Is LT on his way to being best ever?

trodgers · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject:

Bo Jackson was better than just about anyone who has ever strapped on cleats. I say that Bo was the best ever. Then I like the following:

Sanders
Brown
Payton
Campbell
Smith
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trodgers · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject:

Watch him pound #31 from Denver.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24RkiXnHFr8
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trodgers · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject:

In that clip I showed, Bosworth (I know he wasn't that great in the NFL, but bear with me) said that Bo's speed and strenght combo couldn't help but make you second guess yourself. That's amazing to think of a pro football player being worried like that about another guy.
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A bit off topic, but I think had Bosworth not been injured so early like Bo, he would've gone down as one of the great defensive players of his era.

John3:16 · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject:

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GuRu · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:44 am Post subject:

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GuRu · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject:

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Bo - Hype machine yes. But I know what I saw with my own eyes. That's all I can say about that. That Hype was much deserved believe me.

Some of us here, are old farts.....and actually saw some of the greats run. I am comparing what I saw in Bo to what I see now. I have seen many clips of Jim Brown and Gale Sayers. I vividly recall Sweetness, Barry, OJ, Dickerson.....and all the other real good backs. None of them had the power, burst and vision Bo had.

GuRu · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

Sorry, I just cant grant a player status above some of the games greats who never won anything, had an injury riddled career, and only played a few years. He was a good runner and a good baseball player. His claim to fame is the 4.1 forty yard dash. You gotta produce over a long period of time for status like that. Hes the Amare Stoudemire of football.

What happened to him was a damn shame. When were talking multi-sports stars, he gets mentioned. When were talking all time greatest athletes, he gets mentioned. But when were talking all time greatest running backs, I cant put him above guys like Jim Brown, Sweetness, Emmit, and Barry. Not with their body of work they contributed to the game.

Just one mans opinion however.
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trodgers · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject:

Jackson didn't have an injury-riddled career. He didn't play much because he was playing baseball at other times. I saw him just like Borri did. Marcus Allen is my favorite RB of all-time, but Bo Jackson was breathtaking. Go to youtube, type in "Bo Jackson", and watch him. No one has ever had the strength/power combo Jackson had. Jackson was probably the fastest football player ever, certainly the fastest who wasn't a gimmicky player (see the thread on sprinters signing up for football). He was also one of the strongest at any position, and was easily one of the most powerful RBs ever. He literally hit guys, knocked them down, and was at full speed and blowing away defenders in a second.

222 pounds, but a 4.12 40-second dash
Only player with two 90+ yard runs (also has an 88-yard run)
221 yards is his single-game best
Had 7 100-yard games despite averaging 13.5 carries per game
Did it all in just 38 games.
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81 Is Not Enough · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:39 pm Post subject:

Yes Bo was good, but one of the things that define a RB is their longevity and consistency of greatness. Jamal Lewis had 1 great season, a season that will always be in the record books, but he's not one of the greats.
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GuRu · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:37 am Post subject:

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GuRu · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject:

What i will say about Payton, in comparison to Bo, is that while he definitely wasnt as fast, and maybe not as strong (although thats unknown), none of that had to do with what made sweetness great. He was just a great runner. He had amazing field vision, amazing running instincts. He was also the model of consistency. 186 consecutive games type consistent.

Sweetness retired the leagues All-Time leading rusher (surpassed now though). He won a SuperBowl, he scored 110 TD's, he rushed for 275 yards in one game, he had ten 100 yard seasons. He won 2 NFL MVP's, and maybe most impressively, he won 5 straight rushing titles.

Youre not going to find Bo Jackson on many, if any, All-Time lists.
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GuRu · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:

^^^^ Oh, and you can add to the fact that Payton did the majority of that on abysmal Bears teams with no O-Line and no help.
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John3:16 · Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject:

Here's a really good short video on Bo's career and the question that always pops up when discussing him: What if?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24RkiXnHFr8

Note: At 1:10 he doesn't get the best of Ronny Lott. We'll call it a draw. man1

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LT is the best RB of this generation, I think thats cemented. I never saw Bo play, I never saw Emmitt (in his prime), I never saw Sweetness or Jim Brown. Some of us are youngins borri:mhihi: .The only other guy that I've seen whose game I've respected as much as LT's was Marshall Faulk. Marshall's all-around game was just incredible to me, him and LT are very similar in my eyes and hopefully LT can get that ring soon. jam2

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no_dont · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:19 am Post subject:

He is nasty. IMO he will be the best ever. Unfortunately I think they win it all this year. If they get the top seed. LT will have his depth back at line.
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TalkieWalkie · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:

THe funny thing is people have ignored LT largely for his first 6 seasons...

You'd hear some about him, but not alot...those big recieveing rushing seasons he had...getting snubbed in the pro-bowl and rookie of the year...

Becoming just the second back in history (along with DICKERSON) to rush for 1000 in his first 6 seasons...

I've seen this guy do what he's doing since the beginning.... He's just doing it a little bit better right now.

ANd now, he's setting a record that probably will stand for a long time.....and doing it while elevating his team to the very top...

If he wins a Superbowl or two...he's up there...at the TOP.

ANd with longevity, stats, and all that asside.....is there a back in the history of the game that could do it all quite like LT does it?? Other than maybe Sweetness....

LT is complete. You can talk about Barry's ypc, but here was a guy who basically looked for the big run every time as opposed to staying the course and playing the team game-plan....PLUS Barry quit....and I don't like that.

LT has the numbers...he has the versitlity...and he may get the team success this year....he's got the criteria...
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GuRu · Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject:

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I know its hard for some people to live down legacies with some of you, but this is guy is arguable one of the best to have done it.
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no_dont · Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:30 am Post subject:

Looks like Neel is reading through this site
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