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Weezy
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right.  I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. 
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| why did Kobe have to make the shot that difficult? |
Because the Lakers have NO end of game plays. NONE. They run that same damn stupid stack and Kobe has to go out to half court to get it, and usually we don't even get it in. |
while I agree with what you said, what I was referring to is the fact that Kobe had to take an impossible fade away shot.
I don't mean to sound negative. I'm not. I love Kobe and he played good tonight. I'm just saying why does he have to take the most difficult shot? |
Time was running out, it he could have tried to penetrate and draw a foul but they weren't getting many calls tonight plus there was only around 4 seconds left. I'd rather him take that shot than anyone else in the league.
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This is where Lebron has the edge over Kobe. Lebron has won multiple games the last 2 seasons in the closing seconds.
I cant remember a game where Kobe has hit a last 2nd shot. Its been years |
You must not remember Bron in the playoffs last year.
He would panic in the air trying to find someone to take the last shot for him. He was playing hot potato in late game situations in the playoffs. |
Actually in situations like this Lebron blows by the defender and finishes with a layup
I have never seen a player win so many games on layups as Lebron does. He did it (twice) to the Wizards in the playoffs 2 years ago and he has done it multiple times since. 5 seconds left and he flat out blows by the defense and ends it with a layup. Ball Game
Kobe's last 2nd shots are predictable. He's either doing a pull up 20 footer or dribble and pump fake, pumk fake, and shoot a 20 footer. |
Which one against the Wizards? The one where he traveled or the one where he charged?
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Creed Bratton
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We just lost a game and all some people aren't disappointed. Infact, all they can do is say that Lebron is better than Kobe.
WTF cares!!!! Lebron could be 100X better than Kobe and we win our games....... thats all I care about. How ridiculous can some people be.
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Let's not make this a Kobe vs. Bron thread.
Bron didn't play tonight and has nothing to do with this game. |
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whens the last time lebrons got doubled on a final shot all of the layups hes hit for final shots have been virtually uncontested against single coverage. |
Washington is the last time that he got a double sent at him.
The doubles don't really matter when you're like 300lbs and you have a head of steam.
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WTF!!
I hate when Lakers lose to "bad" teams, if you lose, at least lose to a good team. :)
In fairness, I guess Lakers match up poorly with Kings these days. They can't show up in the last 12 min and expect to win, hopefully they will remember this loss, since they play Kings twice more this season.
Oh well, maybe this loss will remind Lakers to stay alert at all times, not just when they meet the top teams. |
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That ruined by weekend.
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Kobe wasn't Kobe in the 4th tonight. I strongly hate when he gets the ball beyond the 3 point line with little time to operate. I would have preferred going to Pau in that situation, but it is what it is. Can't win every game, and we were just begging for a loss tonight.
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| Kobe should be ashamed of himself. He played like complete garbage in that 4th quarter, his body language was like he didn't give a damn. |
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right. I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. |
Glad there's still sensible people around here.
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well lebron actually gets the ball going towards the basket while kobe seems to get the ball going away from the basket.
whens the last time lebrons got doubled on a final shot all of the layups hes hit for final shots have been virtually uncontested against single coverage. |
pretty much.. plus, while the refs swallow the whistle for most guys/teams at the end, they WANT to call it for LeBron.. sometimes even really bad ones. |
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This is where Lebron has the edge over Kobe. Lebron has won multiple games the last 2 seasons in the closing seconds.
I cant remember a game where Kobe has hit a last 2nd shot. Its been years |
You must not remember Bron in the playoffs last year.
He would panic in the air trying to find someone to take the last shot for him. He was playing hot potato in late game situations in the playoffs. |
Actually in situations like this Lebron blows by the defender and finishes with a layup
I have never seen a player win so many games on layups as Lebron does. He did it (twice) to the Wizards in the playoffs 2 years ago and he has done it multiple times since. 5 seconds left and he flat out blows by the defense and ends it with a layup. Ball Game
Kobe's last 2nd shots are predictable. He's either doing a pull up 20 footer or dribble and pump fake, pumk fake, and shoot a 20 footer. |
you do realize noone gives a rats A$$ about what you say
at least when L4L defends lebron we know hes not a kobe hater and hes just giving his opinion
you are just an idiot that noone wants to see anymore
leave this sight not one of us wants you here in the least bit
go plague some other forum because dude noone likes you here |
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Let's not make this a Kobe vs. Bron thread.
Bron didn't play tonight and has nothing to do with this game. |
How else are we going to belittle Kobe!?
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Seriously guys.
Would you rather have Kobe shoot a jumpshot at the end of a game or would you have Luke take a three with Kobe driving and passing?
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This is where Lebron has the edge over Kobe. Lebron has won multiple games the last 2 seasons in the closing seconds.
I cant remember a game where Kobe has hit a last 2nd shot. Its been years |
You must not remember Bron in the playoffs last year.
He would panic in the air trying to find someone to take the last shot for him. He was playing hot potato in late game situations in the playoffs. |
Actually in situations like this Lebron blows by the defender and finishes with a layup
I have never seen a player win so many games on layups as Lebron does. He did it (twice) to the Wizards in the playoffs 2 years ago and he has done it multiple times since. 5 seconds left and he flat out blows by the defense and ends it with a layup. Ball Game
Kobe's last 2nd shots are predictable. He's either doing a pull up 20 footer or dribble and pump fake, pumk fake, and shoot a 20 footer. |
Look dude, if you love LeBron so much, go root for the Cavs. What does comparing LeBron and Kobe have to do with our team or this game? It's nothing but hate from you cause you hate Kobe, just admit it and move on. LeBron goes to the hoop and makes the layup cause he's huge and other team's players are afraid to touch him and get the foul. You saying LeBron would have made that is like me saying "oh man, Kapono would have made that" if Sasha took the last shot and missed. So what, he's not a Laker, you like that player better go root for that team.
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right. I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. |
Totally agree.
Can't come through every single time. I also must not have received the memo that stated LeBron was the best closer in the game today.
We aren't gonna win every game guys, we played horrible tonight and we deserved to lose. Just attrocious defense.
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right. I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. |
I shouldn't have mentioned LeBron. I'm not trying to compare, I'm trying to make a point. Kobe had 4 seconds. what does he do? wait, wait, then take a ridiculous fade away shot.
If you like that shot then good for you. I promise you Phil didn't draw that one up.
Know what I'm saying? And Kobe is the hero. He's the best in the league. even tonight he played well. but it doesn't mean that he's not a crybaby, he doesn't complain about every call and that he takes the dumbest, wow most wtf shots ever.
IMO
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Good night fellas, I'm tired of reading these people dripping from the mouth for LeBron. A loss is a loss, time to move on and play the next game. It's sad to see such blind people on Lakers boards...
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| the sac bench beat our starters, wow. we deserve to lose this game anyways, u dont give up dat many points one half |
Yeah, they sat Artest & Miller towards the end.
If they can't beat the Kings what makes anyone think they'll be ok on the road against four elite teams.
Too soft, not enough defense. |
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Which one against the Wizards? The one where he traveled or the one where he charged? |
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right. I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. |
Exactly. Gotta remember than Bron is a guard in power forward's body. Besides that, Kobe has hit way more difficult shots.
But this game has nothing to do with Lebron. We played like garbage the entire time. We had a shot at it and Kobe missed. That's really all there is to it.
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Why even respond to B-Scott in these situations? We all know it's pure rhetoric. No offense B-Scott, but we all know your agenda; you don't like Kobe style of ball.
There were much more pressing problems in this game than Kobe's play. That's the bottom line.
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It's funny how people always say that the refs shouldn't decide games the last few possessions.
Gasol gets hit clearly across the arm? No big deal, the refs never call small fouls like that late in the game.
Sasha gets shoved to the floor and Udrih runs into him while he's driving and gets rewarded with game winning free throws? ...
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whens the last time lebrons got doubled on a final shot all of the layups hes hit for final shots have been virtually uncontested against single coverage. |
Washington is the last time that he got a double sent at him.
The doubles don't really matter when you're like 300lbs and you have a head of steam. |
thats one thing i always wonder
is why is it in the closing seconds lebron gets the ball going to the basket and kobe catches it at half court
that is the one thing i don't get |
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I'm so gonna get burned for saying this, but LeBron would have taken it to the rim. 4 seconds is enough time. It's either a foul or you make it...
either that or he would have passed it to one of his three wide open teammates.
okay, sorry, didn't mean to compare Kobe to LeBron. but wth was with him taking the most difficult shot you can ask for? |
You're right, you are gonna get burned. Kobe isn't 6'9, 260, doesn't jump out of the gym, isn't built like a tank and isn't 23 years old. LeBron drives to the hole, he gets the call, Kobe drives, they 'strip' him (foul) with no call. And you'd rather he passed it out than shot it? What if he passed it and the player had no time to shoot like usual? You wouldn't be saying 'he shoulda shot that, bad pass'? Right. I love how Kobe's the hero when he's carrying us in Dallas with 30 in the 4th and OT and he'st the hero when he scores 17 in the 4th in Sacto, but he's 'no LeBron' when he misses the game winner. |
Glad there's still sensible people around here. |
twoone, if you don't have anything thoughtful to say then don't speak. I don't think waiting, waiting and taking a fadeaway shot with two people guarding you a good shot. do you?
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Let's not make this a Kobe vs. Bron thread.
Bron didn't play tonight and has nothing to do with this game.
Last time I'm going to say it. Next time I'm locking the thread.
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Why even respond to B-Scott in these situations? We all know it's pure rhetoric. No offense B-Scott, but we all know your agenda; you don't like Kobe style of ball.
There were much more pressing problems in this game than Kobe's play. That's the bottom line. |
he doesn't like kobe period |
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we didn't lose because of one play, 70 points in a half? painful to watch.
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