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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| KB8@CL wrote: |
| VerbalMilk wrote: |
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| GuRu wrote: |
Is thread about how we shouldnt give up caron to get KG?
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Does that mean you would give up Caron :man7:
Caron is Paul Pirece in the making and a future all-star. You can´t trade him for an aging loser like KG. He has done nothing in the league for his team and only cares about personal accolades. Caron has GREAT chemistry with Kobe and we know Kobe love him. Trade Lamar for someone but Butler is UNTOUCHABLE. Thats obvious and Kobe oops the GM won´t let anyone to trade Caron.  |
How old are you? |
The first one to get caught in the trap of my sarcasm
I was tricking more than obvious How could you  |
This place is filled with little kids and people that don't know what they're talking about so posts like that happen every 13 seconds LOL!...saracasm is an acquired talent and especially after they know who you are. |
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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One thing thats failed to be mentioned about kg is his desire to win. he's been the man in minny and it got him out the 1st round once. the guy is hungry, and i think he would do whatever is neccessary to win at this point. it can't be about the $ w/ him anymore. he'll be content coming to KOBE'S TEAM, and working with him to win championships. now the only way it gets done if we eat the contracts of wally, hudson, and who knows who else, candyman? they got contracts to dump, but getting kg, if possible, must be done. dude is as motivated as there is in the nba.
sorry if my posting skills are not up to par, i just eat, breathe, and live lakers. |
Welcome to the fold, bro. |
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maddprophet

Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 150 Location: Hotlanta, GA.
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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gracias milk _________________ Spark the ism, my expertism, is lyricism, my flow will take you over, like I was hypnotism..so where's the lighter.... |
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LOUIE04

Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 158 Location: Born & Raised in LA/ Stationed in Miramar!
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: i got another question foya!! |
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now yes many of u think that KG is the best choice but dont u guys think that hes getting old?!? I mean he will probably end up retiring from frustration!! maybe we should consider Boozer!!!  |
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stigmaXXL

Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 206
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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in all honesty i can see coron being a nice 18ppg guy. hes closer to pippen and micheal than lamar. lamar hasa fatter contract for kg to balance...
felton
kobe
caron
kg
mihm.
i dunno if this would work capwise...
but sickk.... |
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farhan810

Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 600 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: i got another question foya!! |
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| LOUIE04 wrote: |
now yes many of u think that KG is the best choice but dont u guys think that hes getting old?!? I mean he will probably end up retiring from frustration!! maybe we should consider Boozer!!!  |
I think his frustration is the only chance he'll end up on another team. As for him getting old, I know his numbers are about the same as he has had for the last two seasons. Besides, he's also only 2 years older than Kobe Bryant so it can't be too bad.
As for him actually coming to the Lakers, hell will freeze over first. |
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crucifido Clublakers Analyst

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 4686 Location: Costa Mesa, California
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Is thread about how we shouldnt give up caron to get KG?
wow.... |
LOL - that's what I thought too Guru.
If it were to happen (all "pipe dream" and "never happen" stuff aside), giving up anything to pair Kobe with Garnett would be fine with me. _________________ "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill |
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Raposao

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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Ah? Caron you guys really want to give a average player 5 to 7 mil a year?
His rookie contract is up by the end of this new season, we need to trade him for a good pick on this years draft |
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stigmaXXL

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| caron is worth 5-7 for sure. |
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Raposao

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| And you think that is good to forget about the FAs of 2007? Our cap will be smaller :( |
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crucifido Clublakers Analyst

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Once Amare signs his extension with the Suns (and it is bound to happen) Yao will be the only impact free agent available for the Lakers.
The chances of him coming here are gettiung slimmer with every stride they make in Houston (which lately have been big). If everything lined up prefectly and the basketball gods smiled on the Lakers, there would be NO WAY to turn down a proposed deal to bring Garnett here.
There's just too many positives about it if it were to ever happen. _________________ "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill |
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Once Amare signs his extension with the Suns (and it is bound to happen) Yao will be the only impact free agent available for the Lakers.
The chances of him coming here are gettiung slimmer with every stride they make in Houston (which lately have been big). If everything lined up prefectly and the basketball gods smiled on the Lakers, there would be NO WAY to turn down a proposed deal to bring Garnett here.
There's just too many positives about it if it were to ever happen. |
Yao would be a waste of money. Period. Yao = No heart. No heart = No titles. |
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crucifido Clublakers Analyst

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just saying tyhat out of the free agenmts in that year, Yao would be the only one I believe the Lakers would consider bringing on board.
That being said, Yao is still really young. And in regards to the NBA game, even younger. Give him 2 more seasons and he'll be where he needs to be physically. Mentally though, I have yet to see that necessary fire for a championship caliber player. _________________ "A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." - Winston Churchill |
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JSM Clublakers Site Manager

Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 64583 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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the only chance we had at getting Yao, left the second Rudy T stepped down. _________________
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DMK Clublakers Analyst

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Unless Yao gets a mean streak and some more upper body weight....forget about it. _________________
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eNlight

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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just saying tyhat out of the free agenmts in that year, Yao would be the only one I believe the Lakers would consider bringing on board.
That being said, Yao is still really young. And in regards to the NBA game, even younger. Give him 2 more seasons and he'll be where he needs to be physically. Mentally though, I have yet to see that necessary fire for a championship caliber player. |
since im from a chinese family, and being only 15, my mom reads the chinese newspapers all the time. yao ming is like a major topic, and that Yao coming to LA wouldn't be that hard. He likes the asian culture in LA, and he'll feel right at home. Houston is kind of weird for him, and he didn't really like it when everyone started leaving like mo taylor, tyronne l, etc. Yao coming to LA isn't impossible. |
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KB24@CL Clublakers Moderator

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| eNlight wrote: |
| crucifido wrote: |
Just saying tyhat out of the free agenmts in that year, Yao would be the only one I believe the Lakers would consider bringing on board.
That being said, Yao is still really young. And in regards to the NBA game, even younger. Give him 2 more seasons and he'll be where he needs to be physically. Mentally though, I have yet to see that necessary fire for a championship caliber player. |
since im from a chinese family, and being only 15, my mom reads the chinese newspapers all the time. yao ming is like a major topic, and that Yao coming to LA wouldn't be that hard. He likes the asian culture in LA, and he'll feel right at home. Houston is kind of weird for him, and he didn't really like it when everyone started leaving like mo taylor, tyronne l, etc. Yao coming to LA isn't impossible. |
I hope the Lakers are not interested in Yao. He is far away from being worth a maximum contract. Yao is one of the most overrated all-stars. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:48 am Post subject: no yao |
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yao is a good player, but he's not the kind of players that will bring back to LA the glory that had brought kobe and shaq and the show timers. he's just to weak. _________________
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eNlight

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| i agree, i wouldn't want Yao in LA. he has a horrible attitude to his work ethics. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| i agree, i wouldn't want Yao in LA. he has a horrible attitude to his work ethics. |
I don't see this? Give some examples. He doesn't train? He doesn't work on his games? How do you justify his lack of work ethics. |
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DMK Clublakers Analyst

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yao is too nice....  _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| i though u guys knew yao is a trash talker |
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| "YAO TAKE CHARGE"""""!!!!!!! |
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DMK Clublakers Analyst

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yea, yao has all the street lingo down too...
"Fo shizzle" - yao-ser Ming _________________
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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If we wanna c this team become a true dynasty we need to have two players who r arguably the best in the league.
Yao could develop into a better all-star but he's never gonna b one of the best.
meaning: KOBE + KG=DYNASTY
"nuff said" |
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eNlight

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| Yao states that he is the best in asian history. he thinks that he is the greatest, and states that he will always be worse than shaq. plus, two years into the league, whats up wtih his muscle mass. that upper portion of his body is like what, i bet Kobe can bench more than him |
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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That said, let's not be ridiculous and say KG is the most skilled big man of all time - he's FAAAAARRR from that. His post game is woefully inadequate and he has a long way to go to learn dominate footwork in the paint. His back to the basket game also needs more versatility to it, as right now he just uses basic moves (but since he's SO long, those moves are unstoppable). Tim Duncan is far more "skilled" than KG. However, KG brings so much versatility - he can rebound, dish, dribble, shoot - that it makes him ferocious out there.
A pairing of Kobe and KG is championships caliber and, therefore, worth far more than Lamar and Caron (and that's that I LOVE those 2 guys).
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Well, let's look at it: Name a big man with ALL these skills and or better than the skills KG has:
Name a better ball handling Big Man than KG?
Name a better scoring Big Man than KG? (Meaning not just be able to shoot, but be able to get to the rim)
Name a better rebounding Big Man than KG?
Name a better passing Big Man than KG?
Name a better defending Big Man than KG?
Name a better shotblocking Big Man than KG?
Name a Big Man with better footwork than KG?
Name a quicker Big Man than KG?
Name a Big Man that averaged 20pts/10rebs/5assts for 7 straight years like KG did?
Now, after you've done ALL of that, if you've actually come up with better Big Men than KG in any of those categories, how many of them have ALL of those attributes like KG? No one.
Duncan is the most fundamentally sound Big Man of all time, but overall skills (Ball handling, scoring, rebounding, defense, passing, athleticism) no one matches up with KG. Dude is a freak and he revolutionized the PF spot: Big Men with guard-like skills and adeptness.
You can talk about his post game all you want...if that's the biggest knock skill-wise on him, he's STILL ahead of the rest of the Big Men in the other categories. |
Amare is quicker than KG and a MUCH better scorer.
Ben is a better defender
There are better defenders than KG and there are quicker guys than KG and even shot blocking guys and scorers but KG is a combination of everything on a high level. |
You prove the point with this comment. You're naming different players to acknowledge different skill sets. KG does ALL of that. The others do not. |
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Lakerfan36

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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: NO GARNETT TRADE!! |
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HEY GUYS: HEY CHECK IT OUT THAT GARNETT TRADE WILL NOT BE GOOD FOR US AT ALL UNLESS WE'RE GETTING RID OF SUCKY,GERORGE,OR DIVAC THAT WOULD BE AN OKAY TRADE BUT WHY GIVE AWAY A PLAYER LIKE CARON WHO IS JUST DEVELOPING AND GETTING USED TO PLAYING WITH KOBE A GOOD TEACHER!! CARON SHOULD STAY!! THE GARNETT TRADE WOULD BE ASKING FOR TOOOOOO MUCH NOT EVEN THAT SHAQ TRADE ASKED FOR TOO MUCH!! GARNETT TRADE ALSO INVOLVES #1 RND. DRAFT PICK NO THANX WE NEED THAT TO GET A PG(FELTON) OR C (PETRO I THINK!? )! |
if we had 3 caron butlers on the lakers id trade them all and LO for KG...
id do anything to get KG and Kobe on the same team...thats automatic 3 peat  _________________
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| DMK wrote: |
Yea, yao has all the street lingo down too...
"Fo shizzle" - yao-ser Ming |
Yea, Yao, he's fugazzi...... |
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Dime Dropper

Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 74 Location: Reppin' the Eastside
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see why this team needs anymore superstars. It's been proven in the past, we as Laker hopefuls, it should have been already revealed to us. What is not so evident, but should be very apparent is that this team needs to focus on the more important aspects of the game; although talent is a major point, it is not what this team needs right now. They have all the talent in the world. With the re-aquisition of Phil Jackson, this team has a chance to redeem themselves by showing that winning means the co-existance of large egos. We've dealt with this in the past, then we've won championships... |
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