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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Nothing to see here, move along....... move along...... Reply with quote

Sources told ESPN's Peter Gammons that the former A's pitcher has agreed to a seven-year contract from the Giants. The $126 million deal averages approximately $18 million per season. Zito will be formally introduced by the Giants this afternoon.

The deal, agreed to late Wednesday night, includes an $18 million option for 2014 that could increase the value to $144 million, an unidentified source told The Associated Press.

Gammons reports that Zito picked the Giants over the Rangers, Mets, Yankees and Mariners. In additon, sources told Gammons that the Yankees never made a formal offer.

Zito is 102-63 in 222 career starts, including a 16-10 mark with a 3.83 ERA in 34 starts this year before becoming a free agent.



Zito / Cain / Lowry / Sanchez / Lippcum / Morris...... bow jam2 bow jam2
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

disagree disagree I thought Barry would want to win. Oh well, money talks.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dodgers can have Schmidt... mhihi

That rotation will be sick if everyone stays healthy.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you rather have Schmidt at $11 million per year or Zito at $18 million?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Giants Sign Barry Zito

UPDATE: Peter Gammons is reporting that the Giants have signed Zito for seven years and approximately $126MM. The deal is said to include an $18MM option for 2014. The Yankees did not make a formal offer. San Francisco's rotation now looks like this:

Matt Cain
Barry Zito
Noah Lowry
Matt Morris
Jonathan Sanchez

UPDATE: T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com reports that the Rangers have been told Zito has rejected their six-year, $80MM offer. A source told Sullivan that the Rangers expect Zito to sign with San Francisco.


The Yankees talked to the Giants about Randy Johnson, but Brian Sabean was not interested. Word is that Johnson is not old enough for San Francisco. man10
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M4ss4cr3 247 wrote:
The Yankees talked to the Giants about Randy Johnson, but Brian Sabean was not interested. Word is that Johnson is not old enough for San Francisco. man10



Good one. Although we are old, our pitchers are all young (minus Morris).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3:16 - You dont think that, 7 years 126 million is too much?

I mean, thats Santana type money. Your guys could have got Matsuzaka for less money than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice signing but thats a bit much for zito man11
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bumrusherer wrote:
3:16 - You dont think that, 7 years 126 million is too much?

I mean, thats Santana type money. Your guys could have got Matsuzaka for less money than that.



I think it's a lot, but when compared to the contracts signed by Schmidt, Suppan, and all the Chicago sCrUBS signings this year, it's comparative.

Matsuzaka might be good, but Zito is proven in this league. He's also as durable as they come (never missed a start in his career). Has a Cy Young, low ERA in the AL, which means it should drop in the NL, and he'll be pitching half his games in pitcher friendly SF.

SF off-season has been horrible up until this morning. The fan base needed this! The GM needed this! I'm excited. He was the prize FA this off-season.

Also, this might mean Bonds doesn't get his contract (nothing has been signed yet). I really hope they don't sign him to that rich contract. That's a MUCH worse contract then the Zito one.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nelo Ice wrote:
nice signing but thats a bit much for zito man11

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats alot fo money for Zito , damit now the Giants have an ace bang . ITs alright, DOdgers are still winning the NL West mhihi
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jellyroll49 wrote:
Nelo Ice wrote:
nice signing but thats a bit much for zito man11


It's not like there is a salary cap. Who cares how much he was signed for. The signing is significant, the contract is not important as far as I'm concerned.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over paid for Zito. BUt its good for you guys, Barry Zito and Barroids teaming up, that is unless Bonds doesnt get indicted mhihi
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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damit now the Giants have an ace bang .



Don't forget 13 game winner Matt Cain. Had a 7 game stretch when he was clearly the best pitcher in the league last year.......... as a rookie.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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damit now the Giants have an ace bang .



Don't forget 13 game winner Matt Cain. Had a 7 game stretch when he was clearly the best pitcher in the league last year.......... as a rookie.


Something around five 1 hitters, too. man9
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow...possibly the worst signing of this offseason.

There's no way in HELL Zito will live up to that ridiclous contract. Zito's an overrated pitcher that's riding his reputation from his days with the "Big 3." I mean, 1.40 WHIP during the regular season and a 12+ ERA in round 2 of the postseason = 7 years, $127 million?

OK, I'll cut you Giant fans some slack - I mean, you did grossly overpay for someone who's going to be nothing more than a solid #3 pitcher in a few years, but hey, your team doesn't have any other holes to fill, right?

The only guys that benefited from this signing are Boras and Zito (and the Mets, Mariners, and every other team in the running for Zito that avoided forking over ridiculous amounts of money for him).

Enjoy the excitement while it lasts, because it won't be long before you're calling for Sabean's head for overpaying Zito.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John3:16 wrote:
bumrusherer wrote:
3:16 - You dont think that, 7 years 126 million is too much?

I mean, thats Santana type money. Your guys could have got Matsuzaka for less money than that.



I think it's a lot, but when compared to the contracts signed by Schmidt.


Give me a break. That contract given to him was just a three-year deal.

But yeah, the Giants do have a solid rotation.
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^^^^^^^^^^ You must be a Dodgers fan.

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Yup, since birth, baby.

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Yup, since birth, baby.


damn I had no idea you posted here too. You keep showing up on all my favorite sites! LGK, DB, and now here man9

back to topic - I'm not sure which signing was dumber...the Bonds signing or the Zito signing. Actually, it has to be the Zito signing. The Giants' brass really have no clue what they're doing
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Check out my ( not me ) new Barry Zito Giants projection over at RotoAuthority.com.

The new ZiPS projection for Zito calls for a 4.00 ERA and 1.35 WHIP in 216 innings.

Haven't seen Zito's PECOTA quote yet but I'm sure it's forthcoming.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever since Kevin Brown, I've shied away from pitchers + enormous contracts. I'm sure Zito will tear up the NL for a bit, but for 7 years when the Giants have tons of holes to fill? I don't know...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thats a huge boost. they are now a playoff team for sure IMO.
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well thats a huge boost. they are now a playoff team for sure IMO.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zito has the most starts in the majors since the begining of the 2000 season. Dude rarely gets hurt. Give this guy some run support and he'll get 17-20 wins. This still doesn't solve their bullpen and closer problems.
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well thats a huge boost. they are now a playoff team for sure IMO.


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well thats a huge boost. they are now a playoff team for sure IMO.

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why do some laugh? they are not world series contender but do you really think they cant make the playoffs? they certainly have the personell and if they can stay away from injuries and deep slumps, they can sure make the playoffs.
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why do some laugh? they are not world series contender but do you really think they cant make the playoffs? they certainly have the personell and if they can stay away from injuries and deep slumps, they can sure make the playoffs.
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