Ira Newble Thread (Signed for rest of season & playoffs)

jimbo327 · Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 10272 Location: Where Else?

Phase 1 complete.

Phase 2 would be to get Gerald Green in the offseason.

Azn Pinoy · Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 2092

Nice signing, better defense. When we first got Trevor Ariza, all we talked about was his defense and that any points were a bonus. He ended up scoring a decent amount of points for us too, hope that's the case with Newble.

Btw, is it just me or are we getting older? Our core players are still young, yes (Bynum, Farmar, Ariza, etc.) but overall, we used to be the 2nd youngest team next to Portland and now we are in the middle I think...

sleepin4matty · Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 874

nameant · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 16289

Any1 know when this is going down?

karacha · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 15732

About him being strictly a defensive player -

THat's for sure. If you give him, say, 12 minutes... he will probably respond with ~4 points and 2-3 rebounds.

He is a defensive player, so no one should expect Sasha-style threes, and Ariza-type dunks. That's not who he is.

See that pic with him kicking the guy in the head? Yeah... that's his game. Although he's a really, really nice guy off the court. man1

That's exactly the player we need actually. Play few minutes, take the opposing perimeter player and do everything you can to completely ruin his day. That's about it.

Funny interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSMNUAqaXOY

Man, look at his defense on Kobe here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecs0-cqDkl4

THat's some elite D, hehe... Kobe still torched him, of course.

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Vasashi17 · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

Great signing IMO. The FO has been on fire this year. Great to see.

As most have already said, this means 2 things:

1) Ariza ain't ready to go
2) Luke's ankle isn't something to just roll your eyes at. He has been slowed physically by it and we can't rely on it improving during the stretch run and what looks to be a very competitive postseason.

I admire that Luke didn't shut it down seeing how we are a very thin team right now with all the injuries. But now with Pau coming back next week and Mihm rejoining the team in practices, we have 2 7footers coming back to our front-line with another one (ie Drew) coming shortly thereafter.

You also look at our remaining schedule and its "soft" enough to incorporate a new guy and give him enough of a window to get the offense, develop team chemistry and understand his role on the team.

This essentially gives Luke the opportunity to either rest the ankle, or go diagnose it if it needs repair. Lakers are now home for 11 of the 14 remaining games and when they do travel, the remain in the pacific time zone. Luke can now address his ankle without concerns of it conflicting with our travel schedule.

Again, I honestly believe a healthy Luke wouldn't be struggling like he is this year. So I admire him gutting it out. That being said, our staff probably doesn't have faith that Luke can get healthy enough to make an impact in the ballgame. So bring in a guy that is known for helping our weaknesses: Defense on the perimeter.

I'm sorry, but Vlad isn't that guy. Great game against T-Mac, but T-Mac had played the entire game before the LA game. He was obviously slowed by it. Vlad plays the passing lanes well, but other than that, he's not a great defender at that possession. LO can guard the longer/bulkier 3s of this league, but who guards the faster/quicker ones? Newble will.
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trodgers · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:23 am Post subject:

jlkr · Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 945 Location: Los Angeles

If Ariza or Walton were healthy, we wouldn't see this signing. I think it's time for both of those guys to shut it down for the season. Thanks Walton for trying, now sit down.

The team can only have 13 players on the postseason roster. Figure Mihm is in if he shows anything, then the two out guys will be Ariza and Mbenga while Walton and Karl trade places as the 13th man.

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deal · Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 831

Ariza for sure is out for the year; Coby should follow as he is used very little.
We need DJ's 6 fools on that bench for tall teams...

bleed purple n gold · Joined: 08 Nov 2004 Posts: 2110 Location: LA to the BAY

Awesome, a defensive presense jam2

This is exactly what we need, someone to take the defensive duties off of Kobe for a while.

go Lakers!!
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leftymo · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:

He helps perimeter defense and takes Luke Walton off the court.

Thank the maker -- C3PO

Luke hurts the team in so many ways I honestly think the Lakers are playing 6-4 when he's on the court lately. Talk about getting a contract and doing nothing.

In all honesty I think he's seriously hurt and not letting on b/c Luke seems about 4 times slower than anyone out there on the court.

purplengoldjonez · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:48 am Post subject:

the only media outlet that has mentioned this is the source here. not on on espn, or nba.com etc.. I like it if it is true, but without confirmation I am not banking on it.
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LakRfAn · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:05 am Post subject:

5 bucks says he doesn't get more the 20 minutes total playing time for the rest of the season

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BLAZINLAKERFAN · Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 546 Location: LONG BEACH, CALI

So if he is signing who are they gonna let go? DJ??
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Alleyhoops · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:15 am Post subject:

This is an EXCELLENT signing.

As I previously posted, this guy was on my pre-season short list of under-the-radar personnel that I would like to have added to our roster. Tough as nails defender with a bit more skills than people give him credit for. Would not be surprised at all to see him have a home in L.A. We'll see how it works out.

He's defended 3 positions before.

Hopefully this will keep Walton off the floor so that he can rehab his chronic ankle injury for a few weeks and be stronger for the playoffs, although I've just about completely lost hope for him.

Again though, a well thought out signing by the front office. Props to Mitch.
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Vasashi17 · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:17 am Post subject:

nosebleedbum: Injury breeds lack of confidence in your physical abilities.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree here. I believe Luke is not leading on to just how much he could be ailing. And in trying to play through it, Luke's confidence has been surrendered. You can see that he is thinking way too much out there instead of just free flowing as he normally would like last season. That is most definitely confidence related....but then why the lack of confidence? That is why I think its his injury.

Again, when you have a guy like Kobe who has confidence for days, players like Luke are going to be polarized to a much harsher degree. People will look at his mindset as "weak" and I'm not refuting that his lack of confidence has made him appear weak. However, I believe he is "strong" enough to play through this injury when his team needs it the most. But now with reenforcements coming, Luke doesn't have to man it out. Lets just hope this Newble thing is true.

Blazinlakerfan: The Lakers' roster is at 14. So we can add Newble to the mix without cutting anyone, seeing how the max allotted on a roster is 15. Also, like others have said, Newble was waived before March 1st, meaning that he is eligible for making the final playoff roster, which is 12 active and 1 inactive = 13 roster spots. So who will join Karl in not making the playoff roster? With Newble coming, it just might be Ariza.
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rydjorker121 · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

As an NBA talent, I've never really liked Newble, because he doesn't have much of it, but as a glue-guy who can do the little things and play solid D, he definitely can fit this team.

Actually, looking at Newble's numbers over the course of his career, I can't help but think of another guy--Bruce Bowen--who also puts up paltry stats offensively but contributes defensively. Obviously, Newble is a notch down from Bowen in many areas--such as defensively and in shooting--but in both those categories, think of him as a poor man's Bruce Bowen. Even in build--Newble's stronger at 6'7" 220 lbs--they are similar; both aren't freak athletes, but have developed defensive reputations in the league after being undrafted (Newble came into the league and signed with Atlanta primarily as a defensive player). Newble's tough--doesn't back down, gives hard fouls--and can give us a tough guy to guard perimeter players while Ariza's gone. Obviously, he doesn't have the same sort of defensive luster Ariza has due to his lack of athleticism and the fact that he's already pretty old (32ish), but strengthwise he can match up with most perimeter guys in the league. In other words, not a lockdown defender, but a pretty good one most of the time; say three notches down from Bowen, a notch and a half down from Ariza.

Newble's offensive game is a mixed bag, but all in all pretty poor. First of all,he is solely a small forward--little to no ballhandling skills, can't create his own shot, very poor court vision, in general just lacks versatiity. His offensive game is only based on a slowly improving jumpshot, which misses more often than hits, and shots around the basket whether playing in the post or getting offensive boards. Sort of a hustle player offensively--has some range, but doesn't have a respectable enough shot, and doesn't take enough shots oftentimes to even warrant guarding him. That all said, he can hit threes surprisingly at times--seems like he developed that at Cleveland. Don't expect him to score much with us even with our high-octane offense; he's probably in there to give us a tough guy, primarily for defensive purposes while Ariza is out. He was best early in his career--his first two years in Atlanta--now he's just a glue guy, an insurance guy. But one that our team might need at this stage.
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deal · Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 831

Luke is a good player off the bench usually; he is going through a rough patch probably injured. He's a Tri facilitator at the end of the day.

Newbale will be autility guy to help stop the Melo's and Bron's of the world; won't stop them but will help. Don't see Newble being more than a piece for the Play Off run than anything else while Ariza can get healthy for next season.

He fills a need today, don't think there anything else here...

sugi942 · Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Posts: 225 Location: SoCal

At least we're getting a "dirty work, enforcer" type player. I want him in there to play really hard nosed defense.

OCLakersFan247 · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:35 am Post subject:

i want ira newble to kick baron davis in the face
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