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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: USC BASKETBALL lets make one for just BBALL Reply with quote

iw ant to amke one for USC basketball we have the football and iw atch and am a die ahrd for both.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change the name to "The Official USC hoops thread"
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you guys are getting a new stadium just for USC b-ball. The Sports Arena is a depressing place.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have basketball at USC. man10
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have basketball at USC. man10

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have basketball at USC. man10


Yes they actually do. You know that team that almost knocked off Duke at the elite 8 in 2002. USC has two future NBA lottery picks in Gabriel Pruitt and Nick Young. They also have a freshman by the name of Ryan Francis who is quick as lightning and plays fearless. The recruiting has picked up a ton since Floyd came aboard and I am very excited with the future of USC basketball.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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UCLAeightCLAP wrote:
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They have basketball at USC. man10


Yes they actually do. You know that team that almost knocked off Duke at the elite 8 in 2002. USC has two future NBA lottery picks in Gabriel Pruitt and Nick Young. They also have a freshman by the name of Ryan Francis who is quick as lightning and plays fearless. The recruiting has picked up a ton since Floyd came aboard and I am very excited with the future of USC basketball.

they were good a few years ago when the had bluethenthal, clancy, and scalabrine, but that was the past.

i do think that tim floyd will help the program a lot. but they will always play second fiddle to the Bruins. UCLA will always get the best plays out of SoCal (i.e. Farmar, Afflalo, James Keefe, etc.) just as SUC will get the best football players. floyd will need to look out of SoCal for his recruits whereas UCLA and Ben Howland will rake in all the talent from the southland.

as for this year, i think USC has good players, but not a good team. Pruitt and Young are great players/scorers, but what about the rest of the team. sure lodrick (i think that is the twin that stayed) stewart is pretty good, but i don't think his head is all there (kinda like his brother who was dismissed from the team). and what about the frontline?

the new stadium should also help recruiting, but i still don't think Ben Howland and UCLA are ever going to let the top players from SoCal go to USC.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're not worried about out recruiting you guys right now (everyone knows we didn't need top recruits to be you in the past). Right now we're just trying to get some consistency. We haven't had a good coach for a while and Mike Garrett has finally given the basketball team some support. We've got a great recruiting class coming in (for us, anyway) and once we get some tournament appearances year in and year out, we'll be able to start waving the Cardinal and getting some players to rethink their early commits.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About Lod Sterwart..

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002602903_pacnotes04.html

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Pac-10 notebook: Lodrick wants a role in rebuilding at USC
By Bob Condotta

Seattle Times staff reporter

LOS ANGELES — First-year USC coach Tim Floyd stood before reporters at the Pac-10 men's basketball media day Thursday and said one of the players his team will count on this season for stability and leadership is Lodrick Stewart.

Yes, the same Lodrick Stewart who has made news mostly for rumors of unhappiness, rumblings of transferring and even hints of turning pro during a tumultuous first two seasons with the Trojans.

Floyd said he met with Stewart, a graduate of Rainier Beach High School, shortly after he took over last spring and told him that if he wasn't happy with what Floyd expected of him "it would be a great opportunity for him to look elsewhere."

But instead of opting out, Stewart decided to dive right into Floyd's rebuilding program. Stewart is one of just four returnees. Last season, Henry Bibby was fired early in the season and Jim Saia took over an interim basis before Floyd was hired as the permanent coach following the ill-fated run at Rick Majerus.

Floyd said he told Stewart "it would be very important how he carried himself, how he approached class, how he approached coaching and being at USC. ... He has embraced that. He's been accountable, been respectful, not only to teammates, but to coaching. I've heard he might have a strong personality but I haven't seen that. Maybe he's had the spit-shine on for [the first two weeks of practice] but he's been absolutely terrific."

Stewart will team with sophomores Nick Young and Gabe Pruitt, each regarded as having potential NBA futures, to form a backcourt that could rival anyone else's in the league.



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Rudy Hackett has a pretty good idea about one of the main reasons why American basketball teams have lost their edge in international competition.

It's the conditioning, stupid.

Hackett, a forward on Syracuse's 1975 Final Four team who spent most of the last 20 years playing and coaching in Europe, was appalled at the level of conditioning among even elite American players upon his return to the United States two years ago.

"Our players are not in condition," said Hackett, the new strength and conditioning manager for the USC men's basketball team. "In the last two or three years, the game has slowed down and become a half-court game, pass it to one guy and the other four guys stand still. Players have lost the conditioning level that they were in just five to 10 years ago, especially the young kids."

Lodrick Stewart and Jeremy Barr might feel otherwise. The Trojan players say they have never worked as hard on their conditioning as they have under Hackett since training sessions began in August. Barr has lost 17 pounds and Stewart 12.

"Everyone can tell because I'm quicker, I'm blocking shots now, something I never did my freshman and sophomore year," said Stewart, a 6-foot-4 junior guard who weighs 217 pounds.

Hackett said the key to his running and lifting programs is to keep them entertaining for players who tend to bore easily. The players run on different terrain and at various elevations, from deep sand on the beach to stairs in campus buildings.

Lifting sessions focus on what Hackett called "explosive training" for the ankle, knee and hip areas.

"We've done everything we can to put them in a condition so that when they came here to start playing basketball on Oct. 15, they were ready," Hackett said.

Coach Tim Floyd, who hired Hackett after receiving a recommendation from youth coach Pat Barrett, said he was pleased with the stamina exhibited by his players in practice.

"When you have a young team, it becomes really critical because young players don't understand how hard they have to play and how long they have to play," Floyd said.

Stewart said Hackett, who possesses an imposing 6-9 frame, has proved his commitment by participating in all of the conditioning drills.

"I've never seen a coach come out and run with you," Stewart said. "That lets you know that the coach is dedicated too."

Said Hackett: "I think they can have a greater appreciation and understanding for the training because I'm out there."


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In addition to engaging in negotiations with Oklahoma State to become USC's first opponent at the Galen Center next season, the Trojans are also in discussions with Kentucky, North Carolina and Syracuse about possible matchups during the 2006-07 season. "We talked to pretty much everyone out there that's in the top 40," said assistant coach Phil Johnson, who handles USC's scheduling. "We want to play an attractive schedule." … Junior guard Shaun Davis, who signed with USC in the spring as a transfer from the College of Southern Idaho before failing to meet academic requirements, scored 15 points for New Mexico State against UCLA on Tuesday. "We'd have loved to have had him," Floyd said. "He would have really helped us."



Here's also a picture of the new lod...he's lost 12 lbs since last year and has improved his conditioning dramatically



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About USC having to recruit outside of California. They already have Taj Gibson a 6'8" 215 lbs power forward signed for the 2006 class. He is a top 5 player in the state of california and played for the SCA red team that featured Chase Budinger, Brandon Jennings, Taylor King, Kevin Love, Malik Story, and Daniel Hackett. USC almost nabbed Budinger away from Arizona but Budinger chose the more prestigous program. Malik Story from Artesia High School who is a 2008 wing is regarded as one of the best sophomores in the nation is a USC verbal. Daniel Hackett from St John Bosco High School is a 2007 combo guard who is another USC verbal also one of the top juniors in the state of California. Tim Floyd and USC seem to be doing a fine job in recruiting the underclassmen in California. They also signed a kid by the name of Kevin Galloway from Sacramento who is coming in next year and me and fellow rivals peers think he is a major sleeper nationally and one of the best players in the Westcoast for the 2006 class.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just hope we'll have something to talk about in this thread when March comes around.
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Ugh, we should ask him to change his name.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon... you didn't like Paul Hackett? mhihi
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Ugh, we should ask him to change his name.


He is the father of USC 2007 verbal Daniel Hackett. Rudy played for Syracuse back in the days and was one heck of a player who also played overseas professionally.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: roster Reply with quote

here is the SC basketball roster for the (05-06) season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=AjcIE49IqQITWsIIlSV_suYB1LYF?slug=citadel-2_467370_15&prov=citadel&type=story[/url]
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aonex wrote:
I just hope we'll have something to talk about in this thread when March comes around.


A possible 16th seed and a first round match up against Duke.
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UCLAeightCLAP wrote:
UsC/LaKeRs wrote:
UCLAeightCLAP wrote:
Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 wrote:
They have basketball at USC. man10


Yes they actually do. You know that team that almost knocked off Duke at the elite 8 in 2002. USC has two future NBA lottery picks in Gabriel Pruitt and Nick Young. They also have a freshman by the name of Ryan Francis who is quick as lightning and plays fearless. The recruiting has picked up a ton since Floyd came aboard and I am very excited with the future of USC basketball.

they were good a few years ago when the had bluethenthal, clancy, and scalabrine, but that was the past.

i do think that tim floyd will help the program a lot. but they will always play second fiddle to the Bruins. UCLA will always get the best plays out of SoCal (i.e. Farmar, Afflalo, James Keefe, etc.) just as SUC will get the best football players. floyd will need to look out of SoCal for his recruits whereas UCLA and Ben Howland will rake in all the talent from the southland.

as for this year, i think USC has good players, but not a good team. Pruitt and Young are great players/scorers, but what about the rest of the team. sure lodrick (i think that is the twin that stayed) stewart is pretty good, but i don't think his head is all there (kinda like his brother who was dismissed from the team). and what about the frontline?

the new stadium should also help recruiting, but i still don't think Ben Howland and UCLA are ever going to let the top players from SoCal go to USC.


I agree USC has football and UCLA has Basketball. That fact will never change. No matter if USC gets a new Arena, they are still a USC basketball program that doesn't have the tradition that UCLA has.

Just look at the numbers so far as of 2004:

For UCLA:

NCAA Tournament Appearances: 39
Final Four Appearances: 14
NCAA Basketball Championships: 11





For USC:

NCAA Tournament Appearances: 12
Final Four Appearances: 2
NCAA Basketball Championships: 0



And you don't want me to discuss the players of the past.

So you guys(USC) just stick to Football and we (UCLA) will stick to Basketball.

Have a nice day. man10
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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UCLAeightCLAP wrote:
Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 wrote:
They have basketball at USC. man10


Yes they actually do. You know that team that almost knocked off Duke at the elite 8 in 2002. USC has two future NBA lottery picks in Gabriel Pruitt and Nick Young. They also have a freshman by the name of Ryan Francis who is quick as lightning and plays fearless. The recruiting has picked up a ton since Floyd came aboard and I am very excited with the future of USC basketball.


Ok..I see Gabe Pruitt as a future lottery pick. I give you that. But you're over-rating Nick Young. The only way he becomes a lottery pick is if he sticks for his senior year and averages points 30 a game that same year. The Nick Young call is homer call.

About the recruitung, I have been reading scout.com and I haven't seen any top players picking USC. I'm conceeding that you probably know more about USC, than me....but I just don't see them beating UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, and Washington in the recruiting battle.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok..I see Gabe Pruitt as a future lottery pick. I give you that. But you're over-rating Nick Young. The only way he becomes a lottery pick is if he sticks for his senior year and averages points 30 a game that same year. The Nick Young call is homer call.


Over rating Nick Young??? He alone almost beat UCLA last year at the sports arena. If it wasn't for the 2nd half melt down USC would've easily won that game by double digits. Nick Young is a 6'6" wing who can score in a variety of ways, can rebound extremely well (averaged 12 rebounds per game in high school) and can wow the crowd with his superb dunking ability. I'd take Nick Young over Bryce Taylor, Jawann McClellan, Josh Shipp and he has more of a upside than Afflalo does.


Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 wrote:

About the recruitung, I have been reading scout.com and I haven't seen any top players picking USC. I'm conceeding that you probably know more about USC, than me....but I just don't see them beating UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, and Washington in the recruiting battle.


I don't think you understood my post above. It's very hard for a new coach to come in and try to convince the upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) to come and play for his team. Recruits want to wait and see on how well the team does before anything. I already know Floyd can recruit, look what he did with 80% of the top players already signed in 2005. Floyd has already made his mark in 2007 and 2008, you'd be surprised how many of the top players in California are seriously looking at USC.
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I agree USC has football and UCLA has Basketball. That fact will never change. No matter if USC gets a new Arena, they are still a USC basketball program that doesn't have the tradition that UCLA has.


I agree with that 100%. USC might never have the John Wooden run that UCLA had, but if you do some research USC had some great teams during the Wooden Era. USC had several 2 loss seasons in the 70's and both losses I think were only to UCLA. Back then the NCAA only allowed one team per conference to join the NCAA tournament. Maybe if the rules were a little different and more teams were aloowed in the NCAA tournament maybe USC would've made their mark in history, we'll never know...
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I agree USC has football and UCLA has Basketball. That fact will never change. No matter if USC gets a new Arena, they are still a USC basketball program that doesn't have the tradition that UCLA has.


I agree with that 100%. USC might never have the John Wooden run that UCLA had, but if you do some research USC had some great teams during the Wooden Era. USC had several 2 loss seasons in the 70's and both losses I think were only to UCLA. Back then the NCAA only allowed one team per conference to join the NCAA tournament. Maybe if the rules were a little different and more teams were aloowed in the NCAA tournament maybe USC would've made their mark in history, we'll never know...

this seems to be the norm in college sports. try to name one team that has won multiple NCAA championships in basketball and football.

UCLA has 11 basektball championships but only 1 football
USC has none in basketball and i believe 9 in football (10 if you count that one from 1939 that they declared to be theirs),correct me if i'm wrong
Duke and North Carolina are good in bball and suck in football

not to say that you can't be competitive in both, but i can't think of any school that is dominant in both.
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IVe been watching SC ball since Sam Clancy, Brian , Bluthenthal were on the team and we arent like Arizona football. IF we get matched up with a top 25 team there is a chance. When Desmond Farmer was on SC his last season we took out Arizona With Desmonds 60 pt game. Our rookie this year will definately give us Paint power. On D and on offense. Our C and PF are btter than UCLA big men. They ahve the slight edge on the G position but not by much. Pruitt and Young will have a great season this eyar and Stewart our captain will be the role model. I see this eyar being better than last years and with Tim FLoyd coming all i can say ITS GAME TIME.
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UCLAeightCLAP wrote:

this seems to be the norm in college sports. try to name one team that has won multiple NCAA championships in basketball and football.

UCLA has 11 basektball championships but only 1 football
USC has none in basketball and i believe 9 in football (10 if you count that one from 1939 that they declared to be theirs),correct me if i'm wrong
Duke and North Carolina are good in bball and suck in football

not to say that you can't be competitive in both, but i can't think of any school that is dominant in both.


I know what you are saying. I'm not saying USC is going to be a dominate hoops team as well as a football team, but look what Billy Donovan did with Florida. 12 wins first year, final four next year. Kelvin Sampson's Oklahoma Squad has a respected program also. Texas is looking to make a huge splash this year. USC has a chance to be a regular in the field of 64 come March because of the homebase talent, the new arena, Tim Floyd's work ethic, his recruiting skills and the powerhouse football program which will always attract athletes to the school. USC is on it's way jam2
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Bad, bad 3-point shooting tonight. Nick was great as usual but Gabe just wasn't hitting his shots. Bad loss.
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yea i agree. Rousean was a surprise to me for his first game. Jeremy Barr was not to productive. I hate the factt hat it wasnt telivised. Nick Young acctually had a better game than most of his last year games. I believe it was Pruitt that that gave us some trouble. He shouldnt have shot as many shots as he should have after missing 10. I think we could get ranekd higher than we are sappose to be which is 8 in the pac-10. I just hate that nto as many games will be telivised this year i had to depend on yahoo gamchannel the whole game.
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Didn't watch the game but heard about the game. Cromwell was a surprised indeed, Ndaiye (sp) was a foul machine. This is a new team and a system is in place, needs to gel and win the majority of these non conference games. Anyone planning on going to the North Carolina game??
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Ok..I see Gabe Pruitt as a future lottery pick. I give you that. But you're over-rating Nick Young. The only way he becomes a lottery pick is if he sticks for his senior year and averages points 30 a game that same year. The Nick Young call is homer call.


Over rating Nick Young??? He alone almost beat UCLA last year at the sports arena. If it wasn't for the 2nd half melt down USC would've easily won that game by double digits. Nick Young is a 6'6" wing who can score in a variety of ways, can rebound extremely well (averaged 12 rebounds per game in high school) and can wow the crowd with his superb dunking ability. I'd take Nick Young over Bryce Taylor, Jawann McClellan, Josh Shipp and he has more of a upside than Afflalo does.


Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 wrote:

About the recruitung, I have been reading scout.com and I haven't seen any top players picking USC. I'm conceeding that you probably know more about USC, than me....but I just don't see them beating UCLA, Arizona, Stanford, and Washington in the recruiting battle.


I don't think you understood my post above. It's very hard for a new coach to come in and try to convince the upperclassmen (juniors and seniors) to come and play for his team. Recruits want to wait and see on how well the team does before anything. I already know Floyd can recruit, look what he did with 80% of the top players already signed in 2005. Floyd has already made his mark in 2007 and 2008, you'd be surprised how many of the top players in California are seriously looking at USC.


I have my opinion and you have yours. There is no way I can change your mind and there is no way in hell you can ever change mind. I respect varying opinions. It makes for good talk and debate. jam2

Afflalo in my opinion is a better all around player. He's a great on the ball and off the ball defender and better defensivley overall than Young. Offensively, we can argue forever who's better. Its a push in my opinion.
Afflalo is over Young defensively.

Young is good player, I wish him all the best.

Great win by Cal State Northridge....by the way.

Don't be discouraged, Northridge is a good team. They beat UCLA a couple of years ago...given that was a Steve Lavin coached team. Man, but this loss for USC hurts the PAC-10. Gives our conference a black mark. Thanks guys. man10
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kobe_One_Kenobi_8 wrote:


Great win by Cal State Northridge....by the way.

Don't be discouraged, Northridge is a good team. They beat UCLA a couple of years ago...given that was a Steve Lavin coached team. Man, but this loss for USC hurts the PAC-10. Gives our conference a black mark. Thanks guys. man10


I guess USC is the doormat of PAC-10 basketball. I got the bottom 3 already marked down. #13 Stanford who lost by 16 to UCI and CAL who also lost to Eastern Michigan. GO BRUINS!!!! You guys have a tough game in your hands against Memphis.
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