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Are You For It Or Against It?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Hack-a-Shaq Reply with quote

Are you for it or against it? Personally, I get disgusted hearing some of the people in the media say it's absolutely wrong for the game and they need to change it. Folks like Stephen A Smith & Doug Collins for example. My take is, as well as Mark Jackson's, is that it should be on the player to MAKE the damn free throws. That shouldn't be a problem. If the player in this case of course, Shaq, had enough PRIDE in him, he'd bust his arse, put in extra work & hours to improve, but obviously he DOESn't care enough and so it's always been his greatest weakness, and there's NOTHING wrong with exposing it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For it

Its just like intentional fouls at the end of games.

Just a strategy thats all
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's bad for the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Well, isn't that Shaq's fault, or the player's fault for not having enough pride to better themselves so that doesn't have to be the case? Shouldn't they be penalized for that? & I agree with MDI, it's all strategy baby.

Oh yeah & I always gotta' lmao at Shaq's constant comment of, "I make em' when they count." (not necessarily always the case)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Three opinions:
1. It's not banned in the rulebook so why prevent or antagonize it?
2. Who came up with the idea that this is bad because this is a wise tactic?
3. Teams have been proven to win titles with Hack-a-Shaq (please refer to our Lakers) so it's no excuse.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They already addressed the issue a few years ago. That's why you can't foul someone off the ball with under 2 minute left in the 4th quarter. I think the NBA has done enough, now the coaches / players have to do their part. There's no reason ANYBODY should shoot less than 50% from the stripe. Phil Jackson could probably shoot 50%.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, Doug Collins, Stephen A Smith, and everybody else arguing they need to change it need to STFU, except for the people on this board. mhihi
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicano wrote:
Oh yeah & I always gotta' lmao at Shaq's constant comment of, "I make em' when they count."


That's just Shaq. He cruises through the season until the important games, makes sense that he'd have a similar approach to shooting free throws in a game.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm against it. It's boring as hell to watch. I watch the league to see amazing athletes perform amazing feats. Not grown men wrapping their arms around a bigger grown man.

It displays no skill. Any stiff can go out and hug a guy. I'm not paying thousands a year to watch that.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ Qube wrote:
They already addressed the issue a few years ago. That's why you can't foul someone off the ball with under 2 minute left in the 4th quarter. I think the NBA has done enough, now the coaches / players have to do their part. There's no reason ANYBODY should shoot less than 50% from the stripe. Phil Jackson could probably shoot 50%.


I concur.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i f'in hate the spurs with a passion. Hack a Shaq is complete BS. It is horrible for the game and a p&#sy move by popovich. I definately lost respect for pop. i hope the Spurs get raped by us in the Western Conference Finals
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you always hold these views? Or did you change your mind the minute Shaq left and said mean things about Kobe?

I have no problem with hack a shaq nor flopping. They are both part of the game
Just my .02

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

always held these views. Hated it when Shaq was with us and hate it now. It prevents the game from being entertaining and should not be allowed. It is not basketball.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kobejon wrote:
It prevents the game from being entertaining and should not be allowed. It is not basketball.
well buddy, no offense, but don't you think you should be mad at shaq instead and not the people for doing it? it's on the player man, if they care enough/have enough PRIDE in themselves, they will work on it and get better. There's no excuse for that. These guys are professionals to the fullest, or at least they're supposed to be.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicano wrote:
kobejon wrote:
It prevents the game from being entertaining and should not be allowed. It is not basketball.
well buddy, no offense, but don't you think you should be mad at shaq instead and not the people for doing it? it's on the player man, if they care enough/have enough PRIDE in themselves, they will work on it and get better. There's no excuse for that. These guys are professionals to the fullest, or at least they're supposed to be.


How do you know Shaq doesn't work hard at it? Because the results aren't different? Have you ever worked hard at something and not seen positive results? I know i have.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether he does to the magnitude he should or doesn't, why feel sorry for him? If he worked his arse off to the fullest, didn't cheat himself/lie to himself, and still couldn't achieve success, then so be it, life's tough, life's not fair, it is what it is. (one of my favorite cliches..) That's his damn problem, boo hoo! man8
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hacking when allowed to use as a strategy to win a game is cowardice and stupid. It has no value in the spirit of the game. The whole notion of allowing a limited number of fouls per player is rooted in the notion of accidental contact.

But when the rule is allowed to use as an intentional strategy, a strategy that does not involving any basketball skill, then the rule should be changed. I won't like to watch cowards play. Those who likes hackashaq has no idea what a sport is supposed to be. I suggest you guys go watch soaps.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sympathy for the Diesel? Please..
I love it when players' (not on my team) weaknesses are EXPOSED. If it's not against the rules & rightfully so (shouldn't be or else more & more players might not work as hard) then there is no wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never liked the hack a shaq and I stated why before, it's just because Shaq is a 50% shooter, and that makes the hack a shaq a gamble for both sides, there is a 50% chance that shaq makes them or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hack-a-shaq is sort of like being ahead in a high school baskeball game, and milking the clock for almost the entire quarter every quarter because you have a lead. You can win that way, but it's not how the game was meant to be played.

San Antonio isn't some bubblegum gimmick team, they are the returning champs and the (2nd) best team of the decade. They should feel as if they can just beat them straight up.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satan wrote:
I'm against it. It's boring as hell to watch. I watch the league to see amazing athletes perform amazing feats. Not grown men wrapping their arms around a bigger grown man.

It displays no skill. Any stiff can go out and hug a guy. I'm not paying thousands a year to watch that.


amazing athletes also need to perform FUNDAMENTAL feats.. if player A can make freethrows... then hack-a-player-A will seize to exist..
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should the league make a rule to bail out a player's lack of skill?

Free throw shooting is a FUNDAMENTAL part of the game. Any team with players lacking in this fundamental skill SHOULD NOT be helped by the NBA to cover up their weakness.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hack - A - Shaq is fine with me. He's getting paid millions upon millions and he can't hit the gym in the summer to develop a consistent FT shot? PATHETIC.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i agree wth Chicano.....it's ridiculous.....it's like you catered to Shaq because he has a flaw in his game....that is exactly what is happening....

It would be like not allowing Double teams on quick superstar shooting gaurds because that is the only thing holding him back every game from averaging 70 points a game.

and agree with RJ....they are getting paid millions...suck it up and handle it....it's a part of the game
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

giving an opposing team FREE throws shud be a disadvantage, its Shaq's fault for not making them that it became an advantage to the Spurs
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fine. Snaq should learn how to shoot FTs. I'm for "hacking" any player who doesn't know how to shoot them. Shaq was offered a personal FT coach, he refused. He also refused to shoot them under-handed. Screw that lazy fatshaq!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's absolutely pathetic. I lost a little respect for Pop when they were doing that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enforcer wrote:
I think it's bad for the game.


You know Phil would never use it....even if he could. Too much pride and dignity. And probably a deep seated belief that if you aren't good enough to play the game the right way, you probably shouldn't deserve to win.

Pop obviously lacks that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satan wrote:
I'm against it. It's boring as hell to watch. I watch the league to see amazing athletes perform amazing feats. Not grown men wrapping their arms around a bigger grown man.

It displays no skill. Any stiff can go out and hug a guy. I'm not paying thousands a year to watch that.


I don't pay thousands but i think the same way as you do. This is the game of basketball, not tag. If you are the defending champions and you are known for your suffocating defense, you should be able to beat your opponents. Yes, every game possession is worth approximately 1 points and when Shaq makes one out of two, the Suns don't lose anything on paper. But if the things don't go as expected, then Shaq comes out and the opponents have their layup sessions in the absence of inside presence.

Well, i don't like the Spurs at all since they lack sportsmanship, and hopefully the Hornets will take care of them in the second round.
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