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BB

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 785 Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| You got to love green screens, right? lol. If you play around by pausing the video, you can see obviously that it's fake. Pause it when Kobe is jumping over the car and when the car enters the frame. My question is... Where's the driver? |
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Basketball Fan
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Great marketing. It is fake. As others have stated 100 times, Lakers could rip up his contract for this. He isn't going to endanger his professional career for a car jump.
I love the creativity and the idea. It's getting a lot of buzz. They showed it on TNT tonight. I'm sure it will be talked about on all the afternoon ESPN shows. And they'll probably show it during the Sunday ABC game. |
Well it will probably wait till next week. PTI/ATH are bumped till Monday because of the Masters. |
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khmrP

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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I saw a driver in the car...but I'm thinking the car was digitized in their, 2 shots combined together, Kobe jumping then another shot where the car is driving in on the same lot combine it together and walla.... but that was pretty sick though funny how they added Ronny, they couldn't have choosen a better hypeman for it
btw....anybody know where I can buy that wind breaker suit Kobe has on, I really like the sweater...thx
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Savory Griddles

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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That was real. End of discussion. _________________
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BB

Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 785 Location: Bucharest, Romania
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| Savory Griddles wrote: |
| That was real. End of discussion. |
LMAO! End of discussion. |
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Lakerman JSJ Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 28 Apr 2005 Posts: 9832
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Savory Griddles wrote: |
| That was real. End of discussion. |
Beautiful, we have confirmation.  _________________
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halekulani

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Vito Andolini

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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fake.
if that was real you would have read some article of the Lakers asking Kobe to be more careful or make better decisions or something.
looked chopped up when he jumped. It's Nike promoting their shoe. |
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flexxdzl

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LO7cK35

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:25 am Post subject: |
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he was not next to the car at all, look at kobe's left foot before the car gets there it is on the shadow of the street light, then as the car is passing by look where the front right tire is, it hits the same spot on the shadow of the streetlight.
is it real, probably not and if it is suspend kobe or fine him 1million dollars for trying that stupid [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] (yet very nice to watch) however h was definetly NOT next to the car |
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Lakers Showtime24-7

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I didn't watch the video or read the first post. Who's Aston Martin? Is he that backup point guard on the Timberwolves or the Rockets? _________________ I want to buy an authentic, white, #8 Kobe jersey in size 48 or 50. Please message me if you can help. |
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TheGoat

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 898 Location: whispering orders into Kupchak's ear "Do it Mitch!"
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: |
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B.S. If Kobe could actually do that, the players he guards wouldn't blow by him as much. I give him props for trying to pass it off, but the vid is blatant B.S/KB24 propaganda. _________________ "After slamming in an alley-oop as the Suns center(Amare Stoudemire) clung helplessly to his arm, Bynum hopped around like he was on a pogo stick, grinning and nodding in a 'Who’s the man-child now?' sort of way" -Chris Broussard of espn.
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MDI

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakers Showtime24-7 wrote: |
| I didn't watch the video or read the first post. Who's Aston Martin? Is he that backup point guard on the Timberwolves or the Rockets? |
That is Darrick Martin...he was a backup of the T-wolves back in like 04 lol...he's with the Raptors
Ashton Martin is a vroom vroom vrooom _________________ MDI's Mamacitas
1) Marisa Miller
2) Jessica Burciaga
3) Leeann Tweeden
4) Galilea Montijo
5) Bianca Gascoigne
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7) Torrie Wilson
8) Sophia Bush
9) Nicole Peterson
10) Alena Seradova |
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TheGoat

Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 898 Location: whispering orders into Kupchak's ear "Do it Mitch!"
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakers Showtime24-7 wrote: |
| I didn't watch the video or read the first post. Who's Aston Martin? Is he that backup point guard on the Timberwolves or the Rockets? |
A very High class vehicle. I think its British(maybe German) .No offense, but have you been anywhere or seen anything(James Bond's cars) ,dude? _________________ "After slamming in an alley-oop as the Suns center(Amare Stoudemire) clung helplessly to his arm, Bynum hopped around like he was on a pogo stick, grinning and nodding in a 'Who’s the man-child now?' sort of way" -Chris Broussard of espn.
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blocks

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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ahah! oh okay guys...we can stop debating whether this was real or not now. _________________
under pressure, you either bust pipes or make diamonds |
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flipmeister

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| TheGoat wrote: |
| Lakers Showtime24-7 wrote: |
| I didn't watch the video or read the first post. Who's Aston Martin? Is he that backup point guard on the Timberwolves or the Rockets? |
A very High class vehicle. I think its British(maybe German) .No offense, but have you been anywhere or seen anything(James Bond's cars) ,dude? |
Its British _________________ GO LAKERS!!!!!!! |
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lakerfan2

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scheven

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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epak

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Loose Cannons says that Kobe isn't in line with the car. Since it's a side shot, Kobe is actually towards the left or right of the car. Makes sense. _________________ Jerry West:
"You give the same amount of shots to everybody else and they're not making that many, I know it. Players are jealous of greatness. Kobe is a unique talent and a unique person." (after Kobe's 81 points) |
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halekulani

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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two0one7

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 7929 Location: Laker Land
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| TheGoat wrote: |
| Lakers Showtime24-7 wrote: |
| I didn't watch the video or read the first post. Who's Aston Martin? Is he that backup point guard on the Timberwolves or the Rockets? |
A very High class vehicle. I think its British(maybe German) .No offense, but have you been anywhere or seen anything(James Bond's cars) ,dude? |
Its' an Aston Martin V8 Vantage drop top. And yes, it's British. _________________
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kobejon

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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The Car is digitized. There is a reason why Turiaf isn't in the picture when Kobe jumps over the car. He would ruin the CG if he was in it _________________ A.T.G.R.O.O |
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Kobe's Empire

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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The duplicated layer needs to be arranged appropriately in the Layers or TImeline Pallete so that the mask can work correctly....because you are putting it on top of the car. The masked car goes over the light post, so you need to have the duplicated Layers of the background and shadow above car speeding by.
From there on you distort it to how you think would be appropriate from how the car is going. You can also add an effect and make sure it doesn't change too much or else it would look weird.
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This the part I'm interested in. Does the person have to manually distort the shadow to the car? Or does Adobe figure out the topography automatically? Or is it a bit of both? I'm talking about Kobe's shadow, not the light post. |
no adobe doesn't do anything, you have to do it all on your own. when you arrange it and place it on top, it looks decent, but doesn't give you the characters of what a shadow would do if something goes over it....so yes you have to manually adjust it as it fights.....
in this case, they planned it out so they don't have to do much because barely any shadows intersect with each other.
Basically, this commercial is ridiculously easy to have made. I have come to the conclusion that they were both shot on the same day within maybe 5 mins of each other. Then both clips had the same lighting angle and exposure adn everything, while the camera was on one spot and one spot only....
if tripods or stands didn't exist, then this commercial would have been impossible to do.
They needed to film very close to each other time wise to get the same angle shadows and lighting and everything. This whole thing is a mask of where kobe jumps, but it is in the same exact spot in the background, so all you see moving is kobe...therefore the mask around kobe does not have to be THAT tight. |
Well, in that case, than it looks like it could be fake. That is if 1 person could do it in Adobe. |
no doubt...multimedia and video and editing and all that is about technique and planning...which way would look the best....sometimes it is the easiest, sometimes it is the hardest....but there are multiple ways you can go about doing anything in multimedia.
i can do this with the greatest of easy if you gave me the footage.
the hardest part would be to actually get up out of bed and drive somewhere to go film. period. _________________ Can't mess with a squad that got screwed out of 1 game in the finals and was 2 games away (technically should have been 1 game away) from an NBA title THAT ADDS THIS in 08-09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efsJwJxYEk
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Weezy

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are still debating whether this is real or not? It's fake, you can see his shadow on the SIDE of the car as it goes by. If the car is even there he jumps way to the side of it and it's a camera trick.
And LMAO Kobe actually just got hate on Jim Rome is Burning for this. Kobe's the only athlete that could get hate for a fun and funny ad. It wasn't Rome, it was that woman that takes his place sometimes, I don't know her name. She said that Kobe is in the MVP race and he should concentrate on that, not being Johnny Knoxville because now kids are trying to copy what Kobe did and getting hurt. Kobe's a terrible role model.  _________________ Weezy's Weemens
Jessica Biel, Monica Bellucci, Josie Maran, Mila Kunis, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Camilla Belle, Reon Kadena, Rachel Bilson, Jaime King, Olivia Munn |
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| It's definitely fake. Lakers would never agree to this and no insurance is going to cover that. But it's still very well done. And no, he didn't jump on the side of the car as the car clearly goes over the same shadow spot on the ground. It is just movie magic. |
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Kob3eight Resident Monkey

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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KCAL 9 - Inside Edition
Was just reported on Inside Edition.
It is fake.
March 31st the day before April Fools day.
Just mentions Kobe commented "It's Hollywood Baby". |
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flexxdzl

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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What's really funny real or not..is that the spent alot of money on those genius commercials but a garbage one shot with a home cam is getting all the buzz..
btw ..these aren't ven the K3's..lol |
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The Maverick Australia's Lakers Rep

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerman JSJ Clublakers Moderator

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Shhhh everyone! I could be wrong, but I think halekulani is trying to tell us something. _________________
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two0one7

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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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You guys are still debating whether this is real or not? It's fake, you can see his shadow on the SIDE of the car as it goes by. If the car is even there he jumps way to the side of it and it's a camera trick.
And LMAO Kobe actually just got hate on Jim Rome is Burning for this. Kobe's the only athlete that could get hate for a fun and funny ad. It wasn't Rome, it was that woman that takes his place sometimes, I don't know her name. She said that Kobe is in the MVP race and he should concentrate on that, not being Johnny Knoxville because now kids are trying to copy what Kobe did and getting hurt. Kobe's a terrible role model.  |
Sigh. That really doesn't surprise me. _________________
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