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Am I missing something?
Farmar is the deal breaker with some of you guys, for Jason freakin Kidd? 
Not dealing a big like Drew for an aging PG makes sense.
But not dealing a guard like Jordan for an aging, yet durable and still one of the top PGs in the league makes zero sense.
I love Farmar's game and I love how he has developed. He's a ball player and there is no doubt about that.
But let's think this through:
Kidd's D exceeds Farmar's and its not even close.
Can you say best rebounding team in the L?
Can you say best assisting team in the L?
2nd chance points for the opposition go right out the door, cause once that ball comes off the rim, we secure the defensive boards at nearly every position.
Remember that with Kidd, less ball dribbling by Kobe. With Kobe being exclusively a striker in the offense through pick and pops and Kidd setting him up, Kobe can now put alot more energy into shut down D from the perimeter. Remember Team USA Kobe? Yeah, he would be back.
Not only do you see pick n rolls with Kobe and Drew, but now you see them with Kidd and anybody.
Alot of folks are concerned about our front-line situation after a Kidd deal. We already have DJ and remember that Webb is still sitting there looking for work. Could it be, that he wants to see how this Kidd thing turns out before he makes his choice? Also we can call Lasme up from the D-League.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....Kidd or bust! |
KIDD OR BUST! 
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lol@not trading Farmar as the deal breaker for Kidd.
We would still have Critt, and would add automatic assists, rebounding, and defense to our back court. Sorry, but you gotta be kidding me.
Farmar/Kwame/Vlad should get it done. |
They won't do because of Vlad's contract face it we don't have enough. |
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| Hate to say this but theres a certain team thats looking for a veteran PG. Boston Celtics anyone? I hope they dont get Kidd because you could hand them the championship if he does go there. |
Even if that happens they still won't win because the West will kill them. |
Perkins
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Allen
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I dont know about you but that team can match up and beat any team in the west.
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lol@not trading Farmar as the deal breaker for Kidd.
We would still have Critt, and would add automatic assists, rebounding, and defense to our back court. Sorry, but you gotta be kidding me.
Farmar/Kwame/Vlad should get it done. |
They won't do because of Vlad's contract face it we don't have enough. |
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We don't need an upgrade at point...why does nobody understand that? We need a forward, a quality forward...
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If Boston gets Kidd, I will protest. That's a crock of shi-tzuki, you can't have a team with 4 freaking all stars. They're already cheaters as is. I wouldn't be surprised if they got Kidd, then had Bird hand them Jermaine O'Neal for Perkins and a 2 round pick.
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| Hate to say this but theres a certain team thats looking for a veteran PG. Boston Celtics anyone? I hope they dont get Kidd because you could hand them the championship if he does go there. |
Even if that happens they still won't win because the West will kill them. |
Perkins
Garnett
Pierce
Allen
Kidd
I dont know about you but that team can match up and beat any team in the west. |
Expect the postseason version of the Spurs. |
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| If Boston gets Kidd, I will protest. That's a crock of [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.], you can't have a team with 4 freaking all stars. They're already cheaters as is. I wouldn't be surprised if they got Kidd, then had Bird hand them Jermaine O'Neal for Perkins and a 2 round pick. |
I dont think Boston will get Kidd. They dont have the pieces, not to mention the Nets wouldnt want to trade with an eastern rival and make them stronger while they get weaker. The only way Boston can get Kidd is if he gets buy-out by the Nets and take a pay cut to join the Celtics, but I dont see that happening. Remember that Boston got stronger by dealing and trading with Wester Conference teams (Sonics & T-Wolves). The rest was via free agency.
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| Kidd changes the whole dynamic for this team. He is a big guard that Phil loves. He makes his teammates better. he got Kenyon Martin a max contract he made Mikki Moore a serviceable big man just think of what he can do with Bynum. |
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West made the most logical offer with Kwame, Odom, and Farmar for Kidd and Collins.
Anything other than that does not make sense for the Nets. |
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
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| If Boston gets Kidd, I will protest. That's a crock of [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.], you can't have a team with 4 freaking all stars. They're already cheaters as is. I wouldn't be surprised if they got Kidd, then had Bird hand them Jermaine O'Neal for Perkins and a 2 round pick. |
I dont think Boston will get Kidd. They dont have the pieces, not to mention the Nets wouldnt want to trade with an eastern rival and make them stronger while they get weaker. The only way Boston can get Kidd is if he gets buy-out by the Nets and take a pay cut to join the Celtics, but I dont see that happening. |
I hope not, that would be my worst nightmare...of course the past couple seasons have been nighmarish enough (Miami's phony title, LeBrooms final appearance). I'm going to be sick to my stomach if the Celtics add another Championship in their rafters.
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| We all know that this won't happen so why even ask. |
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
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It's right next to Manhatten Beach, you can't miss it. 
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
*pulls up mapquest and gets directions to El Segundo* |
Are you going to factor in salary or no?
Any deal without Odom involves Vlad which the Nets won't even commit. Odom, whether you want to admit it, has to be involved. |
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I agree with Vash on this one.
Farmar is great, but acquiring Kidd means we're trying to win this thing NOW.
He's the player that could push us over the top. Plus bring in Webber to shore up the front court, and we....are...GOLDEN! |
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
*pulls up mapquest and gets directions to El Segundo* |
Well he did, and I will never forgive him for that. |
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
*pulls up mapquest and gets directions to El Segundo* |
Are you going to factor in salary or no?
Any deal without Odom involves Vlad which the Nets won't even commit. Odom, whether you want to admit it, has to be involved. |
I personally have no problem whatsoever with including Odom in that deal. |
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Am I missing something?
Farmar is the deal breaker with some of you guys, for Jason freakin Kidd?
Not dealing a big like Drew for an aging PG makes sense.
But not dealing a guard like Jordan for an aging, yet durable and still one of the top PGs in the league makes zero sense.
I love Farmar's game and I love how he has developed. He's a ball player and there is no doubt about that.
But let's think this through:
Kidd's D exceeds Farmar's and its not even close.
Can you say best rebounding team in the L?
Can you say best assisting team in the L?
2nd chance points for the opposition go right out the door, cause once that ball comes off the rim, we secure the defensive boards at nearly every position.
Remember that with Kidd, less ball dribbling by Kobe. With Kobe being exclusively a striker in the offense through pick and pops and Kidd setting him up, Kobe can now put alot more energy into shut down D from the perimeter. Remember Team USA Kobe? Yeah, he would be back.
Not only do you see pick n rolls with Kobe and Drew, but now you see them with Kidd and anybody.
Alot of folks are concerned about our front-line situation after a Kidd deal. We already have DJ and remember that Webb is still sitting there looking for work. Could it be, that he wants to see how this Kidd thing turns out before he makes his choice? Also we can call Lasme up from the D-League.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....Kidd or bust! |
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
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Knowing Thorn, he'd probably would ask for all that. As for Shaq taking the Heat to the brink of the finals, I'd give him credit for that, but not for winning them a title. He wasnt dominating or putting up impressive numbers, he actually averaged career lows through the entire playoffs and finals. Sure he had an impact, but not an impact that would say "Wow, we certainly got the best of this trade".
I like Kidd, sure he could make a difference to this team, but im looking for the future, if we give up all of young projects just to get one championship in return then I say no. Like you said Kidd is a special player but he's not Shaq, so imagine that, if Shaq could only 'lead' a team to 1 championship, then lets his team be mediocre (in a weak easter conference) for the rest of the few years left in his contract, while leaving them with nothing , what makes you think Kidd is going to make that much of a difference in this tougher conference after a year or two? |
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| Hate to say this but theres a certain team thats looking for a veteran PG. Boston Celtics anyone? I hope they dont get Kidd because you could hand them the championship if he does go there. |
Even if that happens they still won't win because the West will kill them. |
Perkins
Garnett
Pierce
Allen
Kidd
I dont know about you but that team can match up and beat any team in the west. |
There is absolutely NO WAY you would ever see that line up. Kidd's salary is so large($19+mil) that the Celts would have to give up one of the big three, most likely Allen, to make salaries match within 25% of Kidd's salary(25% OF $19,728,000 is $14,796,000). The next highest paid player after the big three is Perkins at $4.48mil, so to get Kidd without giving up KG, Allen or Pierce, theoretically the Celts would have to give up their whole bench for this trade to go down. However, I highly doubt that Thorn accepts a package headlined by Perkins, Posey, or Brian freaking Scalabrine for the future hall of famer Jason Kidd.
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
*pulls up mapquest and gets directions to El Segundo* |
Are you going to factor in salary or no?
Any deal without Odom involves Vlad which the Nets won't even commit. Odom, whether you want to admit it, has to be involved. |
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West made the most logical offer with Kwame, Odom, and Farmar for Kidd and Collins.
Anything other than that does not make sense for the Nets. |
Last season, we tried to dump expirings (Luke, Mihm, Smush and Kwame's 2 year deal) to get this done. Of course they wanted both Drew and LO..and we laughed. Then they just wanted Drew along with our expirings and we denied the deal. It remained at a stalemate till the deadline and then all of a sudden Thorn says that he was demanding LO and Drew all along and there would be no deal.
Thorn toyed with us last year. Buss even said that he would add multiple draft picks and add cash to get that Kidd deal done.
So using this same format, there is no way LA offers up both their starting center and 4 at the moment. It will be Kwame, Vlad (parlayed to get another expiring K...my suggestion is to Miami for J-Will), possibly Sasha, Critt or Farmar and draft picks.
If they don't take it, then we wait till summer.
I'm sure LA feels that Kidd-Kobe-LO-Drew is a bonafide championship team.
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West made the most logical offer with Kwame, Odom, and Farmar for Kidd and Collins.
Anything other than that does not make sense for the Nets. |
Scary when others agree with me... but is there really a better offer anywhere for Kidd? I don't see NJ getting TMac, I don't see BOS offering one of their big 3, JO is off the table and injured.
Farmar plugs into Kidd's spot, LO can thrive in the east and the 4, Kwame can start or come off the bench and expires.
Farmar
Carter
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Boone?
That is actually a pretty good lineup!
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| Vasashi I see were your coming from. I wouldnt mind giving up Farmar for Kidd, but no way in hell would I give up Farmar, J-Critt, Turiaf & Kwame for Kidd. Thats just giving up too much for someone that would probably only get us one championship, something that we wouldnt want to do, Miami did it for Shaq, and look at the results. One championship, then mediocracy hit big time. |
I don't think they are asking for that much. Plus when we traded Shaq, he was the most dominant big in the league. Hate on Shaq all you want NOW, but when we traded him, he took the Heat to the brink of the Finals in year 1 and in year 2 helped earn them the title.
Kidd is a special player...but he's no Shaq. And Thorn shouldn't demand a "shaq-like" package.
I think its Farmar or Critt along with expiring Ks and future picks that could get this done.....and if that is the case, Mitch has to pull....and if he doesn't, I WILL!
*pulls up mapquest and gets directions to El Segundo* |
Are you going to factor in salary or no?
Any deal without Odom involves Vlad which the Nets won't even commit. Odom, whether you want to admit it, has to be involved. |
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West made the most logical offer with Kwame, Odom, and Farmar for Kidd and Collins.
Anything other than that does not make sense for the Nets. |
Last season, we tried to dump expirings (Luke, Mihm, Smush and Kwame's 2 year deal) to get this done. Of course they wanted both Drew and LO..and we laughed. Then they just wanted Drew along with our expirings and we denied the deal. It remained at a stalemate till the deadline and then all of a sudden Thorn says that he was demanding LO and Drew all along and there would be no deal.
Thorn toyed with us last year. Buss even said that he would add multiple draft picks and add cash to get that Kidd deal done.
So using this same format, there is no way LA offers up both their starting center and 4 at the moment. It will be Kwame, Vlad (parlayed to get another expiring K...my suggestion is to Miami for J-Will), possibly Sasha, Critt or Farmar and draft picks.
If they don't take it, then we wait till summer.
I'm sure LA feels that Kidd-Kobe-LO-Drew is a bonafide championship team. |
The thing is that I don't trust Thron he's just going to try again to rip us off. |
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Am I missing something?
Farmar is the deal breaker with some of you guys, for Jason freakin Kidd?
Not dealing a big like Drew for an aging PG makes sense.
But not dealing a guard like Jordan for an aging, yet durable and still one of the top PGs in the league makes zero sense.
I love Farmar's game and I love how he has developed. He's a ball player and there is no doubt about that.
But let's think this through:
Kidd's D exceeds Farmar's and its not even close.
Can you say best rebounding team in the L?
Can you say best assisting team in the L?
2nd chance points for the opposition go right out the door, cause once that ball comes off the rim, we secure the defensive boards at nearly every position.
Remember that with Kidd, less ball dribbling by Kobe. With Kobe being exclusively a striker in the offense through pick and pops and Kidd setting him up, Kobe can now put alot more energy into shut down D from the perimeter. Remember Team USA Kobe? Yeah, he would be back.
Not only do you see pick n rolls with Kobe and Drew, but now you see them with Kidd and anybody.
Alot of folks are concerned about our front-line situation after a Kidd deal. We already have DJ and remember that Webb is still sitting there looking for work. Could it be, that he wants to see how this Kidd thing turns out before he makes his choice? Also we can call Lasme up from the D-League.
I've said it before and I'll say it again....Kidd or bust! |
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Chick-n-Stew
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| Hate to say this but theres a certain team thats looking for a veteran PG. Boston Celtics anyone? I hope they dont get Kidd because you could hand them the championship if he does go there. |
Even if that happens they still won't win because the West will kill them. |
Aren't they 15 -0 against the west ?
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Larry14r
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West made the most logical offer with Kwame, Odom, and Farmar for Kidd and Collins.
Anything other than that does not make sense for the Nets. |
Scary when others agree with me... but is there really a better offer anywhere for Kidd? I don't see NJ getting TMac, I don't see BOS offering one of their big 3, JO is off the table and injured.
Farmar plugs into Kidd's spot, LO can thrive in the east and the 4, Kwame can start or come off the bench and expires.
Farmar
Carter
Jefferson
LO
Boone?
That is actually a pretty good lineup! |
I don't care I whouldn't help them win in the future either so screw you Thorn. |
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Vasashi17
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Snoots: Then we pass. We are most likely playoff bound. Now that can't be said with certainty for Thorn and his squad. It looks like Kidd is truly disgruntled there now and has gone in reserve mode....saving up juice, so that he can explode if he gets his wish and gets dealt to a contender.
If Thorn is going to press to gut our team for Kidd, then we pass. Sorry Kidd, we tried, but your suited friend with the goofy smirk is trying to one-up us and that ain't happening when we know that Ariza and Drew are both coming back with one month to go till the playoffs. Our schedule will be far more easier at that time and we will peak into the playoffs. Meanwhile, we will let Thorn continue to take his dreams of getting a lottery pick for Kidd right into the offseason. There is a good possibility that Thorn will get his lottery pick even without trading Kidd.
It sucks for Kidd, but we won't gut our team for Thorn. So either take a deal that gives you immediate cap relief, future draft picks and a young guard with tons of potential or no deal.
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| What would you guys say if Thorn came to us and asked for both LO AND Farmar + throw ins to make the deal? IMO, that would be just too much to give up both of them. Now, if it was either of them plus expirings, then I'd do it. Something like LO/Mihm/Sasha/Pick for JKidd, or Farmar/Kwame/Vlad/Sasha/Pick for JKidd/Malik Allen. |
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