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Jason Kidd traded to the Mavs (details on p. 50)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSM wrote:
^ Fazekas got cut.

man9


uh oh.

man10

so it's

dirk
foul prone dampier
filler malik

who has to contain, gasol, bynum, odom on the boards.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Losing Diop will hurt them. He was younger/quicker than Dampier, and their only reliable backup 5.

Don't see how this trade makes them all that better. Definitely still looking up at Lakers, Suns, Spurs.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slimjim wrote:
JSM wrote:
^ Fazekas got cut.

man9


uh oh.

man10

so it's

dirk
foul prone dampier
filler malik

who has to contain, gasol, bynum, odom on the boards.

Kidd man10 man10 man10
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NBATV is hosting a press conference for the Kidd trade in 10 minutes.


I'll have a recap.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESPN will also have live coverage of the press conference in a few minutes.

Also reported on ESPN, Kidd will wear number 2 (?) and will be in the lineup tomorrow for Dallas.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is better deal then they would have gotten before. They get to keep Stackhouse, if I'm not mistaken.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mavericks still lack an inside presence which means Bynum will dominate like no other.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what happens when Dampier gets his 3rd foul before halftime like he usually does?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote





Cuban

- Had the opportunity to get Jason and now was the time.
- Jason makes the ball fluid.
- Laughs that Kidd guarded Dirk during the ASG.
- Didn't want to change much but remain opportunistic.
- Informed Dirk about what was going on.
- Dirk had an input in the trade.


Avery Johnson

- Feels that they can win a championship with the 3 additions to the team.
- Kidd is their quarterback, feels that they can get touchdowns.
- Malik was considered as a throw in as a joke.
- Inches them closer, competition is fierce, they ain't afraid.
- Avery is excited.
- Wants Kidd to remain himself.
- Kidd's skill can help us get it done and close out some series.
- We're not gonna lean on him but he's gonna aid us.
- Kidd knows how to win, look at his career, refers to National Team.
- He can do many things.
- Always in evaluating mode and always looking at team.
- Spent alot of time discussing their team.
- Laughed about J.J Barea and Kidd competition, there is no comp.


Kidd

- Happy that the deal is done and happy to be back in Dallas.
- Thanked Mark Cuban, and wants to win a championship.
- Excited to be back for the 2nd time, older but he's gonna play hard.
- Wants to have fun.
- Thanked KJ, and the old Phoenix Suns. Learned alot from those veterans.
- Not an individual game, but a team game.
- Wants Dirk to be himself then work along and make each other better.
- In addition, make the team better and stay healthy.
- Wants to win the championship, no guarantees though.
- Refers back to the 2 trips to the Finals.
- Dallas has their eyes on the prize.
- Talked about jersey numbers.
- #2 because it's second time in Dallas and turned it around it could look like a 5.
- Talked about Barea and wants to develop and teach him.
- Compared the Nets from past seasons and current Mavs roster.
- They were deep and many players were in double-figures.
- It was an emotional roller coaster, it could be a TV show.
- Happy that it's all said and done.
- Loves the challenge, life has many challenges and looks forward to it.
- You win as a team and lose as a team.


Malik

- Likes the opportunities and excited to play for a contender
- Great teammates and wants to play in Dallas.

Antoine

- Happy to be back in Texas.
- Wants to play for a winning team and happy to be still with Kidd.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run for PJ Brown or package Terry and Stackhouse for a decent big.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pound4pound1 wrote:
So what happens when Dampier gets his 3rd foul before halftime like he usually does?

Dirk at C.

man10
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSM wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:
So what happens when Dampier gets his 3rd foul before halftime like he usually does?

Dirk at C.

man10




Oh boy…all they’ve done is made sure that another series with the Warriors will go 7 games
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSM wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:
So what happens when Dampier gets his 3rd foul before halftime like he usually does?

Dirk at C.

man10


They have open roster spots. I'm sure they'll pick up some big guy off the waiver.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

two0one7 wrote:
JSM wrote:
pound4pound1 wrote:
So what happens when Dampier gets his 3rd foul before halftime like he usually does?

Dirk at C.

man10


They have open roster spots. I'm sure they'll pick up some big guy off the waiver.



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kidd is a good acquisition and I love the guy, but there frontcourt is still soft. Kidd isn't going to defend Amare, Duncan, Bynum, or Gasol. Losing Diop will hurt big time because he was their best defensive prescence down there, in terms of shot-blocking ability. I doubt they make another move, so we'll have to see how this team does the rest of the year.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This makes them better right now and right now only. They're gonna miss Diop a little, and in the future I think they miss Harris, but for right now I think Kidd makes them better. It's a gamble overall though, not as big as the Shaq gamble because Kidd is a tripple double guy, but still a gamble because if it doesn't work you traded away a future good player in Harris. Overall they didn't give up much talent though, so pretty good deal.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might work out for Dallas but they made it easier on us for any future matchups:

- No more Devin Harris
- Soft front court
- Go ahead and give J Kidd some open looks with his 36% FG shooting this year.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weezy wrote:
Overall they didn't give up much talent though, so pretty good deal.


It's certainly a better deal than the previous one due to keeping Stackhouse, and getting Antoine Wright in the deal shouldn't be overlooked either. I love that pick-up.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poooky wrote:
FabFourLakers wrote:
i hate how they get to KEEP stackhouse in the new deal...devean george might have saved the Mavs....i wonder if he'll still get booed....


Regarding the 1st deal, he was coming back to Dallas anyway.

Oh well... at least that little pest from DAL is gone now. He's the only guy I fear whenever we play them.


Josh Howard isn't scary? man3
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Massacre wrote:
Weezy wrote:
Overall they didn't give up much talent though, so pretty good deal.


It's certainly a better deal than the previous one due to keeping Stackhouse, and getting Antoine Wright in the deal shouldn't be overlooked either. I love that pick-up.


Stackhouse was gonna come back anyway (until he opened his big mouth). That separate deal for Wright was also mentioned when the first deal broke news.

I guess the only other positive we can look at is they get to keep Devean George! mhihi
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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getting Antoine Wright in the deal shouldn't be overlooked either. I love that pick-up.

Yeah but with JT, Josh, Stack, and EJ I don't think he'll get much playing time. There is Gump to consider too, but I don't think he'll ever see the court again.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSM wrote:
Massacre wrote:
getting Antoine Wright in the deal shouldn't be overlooked either. I love that pick-up.

Yeah but with JT, Josh, Stack, and EJ I don't think he'll get much playing time. There is Gump to consider too, but I don't think he'll ever see the court again.


It sounds like they could make another deal, possibly for a defensive center.
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Psychobroker wrote:
Poooky wrote:
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i hate how they get to KEEP stackhouse in the new deal...devean george might have saved the Mavs....i wonder if he'll still get booed....


Regarding the 1st deal, he was coming back to Dallas anyway.

Oh well... at least that little pest from DAL is gone now. He's the only guy I fear whenever we play them.


Josh Howard isn't scary? man3


Nah...

I'm more scared with Harris' nonstop penetration.
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At Laaaassst man10
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JSM wrote:
Massacre wrote:
getting Antoine Wright in the deal shouldn't be overlooked either. I love that pick-up.

Yeah but with JT, Josh, Stack, and EJ I don't think he'll get much playing time. There is Gump to consider too, but I don't think he'll ever see the court again.


True. In spite of losing Harris, getting a skilled young player with potential in return is a bargain. You still face the possibilty of Jones & Stackhouse missing time due to injuries (both have been out for periods of time this year) and having someone younger with fresher legs who can knock down perimeter baskets and D up can help down the road.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imo, they now have a scary starting lineup and the 2nd unit backcourt , but the front court is... disagree


Dampier/ malik allen
Dirk/ juwan howard
Josh Howard/ devean george
Eddie Jones/ jerry stackhouse
Kidd/ jason terry.

on paper they are still very very good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yong wrote:
imo, they now have a scary starting lineup and the 2nd unit backcourt , but the front court is... disagree


Dampier/ malik allen
Dirk/ juwan howard
Josh Howard/ devean george
Eddie Jones/ jerry stackhouse
Kidd/ jason terry.

on paper they are still very very good.


Brandon Bass man1
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Johnny wrote:
yong wrote:
imo, they now have a scary starting lineup and the 2nd unit backcourt , but the front court is... disagree


Dampier/ malik allen
Dirk/ juwan howard
Josh Howard/ devean george
Eddie Jones/ jerry stackhouse
Kidd/ jason terry.

on paper they are still very very good.


Brandon Bass man1
ya, dont kno y ppl are hating on their frontcourt, bass is a very good player...
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LaLaKeRz4LiFe wrote:
Lord Johnny wrote:
yong wrote:
imo, they now have a scary starting lineup and the 2nd unit backcourt , but the front court is... disagree


Dampier/ malik allen
Dirk/ juwan howard
Josh Howard/ devean george
Eddie Jones/ jerry stackhouse
Kidd/ jason terry.

on paper they are still very very good.


Brandon Bass man1
ya, dont kno y ppl are hating on their frontcourt, bass is a very good player...


i haven't seen him play before.... but he's only 6'8.

trading harris messes with their going small gameplan...
trading diop messes with their going big gameplan...

they gave up alot of versatility for kidd.

I personally feel what they needed was sam cassell... not kidd at such a high price.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Their frontcourt is beyond pathetic... Dirk is a jumpshooting 7'0 PF... starting C is freaking Dampier... man10
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