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TheNotoriousBANG
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 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:52 am Post subject: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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Wow am i the only one exited about this frontcourt
For real, the athletic bodies of these two just amaze me
In the beginning of the season Bynum was BALLIN!!!!
And in Wash Kwame had 2 games where he had 30 and 10 back to back in his 2nd season.
Look it up
Get the old sports pages 2 nights back to back 30 and 10.
While you guys are  about offseason i am 
Kwame and Bynum have too much potentiol among them
Kwame will finally play a full season, he's been playin hurt all along.
Bynum is finally 20. He was too young all along
LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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Wow am i the only one exited about this frontcourt
For real, the athletic bodies of these two just amaze me
In the beginning of the season Bynum was BALLIN!!!!
And in Wash Kwame had 2 games where he had 30 and 10 back to back in his 2nd season.
Look it up
Get the old sports pages 2 nights back to back 30 and 10.
While you guys are about offseason i am
Kwame and Bynum have too much potentiol among them
Kwame will finally play a full season, he's been playin hurt all along.
Bynum is finally 20. He was too young all along
LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! |
Thats funny...cause I don't really feel that excited about Benoit Bynum and Kwame Bowe.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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| And in Wash Kwame had 2 games where he had 30 and 10 back to back in his 2nd season. |
And Charlie V had a 50 point game his rookie season. Is he the next Jordan?
Kwame IS a bust. He's good defensively, and that's pretty much it. I hate to say it, but it's true.
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TheNotoriousBANG
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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| TheNotoriousBANG wrote: |
Wow am i the only one exited about this frontcourt
For real, the athletic bodies of these two just amaze me
In the beginning of the season Bynum was BALLIN!!!!
And in Wash Kwame had 2 games where he had 30 and 10 back to back in his 2nd season.
Look it up
Get the old sports pages 2 nights back to back 30 and 10.
While you guys are about offseason i am
Kwame and Bynum have too much potentiol among them
Kwame will finally play a full season, he's been playin hurt all along.
Bynum is finally 20. He was too young all along
LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! |
Thats funny...cause I don't really feel that excited about Benoit Bynum and Kwame Bowe. |
It's Kwame Brown and Andrew Bynum
You must not follow the lakers that much then |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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Thats funny...cause I don't really feel that excited about Benoit Bynum and Kwame Bowe. |
thats who they remind me of exactly |
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TheNotoriousBANG
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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| And in Wash Kwame had 2 games where he had 30 and 10 back to back in his 2nd season. |
And Charlie V had a 50 point game his rookie season. Is he the next Jordan?
Kwame IS a bust. He's good defensively, and that's pretty much it. I hate to say it, but it's true. |
Kwame averaged 11 and 7 he never played a full healthy season so long
I talked to one of Kwame's homies and he gave me the lowdown, Kwame has always been hurt and played through it like a warrior. He worked on defense despite the pain and all he got in return was boo;s
This is the 1st season he's READY. HEALTHY
If he can drop 8ppg HURT
He'll drop 15 healthy EASILY |
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Actions speak louder than words. Talk to us when he actually does it, don't talk to us about how he's going to do it. Kwame's so inconsistent and unpredictable.
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I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has.
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| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation.
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| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY.
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| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY. |
Bingo. And then people wonder why we don't want go gut 2/3 of it (Bynum and Kwame) for a PF.
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| Lakerman JSJ wrote: |
| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY. |
Bingo. And then people wonder why we don't want go gut 2/3 of it (Bynum and Kwame) for a PF. |
If that PF was Jermaine O'Neal I'd do it everyday & twice on Sundays if it meant hanging onto Lamar. Too bad Bird would rather keep his non-playoff team together going nowhere than make a reasonable trade. 
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My problem with kwame is thnat at some point he let his beuatiful jumpshot he had in early washington die. it was a nice ten foot jumper. the dude had nice hands early in his carreer. he has bulked up way too much, and that has been his biggest problem.
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I'm excited about Bynum next year, but I'm not excited about Kwame, why should I be? Has Kwame improved from year to year since he's been here? No. Has he worked on develping a shot or any low post game, working on his touch? No. So why should I be excited about a stone hands, no touch, basicaly useless on offense Center. Sure he's a good man defender, but he's lost a lot of other times on D and when he has a bad game, he has a BAD game. Take the Emeka Okafor dunk-fest last year as an example. The guy is what he is and I can't wait until his contract expires, unless Mitch is dumb enough to give him another $9mil contract after that.
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| Lakerman JSJ wrote: |
| JuanyO wrote: |
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| JuanyO wrote: |
| Lakerman JSJ wrote: |
| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY. |
Bingo. And then people wonder why we don't want go gut 2/3 of it (Bynum and Kwame) for a PF. |
If that PF was Jermaine O'Neal I'd do it everyday & twice on Sundays if it meant hanging onto Lamar. Too bad Bird would rather keep his non-playoff team together going nowhere than make a reasonable trade. |
Well obviously, but that was never the case. I'd trade the entire team to have a threesome of KB-LO-JO. Bird, 
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| I'm excited about Bynum next year, but I'm not excited about Kwame, why should I be? Has Kwame improved from year to year since he's been here? No. Has he worked on develping a shot or any low post game, working on his touch? No. So why should I be excited about a stone hands, no touch, basicaly useless on offense Center. Sure he's a good man defender, but he's lost a lot of other times on D and when he has a bad game, he has a BAD game. Take the Emeka Okafor dunk-fest last year as an example. The guy is what he is and I can't wait until his contract expires, unless Mitch is dumb enough to give him another $9mil contract after that. |
Mitch isn't dumb enough to give him another big contract, but he is dumb enough to not get Kwame in a trade NOW so that we don't get NOTHING in return for him next offseason when he walks.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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Kwame has always been hurt and played through it like a warrior. He worked on defense despite the pain and all he got in return was boo;s
This is the 1st season he's READY. HEALTHY
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Did I miss something? I was under the impression Kwame wouldn't start the season healthy due to his surgeries. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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Kwame has always been hurt and played through it like a warrior. He worked on defense despite the pain and all he got in return was boo;s
This is the 1st season he's READY. HEALTHY
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Did I miss something? I was under the impression Kwame wouldn't start the season healthy due to his surgeries. |
nah, haven't you heard? kwame's superman, he's just been injured the past 5 years
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| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY. |
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| I honestly can't wait for Bynum to shut a lot of people up. It really isn't a stretch to see him at or near 15 & 10 per game this season if he's working on his game like people close to the situation are saying he has. |
Completely agree. I'm excited to see how Bynum has developed, I really think he'll surprise us all next season. Bring in Kwame for defensive purposes from the bench, along with Mihm, and you've got a pretty damn solid C rotation. |
Easily one of the best center rotations in the league. EASILY. |
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one of the best center rotations, when all 3 guys have underachieved since entering the league with the total combined avgs of 7.1 ppg and 5.2 rbg while being picked 1st, 7th and 10th in there drafts. we went from hof players wilt, kareem, shaq and a decent divac at 11.8 ppg and 8.2 rpg, to this. |
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I hate to put this out there but our center rotation won't be very good for the first couple of months...
Kwame - still rehabbing from surgery.
Mihm - still not 100% after missing almost a year and a half.
So this will be another year where Bynum will have to shine brightly for the first month or so. After him, the next "C" we field would be Turiaf...very foul prone but a good warrior off the bench.
Isn't LO coming off a surgery also?
So the dream of Kwame and Bynum together at the beginning of the season is just that - a dream.
And JO? Yeah, I'd move some big pieces to. An LO/JO/KB team would be great, provided we had a legit C to start with... |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Kwame/Bynum Frontcourt |
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| Kwame will finally play a full season, he's been playin hurt all along. |
I hate to be the bearer of bad news on Kwame as of late.
I hope he can finally play a full season. But, until someone with inside knowledge says otherwise, I'm assuming Kwame might miss half the season if not more than that.
Kwame Brown will be sidelined several months
Mihm had reconstructive ankle surgery in November. He was just cleared to run full speed in May. And recent reports have shown him to still be working his way back, hoping to be ready by training camp.
When he was still with the team, Devean George had reconstructive ankle surgery in July of 2004. He played his first game that season at the end of March 2005.
It's great to be optimistic about Kwame. But, we can't ignore what could be the reality. |
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That's almost right. He'll drop around 8 to 15 points per game. But that's nothing to brag about. Kobe/LO/Luke or whoever passes him the ball will lose that much in assists . Kwame is bizaro the hands of steel part... lug for brains. |
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| too bad. they still bynum and kwame. i dont see them beating amare, duncan anytime soon. hey they might be pretty decent,but i am looking at the championship + they are no where near to compete at that level |
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Brown cannot play PF. He was a bust playing next to Mihm. He played his best at C. No range at all at the 4. Bynum and Brown cannot play together. That leaves undersized Lamar Odom at PF. Not a very good mix of players and too many tweeners:
Lamar PF or SF?
Brown C or PF?
Luke undersized PF plays SF
Cook oversized SF plays PF
Vlad - is he oversized SF or soft PF? We do know he is too large to play SG.
Evans - Undersized SF or bulky SG?
Sasha - 1/2 - doesn't matter he sucks anyways
Teams can usually work around one tweener (AI at SG so they had Eric Snow at PG who could guard 2 guards for example) but once you have a bunch you have too many mismatches and unfortunately it usually impacts the defensive side.
Put down the pipe... |
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Brown cannot play PF. He was a bust playing next to Mihm. He played his best at C. No range at all at the 4. Bynum and Brown cannot play together. That leaves undersized Lamar Odom at PF. Not a very good mix of players and too many tweeners:
Lamar PF or SF?
Brown C or PF?
Luke undersized PF plays SF
Cook oversized SF plays PF
Vlad - is he oversized SF or soft PF? We do know he is too large to play SG.
Evans - Undersized SF or bulky SG?
Sasha - 1/2 - doesn't matter he sucks anyways
Teams can usually work around one tweener (AI at SG so they had Eric Snow at PG who could guard 2 guards for example) but once you have a bunch you have too many mismatches and unfortunately it usually impacts the defensive side.
Put down the pipe... |
Well put. At first glance all those tweeners looks like versatility, but upon further examination it just reminds of the line from Spinal Tap:
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| The only problem with that is that Kwame doesn't like to play PF even though he's capable of defending PF's. If both of them are on the court, then Kwame must accept that he won't be involved in the offense. |
I think Kwame likes to play wherever he has the most success. The summer we brought him in here they asked him about playing forward or center and he said he preferred power forward, but would play wherever we needed him. He struggled as our power forward, didn't know the offense and isn't comfortable with his own jump shot. So he movees to the center to close the center when Mihm goes down and has a lot of success. So they ask him that summer which he prefers, and he says that he prefers to play center. In the end I think Kwame had his most success at the 4 in Washington and at the 5 in the triangle. He just wants to succeed. I thought the Lakers did well in one game when they played the Kwame and Bynum at the 4/5 during our injury riddled period. I would have liked to see us experiment more with it, but without a healthy Mihm it wasn't an option. |
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