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By the way...last season, the Lakers stomped the Hawks by 48 or so WITHOUT Shaq.
But, without Kobe, Shaq and the Lakers lost to the Hawks by two last year. |
what's your point ?? hawks games are nothing any more. |
Very false statement.
Since they're an Eastern team they count for 2 games out of 82 for us. Every game counts my friend.
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Hell the same things that made is laugh - Phil, Kobe/Shaq - make us cry. Everything that has a begining has an end.
Personally, I'm digging this new team. Like I said, we didn't look like a team that's been playing together for just two game prior to this game. Even though we loss, it's alot of fun to watch these guys progress.
And yeah, I'm with you real, the true fans show their face in times like these dogg.  |
I'm with you. I like the prospect of being the underdog this time around. I like the talent we have on our team, knowing full well that in 1 or 2 years time, we'll be back up there with the NBA Elite.
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You said it yourself...that you might as well stop watching them for 2 seasons. What kind of BS is that? Three games in, and you assume that they'll lose that bad? Nice. |
You did say they should be 0-3 right? And how exactly does that make you more of a fan than me?
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I'm saying if you want to call off this Laker team, who have only played 3 damn games TOTAL, then go for it...but you might as well go root for another team this year if you're going to do that. Don't pretend to be a Laker fan if you have the nerve to say that you're calling it off for a couple of years. Don't hide and come back when they win...stick with your team no matter what...because you're gonna be surprised, and then we'll all wonder who you're watching on TV this season...since you're pretty much saying they won't do good at all (worse than you expected). |
Again, YOUR definition of a fan differs from mine. I guess your idea of a fan gleefully sits there and watch defeat after defeat, hoping that one day a miracle comes and the Clippers win a championship. I am however NOT that person. I expect and demand perfection, Jerry Buss made this decision to continually compete, not be lottery bound. So if they do fail this year, there will be changes, count on it. I will not be wasting my money watching this team turn the ball over 20 times/game. But I will watch the nationally televised games, but moreso for scouting our players. Who belongs and who doesn't. This team isn't ready. If you can't figure that out after 3 games, then sit there and wait for 50 games, so that you can finally come to a conclusion that took me quicker to do so.
After watching a few summer pro league games I saw the numerous flaws in Rush's game. But I'm sure you wanted to give him time. After 2+ years, I think some have come to a conclusion that I already knew. The Lakers management agrees and have decided accordingly. Don't knock me, b/c I'm faster than you at it.
Stick with my team b/c I'll be surprised? You're right, I surely was surprised that this team with talented youngsters, the best all around player in the game managed to set Los Angeles Laker FRANCHISE records for futility in a game, getting beat by 26 to a lower tier playoff team, in assists, FG's, and FG%.
29%... my god, I was surprised by that. Can they play anyworse? I guess I should wait and see... I think I might have the pleasure of watching a 25 turnover game. |
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Karl11-Caron1
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Personally, I'm digging this new team. Like I said, we didn't look like a team that's been playing together for just two game prior to this game. Even though we loss, it's alot of fun to watch these guys progress.
And yeah, I'm with you real, the true fans show their face in times like these dogg. |
agreed i like this new team also and be a fan thru good times and bad...
| realdealbneal wrote: |
By the way...last season, the Lakers stomped the Hawks by 48 or so WITHOUT Shaq.
But, without Kobe, Shaq and the Lakers lost to the Hawks by two last year.
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yeah and i think the game we lost w/o kobe...payton had a good game too...shows how much kobe meant to the team....we'll win i dont have many doubts about it...if we lose its probably cuz 'toine got hot from the 3...thast the only possiblity i can think of for losing... |
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| btw, the boxscore on nba.com says kobe & TD got techs @ 7.9 sec left in 4th qtr...wat happened? they cool? |
When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again. |
Haha...come on Ginofan...neither one of them stopped talking trash to each other the whole time. If anyone tried to stop it, it was Kobe by walking away, but neither stopped talking. |
Yeah that's why he kept coming back? Come on now. I'm sure they are cool with each other, things just get heated in the midst of the game. The foul wasn't hard but I'm sure Kobe was getting fustrated and it just made him lash out. And when the heck is Tim Duncan ever the type of player to talk trash? The guy was smiling the whole time. |
Uh Duncan was talking just as much as Kobe. If you look at the replay Kobe walked away after tapping Duncan on the head and Duncan said something and Kobe went back at him jawing. They BOTH were talking trash so they both got Ts, I know you are a Spurs homer and Duncan could never do anything evil... |
My impression of that was Duncan was sticking up for Bowen. Kobe looked like he didn't have any problem and was finished after tapping Duncan on the head, but Duncan wasn't having it and kept staring at Kobe and probably said some things, and Kobe wasn't having that. I don't see how you can figure that situation to be Kobe's fault. |
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| btw, the boxscore on nba.com says kobe & TD got techs @ 7.9 sec left in 4th qtr...wat happened? they cool? |
When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again. |
Haha...come on Ginofan...neither one of them stopped talking trash to each other the whole time. If anyone tried to stop it, it was Kobe by walking away, but neither stopped talking. |
Yeah that's why he kept coming back? Come on now. I'm sure they are cool with each other, things just get heated in the midst of the game. The foul wasn't hard but I'm sure Kobe was getting fustrated and it just made him lash out. And when the heck is Tim Duncan ever the type of player to talk trash? The guy was smiling the whole time. |
Uh Duncan was talking just as much as Kobe. If you look at the replay Kobe walked away after tapping Duncan on the head and Duncan said something and Kobe went back at him jawing. They BOTH were talking trash so they both got Ts, I know you are a Spurs homer and Duncan could never do anything evil... |
How am I a HOMER when I just gave props to the Lakers???? And YEAH THEY WERE BOTH TALKING I saw that with my own eyes. Was Kobe the one to initiate it ? uhh YEAH is Duncan the type of guy to get up in your face about things NO Was Duncan trying to calm Kobe down YES Was Kobe too fustrated to care YES.
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Hell the same things that made is laugh - Phil, Kobe/Shaq - make us cry. Everything that has a begining has an end.
Personally, I'm digging this new team. Like I said, we didn't look like a team that's been playing together for just two game prior to this game. Even though we loss, it's alot of fun to watch these guys progress.
And yeah, I'm with you real, the true fans show their face in times like these dogg. |
I'm with you. I like the prospect of being the underdog this time around. I like the talent we have on our team, knowing full well that in 1 or 2 years time, we'll be back up there with the NBA Elite. |
Hell nobody knows what will happen with us. I mean, we need one more big man... with one key trade, who knows what can happen.
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| I'm saying if you want to call off this Laker team, who have only played 3 damn games TOTAL, then go for it...but you might as well go root for another team this year if you're going to do that. Don't pretend to be a Laker fan if you have the nerve to say that you're calling it off for a couple of years. Don't hide and come back when they win...stick with your team no matter what...because you're gonna be surprised, and then we'll all wonder who you're watching on TV this season...since you're pretty much saying they won't do good at all (worse than you expected). |
nice...thats pretty much what i thought agbout my friends @ school who dont lyk watchin us lose...its like they come out wen wen win, and hide away wen we lose...for ppl like us to defend all the hate on the lakers... |
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| Ginofan wrote: |
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| btw, the boxscore on nba.com says kobe & TD got techs @ 7.9 sec left in 4th qtr...wat happened? they cool? |
When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again. |
Haha...come on Ginofan...neither one of them stopped talking trash to each other the whole time. If anyone tried to stop it, it was Kobe by walking away, but neither stopped talking. |
Yeah that's why he kept coming back? Come on now. I'm sure they are cool with each other, things just get heated in the midst of the game. The foul wasn't hard but I'm sure Kobe was getting fustrated and it just made him lash out. And when the heck is Tim Duncan ever the type of player to talk trash? The guy was smiling the whole time. |
Uh Duncan was talking just as much as Kobe. If you look at the replay Kobe walked away after tapping Duncan on the head and Duncan said something and Kobe went back at him jawing. They BOTH were talking trash so they both got Ts, I know you are a Spurs homer and Duncan could never do anything evil... |
How am I a HOMER when I just gave props to the Lakers???? And YEAH THEY WERE BOTH TALKING I saw that with my own eyes. Was Kobe the one to initiate it ? uhh YEAH is Duncan the type of guy to get up in your face about things NO Was Duncan trying to calm Kobe down YES Was Kobe too fustrated to care YES. |
Kobe def. initiated the argument no doubt. But it looked like they were just talking. Not like getting ready to fight, Kobe just got upset.
Like I said, alot of ticky tack calls and stuff ran his frusterations tonight...
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How am I a HOMER when I just gave props to the Lakers???? And YEAH THEY WERE BOTH TALKING I saw that with my own eyes. Was Kobe the one to initiate it ? uhh YEAH is Duncan the type of guy to get up in your face about things NO Was Duncan trying to calm Kobe down YES Was Kobe too fustrated to care YES. |
hmm ij uss hope kobe and duncan can settle their disputes...they're both real good players...and eh ive always thought of kobe & duncan as cool guys to be buds w/...but w/e
i guess i want them to be cool w/ each other cuz they're gonna play on the SAME team a lot....allstar game...olympics etc... |
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Guys leave GinoFan alone she isn't trying to start anything. She's respectful so be respectful. Dissing GinoFan= 
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hmm spurs dominated paint...by 20 pts...im not too surprised about that...but lakers barely won the fastbreak battle...16-7...  so i guess the focal point of next practice shud be the D...cuz that leads to pts...easy points...fast break points... |
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Point is, if someone is already going to call off TWO seasons...then why even call yourself a fan? It's ignorant.
I brought up the Heat because if Shaq is so dearly missed, then why not go follow him if the Lakers are going to be too terrible to watch this season or the next?
I called upon the Kings just because the Kings are garbage and they are our enemies.  |
I don't care what teams you brought up I hate them all. I want to know in what book you are using for this phantom definition of fan-ship?
I know SEVERAL Laker fans that wouldn't even follow the regular season. They couldn't even name every Laker much less the rules governing trades, or insight on what management intends on doing.
And never once do I question if they are fans or not. They just don't follow the team as close. Plain and simple. I am a sore loser. If we play ball, you can bet that I will win that game, period.
So for my health's sake I won't pay for NBA League pass so I can watch Odom, Butler, and Mihm make retarded mistakes or learn how to play the game. Just me. And frankly I really don't give a rats you know what, if it doesn't fit into your prestigious criteria of fanship. I'm still a fan, whether you like it or not. I'd just rather not suffer. But you suffer lovers, be my guest. I won't give you more or less credit than the average laker fan, who still thinks Fisher is on the team. |
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Thanks Realm, much appreciated.
XxAzNJoKeRxX, I'm sure they are fine...you know how things get in the middle of a game, they've probably already forgotten about it.
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Thanks Realm, much appreciated.
XxAzNJoKeRxX, I'm sure they are fine...you know how things get in the middle of a game, they've probably already forgotten about it. |
NO. The next time Kobe and Duncan face each other... there's gonna be a brawl.  |
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"When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again."
GinoFan, I never disputed Kobe initiated it. I just think its wrong how you put the blame on Kobejust like ALL the media does for walking back. They both were equally to blame for it. END OF STORY. Duncan obviously said something to make Kobe come back, stop trying to make Duncan look like an angel sent down by god to grace us all with his good behavior. |
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Thanks Realm, much appreciated.
XxAzNJoKeRxX, I'm sure they are fine...you know how things get in the middle of a game, they've probably already forgotten about it. |
yeah i understand...just i didnt see it w/ my own eyes, so i dont really know what to believe..but i guess they're cool...doesn't seem like any of them to just get mad at something as small as this...
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Yeah, if anyone wants to flame Ginofan you're going to have to come through me... and you don't want to do that, trust me.
Ginofan, thank you for your terrific insight, you know it's much appreciated. I will make my way over to Spurs Central when I calm down hehe...
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You said it yourself...that you might as well stop watching them for 2 seasons. What kind of BS is that? Three games in, and you assume that they'll lose that bad? Nice. |
You did say they should be 0-3 right? And how exactly does that make you more of a fan than me?
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I'm saying if you want to call off this Laker team, who have only played 3 damn games TOTAL, then go for it...but you might as well go root for another team this year if you're going to do that. Don't pretend to be a Laker fan if you have the nerve to say that you're calling it off for a couple of years. Don't hide and come back when they win...stick with your team no matter what...because you're gonna be surprised, and then we'll all wonder who you're watching on TV this season...since you're pretty much saying they won't do good at all (worse than you expected). |
Again, YOUR definition of a fan differs from mine. I guess your idea of a fan gleefully sits there and watch defeat after defeat, hoping that one day a miracle comes and the Clippers win a championship. I am however NOT that person. I expect and demand perfection, Jerry Buss made this decision to continually compete, not be lottery bound. So if they do fail this year, there will be changes, count on it. I will not be wasting my money watching this team turn the ball over 20 times/game. But I will watch the nationally televised games, but moreso for scouting our players. Who belongs and who doesn't. This team isn't ready. If you can't figure that out after 3 games, then sit there and wait for 50 games, so that you can finally come to a conclusion that took me quicker to do so.
After watching a few summer pro league games I saw the numerous flaws in Rush's game. But I'm sure you wanted to give him time. After 2+ years, I think some have come to a conclusion that I already knew. The Lakers management agrees and have decided accordingly. Don't knock me, b/c I'm faster than you at it.
Stick with my team b/c I'll be surprised? You're right, I surely was surprised that this team with talented youngsters, the best all around player in the game managed to set Los Angeles Laker FRANCHISE records for futility in a game, getting beat by 26 to a lower tier playoff team, in assists, FG's, and FG%.
29%... my god, I was surprised by that. Can they play anyworse? I guess I should wait and see... I think I might have the pleasure of watching a 25 turnover game. |
I said that ON PAPER, we should be 0-3...because we should be. We've got guys that everyone else wanted to throw away (Mihm, Atkins, Jones, Brown)...and we've played three teams that we weren't supposed to beat (according to analysts). I honestly believed that we would win against the Jazz, and even predicted a win against the Spurs. You're ready to give up on the team already.
And don't sit there and tell me that you're quicker at knowing these things than me. Not a single person on this site knows exactly what's going to happen. Did you predict the Lakers to get stomped by the Pistons in 5? And you talk about Rush...I never liked Rush, and I've always said that the Lakers weren't going to keep him, and shouldn't keep him because of inconsistency and because he doesn't know if he's a PG or SG...so why bring him into this?
The fact remains that no matter what, no matter how pissed off you get or how many losses (or wins) the Lakers have, you always watch them and always cheer for them. Simple as that. |
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"When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again."
GinoFan, I never disputed Kobe initiated it. I just think its wrong how you put the blame on Kobejust like ALL the media does for walking back. They both were equally to blame for it. END OF STORY. Duncan obviously said something to make Kobe come back, stop trying to make Duncan look like an angel sent down by god to grace us all with his good behavior. |
duncan probably just said somethig like kobe calm down its ok or omsething like that...and the heat kobe had was probably thinking *(&*(#% those freakin refs and (#%$*&^@$* all ove rhis head then TD comes in his mind from the opposing team...and the competitive kobe probably took over... |
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| trying to make Duncan look like an angel sent down by god to grace us all with his good behavior. |
Remember when Duncan pushed that ref?  |
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"When Kobe got fouled in the lane he swung his elbow out and it came dangerously close to Duncan's head. They had words and it seemed fine then Kobe came back and started it up again."
GinoFan, I never disputed Kobe initiated it. I just think its wrong how you put the blame on Kobejust like ALL the media does for walking back. They both were equally to blame for it. END OF STORY. Duncan obviously said something to make Kobe come back, stop trying to make Duncan look like an angel sent down by god to grace us all with his good behavior. |
You're way off base here. I'm not trying to make Duncan out to be the second coming of Jesus or anything. The fact is that Kobe WAS fustrated, that fact is made OBVIOUS with how he was behaving throughout the game. He was more instrumental in the "talk" than Duncan. Maybe if you weren't such a Kobe HOMER then you could see it with reason.
I'm done arguing it, let's all just grow up.
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Yeah, if anyone wants to flame Ginofan you're going to have to come through me... and you don't want to do that, trust me.
Ginofan, thank you for your terrific insight, you know it's much appreciated. I will make my way over to Spurs Central when I calm down hehe...
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I have no reason to flame ginofan... on a side note, I really don't like gino's game. I can't figure out what I don't like about it. He reaches in a lot on defense, travels a lot on offense, but he sure can fly, and drive to the basket.
He made Jumaine Jones look real bad tonight. Oh, its only been three games, but I'm having a hard time seeing why Jones is clearly better than George. Frankly he isn't. He looked decent in the pre-season but so did Brian Cook. |
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It's not a big deal. Personally I don't think he was calming Kobe down at all. It looked like he had a problem what was going on between Kobe and Bowen. He was staring at Kobe even when Kobe wanted to walk away. Obviously people will see it differently.
I remember Duncan and KG used to go at it. But anyway, both Duncan and Kobe rarely get into stuff like that, so there's no arguing by whose rep is better. |
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Yeah, if anyone wants to flame Ginofan you're going to have to come through me... and you don't want to do that, trust me.
Ginofan, thank you for your terrific insight, you know it's much appreciated. I will make my way over to Spurs Central when I calm down hehe...
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I have no reason to flame ginofan... on a side note, I really don't like gino's game. I can't figure out what I don't like about it. He reaches in a lot on defense, travels a lot on offense, but he sure can fly, and drive to the basket.
He made Jumaine Jones look real bad tonight. Oh, its only been three games, but I'm having a hard time seeing why Jones is clearly better than George. Frankly he isn't. He looked decent in the pre-season but so did Brian Cook. |
Actually, leftymo...I agree with all of that. Jones isn't doing much on both sides of the ball, and I'm not understanding why Walton isn't playing instead. I don't think Walton is the answer, but he's more of one than Jumaine Jones.
And Manu is one helluva offensive player...but he reaches in alot, like you said...and tries to get away with a half step when he drives the lane. Other than that, he's quick and very explosive, and a good shooter and passer. |
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Ginofan
Clublakers Rep: Spurs
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Posts: 2369
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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 I love Lakerfans...I truly do.
On another note...
Anyone relieved that FTs won't be a problem for the Lakers anymore?
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