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leftymo
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| Kobe will be suspended due to technicals...so hopefully its against an inferior team... |
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kobethetruemvp
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| Why is Phil cracking jokes in the post-game interview? |
because this game is meaningless and he knows we are better than this
and we'll comeback strong the next game.  |
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kobe4ever
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double post.
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Samarian
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Im glad we lost...So this lakers team can realize they aren't the ish. Id rather have lost this game and started a new winning streak playing those 4 playoff contenders.
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kobe4ever
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man 3 controversy calls.
1. when sasha hit the three, the refs only counted as a two. i would like to see the replay of that.
2. the lakers final points. pau definetely got fouled. shoulve been an and 1
3. didnt sasha get pushed by martin which made udrith trip? i know sasha flops a lot but it looked like martin pushed him a lil bit.
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kray28
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I have no problem with Kobe's game today....he didn't press things, and played through the team. It's his teammates that failed to get him the ball in critical moments.
I don't even have a problem with the last play...it was executed well, Kobe just missed a shot he is very capable of making.
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followwind
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weezy and twoone, I'm not using the right words but all I'm trying to say is that Kobe didn't have to take a fade away shot.
Kobe can attack the rim just fine... do you really think the Kings are going to take any chances? they aren't going to foul Kobe, period. |
The way the ref is calling the game tonight, Kobe has no chance of getting the shot off without getting hacked while the refs take a nap at courtside.
And please, let's not get carried away. We lost this game because of terrible defense in the first half. They only allowed 43 points in the second half, why can't they do the same thing in the first half? That's just effortless and the whole team should be embarassed by themselves. |
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JSM
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| i'd even throw pau's game as bad, he was getting completely outhustled it seemed all nite, and especiallly w/ hawes beating him down the floor for that dunk near the end |
Hawes and Moore combined for 28, that's a lot but I think we still could have won had they not let Beno go ape-crap. And Pau was often the last line of defense against Beno (25), Garcia (15), and Martin (21). The perimeter defense was embarrassing. We desperately needed Trevor out there.
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KB+KG=DOMINATION
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| HisAirness24 wrote: |
| Why is Phil cracking jokes in the post-game interview? |
because its one loss and not the end of the world |
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leftymo
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| Samarian wrote: |
| Im glad we lost...So this lakers team can realize they aren't the ish. Id rather have lost this game and started a new winning streak playing those 4 playoff contenders. |
If you think the Lakers will have a winning streak against those four teams I want whatever drugs you are using.
LA doesn't have a prayer in hell to go 4-0 against those teams. Absolutely impossible. And I'd put money on that. |
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Cody
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| Cody wrote: |
weezy and twoone, I'm not using the right words but all I'm trying to say is that Kobe didn't have to take a fade away shot.
Kobe can attack the rim just fine... do you really think the Kings are going to take any chances? they aren't going to foul Kobe, period. |
The way the ref is calling the game tonight, Kobe has no chance of getting the shot off without getting hacked while the refs take a nap at courtside.
And please, let's not get carried away. We lost this game because of terrible defense in the first half. They only allowed 43 points in the second half, why can't they do the same thing in the first half? That's just effortless and the whole team should be embarassed by themselves. |
I never blamed this loss on Kobe.
Read what I'm typing people, all I've said is that Kobe didn't have to settle for an impossible shot.
otherwise, yes, I agree that defense lost this game.
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leftymo
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| KB+KG=DOMINATION wrote: |
| HisAirness24 wrote: |
| Why is Phil cracking jokes in the post-game interview? |
because its one loss and not the end of the world |
exactly.
it's only the first of a few and the end of the #1 seed. |
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kray28
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there was no space on that break w/ kobe, i don't know how he could have gotten him the ball there
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It was a full court break....there was plenty of space and time to give up the rock.
But we know Sasha....he never gives up the rock. Just watch him bring the ball upcourt....he looks straight ahead and never looks around for guys filling the lane.
Particularly amusing was the sequence from the Clipper game where both he and Farmar were racing for an upcourt pass and Farmar beat him to it and then dunked. Sasha's body language on that play disturbed me.
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kray28
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| leftymo wrote: |
| Kobe will be suspended due to technicals...so hopefully its against an inferior team... |
How come you never show up for the wins?
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Pig Miller
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| i'd even throw pau's game as bad, he was getting completely outhustled it seemed all nite, and especiallly w/ hawes beating him down the floor for that dunk near the end |
Hawes and Moore combined for 28, that's a lot but I think we still could have won had they not let Beno go ape-crap. And Pau was often the last line of defense against Beno (25), Garcia (15), and Martin (21). The perimeter defense was embarrassing. We desperately needed Trevor out there. |
no doubt the perimeter D was poor, no one can argue that, but i also place it on pau and lamar for not trapping
at least in the last few minutes of the previous game, they denied passing lanes and picked up the D, not so much this time
moore especially, but hawes as well just played harder than our big guys
i just feel as a teammate if you see your PG or SG getting scorched, you can't just continue to not trap or change up the looks |
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leftymo
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| kray28 wrote: |
| leftymo wrote: |
| Kobe will be suspended due to technicals...so hopefully its against an inferior team... |
How come you never show up for the wins? |
Why would I?
This board is better for venting than blowing sunshine... |
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Pig Miller
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| Pig Miller wrote: |
there was no space on that break w/ kobe, i don't know how he could have gotten him the ball there
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It was a full court break....there was plenty of space and time to give up the rock.
But we know Sasha....he never gives up the rock. Just watch him bring the ball upcourt....he looks straight ahead and never looks around for guys filling the lane.
Particularly amusing was the sequence from the Clipper game where both he and Farmar were racing for an upcourt pass and Farmar beat him to it and then dunked. Sasha's body language on that play disturbed me. |
he was in front of kobe to begin with, so you don't make that pass backwards.
it was more or less a 2 on 2 break, i'm pretty sure the confines were much tighter than you remember, check it on on DVR if you have it |
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KB+KG=DOMINATION
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| leftymo wrote: |
| KB+KG=DOMINATION wrote: |
| HisAirness24 wrote: |
| Why is Phil cracking jokes in the post-game interview? |
because its one loss and not the end of the world |
exactly.
it's only the first of a few and the end of the #1 seed. |
end of the #1 seed?
we still are the #1 seed even after this loss
and we have one more game against san antonio |
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Lqv2015
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| Phil, seriously, it's time to retire that play. You've been running it since the days of MJ, and it's time to put it on the shelf. We need something new. We need variation. It's too predictable. |
I agree. I don't think Kobe should take every last shot. Give someone else a chance (except Odom). But we all know it'll get hectic here if someone else misses that shot. "Why didn't Kobe get that last shot?!?!?" |
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DALakeshow
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Without Bynum and Ariza the Lakers are just not a good enough defensive team to get to the Finals.
We are a very good regular season team that's exciting just like the Phoenix Suns the last 3 years. But get bounced in the playoffs.
We need Ariza and Bynum to be 100% healthy
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Lqv2015
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Loss goes to variety of factors as usual:3. Sasha....yeah he hit some jumpers. But down the stretch, he gets the loose ball, runs the break, has Kobe running it with him, and decides to ignore him. Fine, you're going to ignore the best freaking finisher in the game, at least make the basket....  |
Sasha was in a tough position on that play. The ran from left of the court to the middle not knowing Kobe was beside him even further to the left. The defender was pretty close to both Sasha & Kobe. Sasha had no choice but to drive & try to score. He didn't. |
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lolo
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Sorry to disturb this drama queens convention...
Salud. |
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Radner
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| Phil, seriously, it's time to retire that play. You've been running it since the days of MJ, and it's time to put it on the shelf. We need something new. We need variation. It's too predictable. |
I agree. I don't think Kobe should take every last shot. Give someone else a chance (except Odom). But we all know it'll get hectic here if someone else misses that shot. "Why didn't Kobe get that last shot?!?!?" |
That's another thing that separates the Spurs from the Lakers. They have three clutch players that can and have taken the final shot in a game. We only have one closer which is very discouraging considering everyone knows who to guard. |
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i hate this website when we lose a game....hell its hard coming here when we win most games
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| i hate kobe blah blah blah blah blah blah kobe sucks blah blah blah blah i have private nude photos of lamar blah blah blah blah i am not a laker fan and only come here to express my hate for kobe blah blah blah i hate kobe |
we all know that is what you really wanted to type |
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KB+KG=DOMINATION
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| lolo wrote: |
Sorry to disturb this drama queens convention...
Salud. |
thank you someone isn't building bombshelters for the end of the world |
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I still can't believe we lost to the Queens at home...how is that possible? how can you give up 114 points to the Queens?
I can't get it out of my system...
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KHRIS
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Sorry to disturb this drama queens convention...
Salud. |
Ya its going to be like this till tuesday so ill be off till then. Lakers fans need to learn how to lose because every team does even the Rockets in time.
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Lakerjones
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Loss goes to variety of factors as usual:
1. Lakers defense....although they tightened things up admirably in the second half. Down the stretch though...too many easy looks for the Queens.
2. Refs: First the no-call on Pau's last basket (should have been an And-1)...and they did with a freaking rookie on him. Hawes got another Pau hack earlier get turned into a jump ball. LOL. And then of course the bailout freethrows with 4 secs to go. I thought the refs weren't supposed to blow the whistle at the end?
3. Sasha....yeah he hit some jumpers. But down the stretch, he gets the loose ball, runs the break, has Kobe running it with him, and decides to ignore him. Fine, you're going to ignore the best freaking finisher in the game, at least make the basket.... |
Kray - right on the money post!! So true all the way.
Ultimately it was the D that really killed us. We just could not turn the screws and get the stops we needed. We did somewhat - we got back in the game as you said, but just too many scores by the Kings, especially guys like Moore and Udrih down the stretch. As mentioned Artest wasn't even in there and it wasn't Martin killing us.
Completely frustrating to lose this one, but the good news is we're still on top (even though it would have been great to get a little space from SA), and while a loss is a loss, we battled back and lost by one, not a large margin. If the Kings had blown us out by 30 then I would be worried, but if you notice our losses in general since we got Pau have been under 10 points.
We should have come in with better overall presence considering SA's loss to the Suns, but . . . as said by Kray and others, there was a missing and one for Pau that should have given us an opportunity for a tie and the last call against Sasha was weak. It wasn't a tripping foul. Sasha was laid out on the ground from the screen and Udrih ran him over. Not a foul. Udrih created all the contact. That's a no call. Or an offensive foul on the screener. |
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KB24@CL
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with the 4 game road trip coming up I can see us losing at least a couple...that loss against Sacramento was really unnecessary and will make it a lot tougher now
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