?
kobe on melo? |
lol
I call the oft used "PJ's mind games" card on this one. _________________ Club Drew: Andrew Evenstar, jOeyB7000, KB_For_Prez, Jr. Kobe |
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KGB

Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Posts: 7243 Location: I hope I get there one day.
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Why wouldn't he take melo seriously? _________________
LAKER DYNASTY STARTS FEB 1 2008...
A.K.A. 8got81_24gets101
"We the best! Know that, don’t think it, know it! Its our turn! It's our championship! Our season! Lets go out here and make a statement! Its our turn now! Let's go!" |
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Enforcer

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 1812 Location: The internets
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with JSM. Put Newble on Melo. |
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LakerEricR

Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 256 Location: Santa Barbara
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| The matchup of Radman on Melo makes sense to me otherwise the only other option is him on Martin IMO. |
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Darth Bynumite

Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 2156 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Shadow wrote: |
| Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. |
Newble can't defend him for long, Melo can easily score on smaller opponents |
Melo is 10lbs heavier and 1 inch taller.
What's your point? _________________ "I'll do whatever it takes to win games, whether it's sitting on a bench waving a towel, handing a cup of water to a teammate, or hitting the game-winning shot. " - Kobe Bryant. |
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lilkhmerkid4u

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2929 Location: Chattanooga,TN
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Fisher-Carter
Kobe-AI
Odom-Melo
Turiaf-KMart
Gasol-Camby
Bench:
Farmar-Atkins
Machine-JR Smith
Walton-Kleiza
Mihm-Najera
Mbenga-Nene _________________
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pd23
Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 405
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Shadow wrote: |
| Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. |
So, you are saying Phil should put in a guy that has played about 20 minutes for the Lakers all season. Vlad had some big games against Denver, Mello is not good on D and someone will have to double LO or Pau so Vlad will get some open 3s and make Mello work on D. _________________ http://www.andrewbynum.com/andrewbynum/CMS/Gallery/ab_pg9_th.jpg |
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Senor Mortgage
Joined: 16 Feb 2008 Posts: 472
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Also Denver's biggest weakness is their defense. It makes no sense to go to a defense only roster and play scared against Melo. Avery did the same thing against GS last year and lost. Melo will get his regardless. Going to Newble is playing scared against Melo. Luke has played him well anyways. |
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lilkhmerkid4u

Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2929 Location: Chattanooga,TN
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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Some people here just overrate Newble, im pretty sure most people on here have never even seen him or pay close attention to him before he came on board. And now some people are acting like he is 1st team all defense or something _________________
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JSM Clublakers Site Manager

Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 70472 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| lilkhmerkid4u wrote: |
| Some people here just overrate Newble, im pretty sure most people on here have never even seen him or pay close attention to him before he came on board. And now some people are acting like he is 1st team all defense or something |
Newble's always been well known in this league for his defense. If anyone is more than a casual fan, they should know about this guy and what he brings to the table.
He's our second best perimeter defender right now and plays like a man possessed under the offensive glass fighting for rebounds. _________________
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gill

Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 12470 Location: Middle of Nowhere, Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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If Vlad wants to be effecting in guarding 'Melo, he better bathe in Jack Daniels before game time.... _________________ A legendary day (81 points) - Jan. 22, 2006 vs. Raptors.
And at the end of 3 quarters, the Mavs - 61, Kobe Bryant - 62 - Dec. 20, 2005
MVP! MVP! MVP! - May 7, 2008... LONG OVERDUE!
07/08 - Elite once again!
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LakersN4
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| The only thing that would make this better is if AI tried to guard kobe too |
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