Groundless Trade & free agent signing Idea Thread

Abnormal · Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:41 am Post subject:

I have an idea that might land us KG!!!!

First trade LO to Boston for Theo Ratliff’s expiring $11,666,666 and maybe their first which is the fifth or their second rounder which is the 32 over all pick second pick in the second round. Then trade Ratliff’s $11,666,666 add Browns $9,075,000 and Bynum to Minnesota for KG

Why would they do this you may ask 20,741,666 cap space gained IN 08 and their big packed with everybody favorite word potential.

Before everybody flames me this trade works on real gm fill may have to be added to take back more here or there IE: picks TO PLEASE GM'S but it works.

what do you guys think

wallangong · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 917 Location: Colorado

trade idea if kobe has to go:

Celtics get:
Andrew Bynum
Vladimir Radmanovic
Maurice Evans
#19 pick

Celtics lose:
Paul Pierce
Leon Powe

Bulls get:
Kobe Bryant
Kwame Brown

Bulls lose:
Ben Gordon
Ben Wallace
Chris Duhon
#9 pick

Lakers get:
Paul Pierce
Ben Gordon
Ben Wallace
Chris Duhon
Leon Powe
#9 pick

Lakers lose:
Kobe Bryant
Andrew Bynum
Kwame Brown
Vladimir Radmanovic
Maurice Evans
#19 pick

SashKa_LA_2000 · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject:

^^^ Oh ! The head just goes around ! I'd say to what was said upper that it is too difficult to make such a blockbuster trade.

Pau Gasol gets 13.7 M next season.
So, to do this trade, taking into consideration that Pau has demanded to be traded, I'd say so :

Lakers trade
Radmanovic - 5.6 M
Kwame - 9.0 M
Bynum - 2.1 M

Lakers get
Pau
and a filler who will make the trade possible

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What do you think? Pipe or not pipe?
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sm61893 · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject:

Lakerfantilidie · Joined: 15 Jun 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Arizona

How bout this one

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1998~1031~3002~1016~2421~25~61~1711~356&teams=5~23~23~23~5~13~5~13~23
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Lakerfantilidie · Joined: 15 Jun 2003 Posts: 1189 Location: Arizona

How bout this for a small trade that makes sense and works for both teams:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=1031~1016~1731&teams=25~25~13
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Abnormal · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:26 am Post subject:

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Bynum/Mihm/DJ
Pau/Ronnie/Vlad
Ron/Ariza/luke
Kobe/Sasha/Karl
Fisher/Farmar

Abnormal · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:28 am Post subject:

=] mistake click cry3

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Bynum/Mihm/DJ
Pau/Ronnie/Vlad
Ron/Ariza/luke
Kobe/Sasha/Karl
Fisher/Farmar

Klewfish · Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:59 am Post subject:

I mentioned this earlier in another thread.

Lakers Trade: Vladamir Radmanovic, Jordan Farmar, Brian Cook, 2008 2nd
Heat Trade: Jason Williams, Udonis Haslem

New Lineup

Jason Williams/Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar
Kobe Bryant/Mo Evans/Sasha Vujacic
Lamar Odom/Luke Walton
Udonis Haslem/Ronny Turiaf
Kwame Brown/Andrew Bynum/Chris Mihm

then at the trade line, we can offer the TWolves Jason Williams, Kwame Brown, Mo Evans ($19ish mil exp K's), Andrew Bynum, 2008 1st for KG. New lineup

Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar
Kobe Bryant/Sasha Vujacic
Lamar Odom/Luke Walton
Kevin Garnett/Udonis Haslem
Chris Mihm/Ronny Turiaf
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KB+KG=DOMINATION · Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1987

how about a simple 1 for 1 trade that makes us way better.

vlad radmonovic for drew gooden straight up.

Klewfish · Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject:

jjin28 · Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 1429 Location: Los Angeles, CA

ALMOST PERFECT TRADE (need help on the bulls part.

WOLVES
T Wolves Outgoing: Kevin Garnett
T Wolves Incomeing: Andrew Bynum Joakim Noah, Ben Gordon, Theo Ratliff

Wolves do it for having a future line up:
Foye
Gordon
Brewer
Noah
Bynum

That is a good starting 5 to build on...

BOSTON
Boston Outgoing: Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, #1 pick
Boston Incoming: Lamar Odom

Celts do it to become instant contenders in the East
Rando
Ray Allan
Pierce
Odom
Jefferson

Chicago
Chicago Outgoing: Ben Gordan, Joakim Noah, Chris Duhon
Chicago Incoming: Gerald Green, Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittention, Lakers #1, Bostons #1

Bulls do it b/c......well, this is the part I need help on...a little more and it should do it..

Lakers
Lakers Outgoing: Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittention, # 1 pick
Lakers Incoming: Kevin Garnett, Chris Duhon

Reasons: DUH!
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wallangong · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 917 Location: Colorado

Lakers Incoming: JO, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Tony Allen
Lakers Outgoing: Bynum, Brown, Radmanovic, Farmar, Cook, 1st rounder

Pacers Incoming: Bynum, Brown, Radmanovic, Telfair, Ratliff
Pacers Outgoing: JO, Ike Diogu, Marquis Daniels, David Harrison

Celtics Incoming: Cook, Diogu, Daniels, Farmar, Harrison, Lakers' 1st rounder
Celtics Outgoing: Green, Telfair, Gomes, Allen

no explanation needed as to why we would do this trade. pacers, i think this is as good a deal as you're going to get.
the toughest part is the celtics: we all know they want to get rid of telfair. doubt they want to trade green, but as far as i know he hasn't done much in his young career (i have no idea how the Celts FO feels about him, but now they have ray allen as their starting SG), tony allen is kind of lost in the shuffle with their backcourt rotation. and gomes i know is a solid guy but you replace him with diogu. they also get a 3 pt shooting big man in cook, and a servicable center in harrison

Klewfish · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject:

I'd like to name off some non-Lakers trades that I think would benefit some teams.

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Klewfish · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject:

wallangong · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 917 Location: Colorado

if kobe wants out, how bout this:

Lakers Incoming: Agent Zero, Caron Butler, Ben Wallace
Lakers Outgoing: Kobe, Bynum, Radmanovic, Farmar, Cook

Bulls Incoming: Kobe, Cook
Bulls Outgoing: Wallace, Ben Gordon

Wizards Incoming: Bynum, Gordon, Radmanovic, Farmar
Wizards Outgoing: Arenas, Butler

Great trade for each team IF for some reason Gilbert planned on leaving Washington when he became a free agent.

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Lakers Trade: Kwame Brown, Mo Evans
Lakers Receive: Ricky Davis, Marko Jaric

We take Jaric's contract off their hands and get a deadly midrange threat in Davis. Simple trade, solid improvement.
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L4L · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: "Groundless" Idea: Corey Maggette

My "groundless" thoughts on Corey Maggette:

In General:
Since 2006, Maggette's name has been tied to NUMEROUS organizations including Miami, Indiani, Lakers, Jazz, and more.

The most recent rumor involving the Lakers, of course, involved trading Luke Walton for Corey Maggette. Somewhat shockingly this offer was supposedly TURNED DOWN.

As we all know, the Clippers surprised a few people by taking Al Thorton. If Corey Maggette was to be the SF of the future, this sure as hell was a funny of showing it. In fact, it seems to again coincide with Dunleavy's choice to bury Corey on the bench. Corey, who over the years, has made it very clear that he believes he's a starting NBA talent. I completely agree! While Dunleavy has promised Corey that he will start, it doesn't appear as if he is in their long term plans anymore. Al Thorton is a tweener, and with Elton Brand as the court general, it doesn't appear as if Corey has a place in the Clipper's future plans.

With Maggette having the option to end his contract at the end of this season, the Clippers risk losing a 20ppg scorer for absolutely nothing. If they've thought about making a deal once, why not revisit this deal?

Why we should target #50:
An All-Around Talented Kid:
Over the last four seasons, he has a PER of 19.4.

To give you an idea of what that means, here are some 2006-2007 PER numbers for top SFs:

Here are just some general, basic statistics involving the kid:

He's a legit #2 option:
The fact of the matter of the is, for the last FIVE STRAIGHT seasons Corey Maggette has averaged over 20 points per 40 minutes. This kid can score! He's not putting up inefficient numbers either. He's a career 47.5 eFG% shooter, and has exceeded, or met, an eFG% of 48.0 4 out of his eight seasons with the Clippers. Over the course of his career, Maggette averages 22 points per 48 minutes. Wow! These are impressive numbers for a guy that NO ONE is talking about right now.

No one on our team possesses Maggette's skill set:
You wanna talk about an athlete, you can start talking about Corey Maggette. As we all know, Maggette is strong an ox. He literally bulls his way into the lane each and every night. In fact, not even Kobe gets to the line as much as Maggette. Over the last 3 seasons, Corey has AVERAGED 11 free throws trips per night. That's astounding for a SF. Not only that, Corey is an 82% free throw shooter! That's excellent! Unlike other players on this team, Corey has a shoot second mentality. You won't see this kid jack up shot attempt after shot attempt. With Maggette, you know he's going to the rack, but you can't stop it.

Defensive Aptitude:
While Maggette isn't the greatest quality defender, he brings a toughness that shows up on the stat sheet.

Based on the new DCS ratings that came out on August 1st:

Furthermore, away from the numbers, Maggette is just a tough guy who doesn't take crap from people; exactly the kind of attitude we need. He's strong enough to defender the bigger SFs in this league such as Carmelo Anthony, Ron Artest, and LeBron James. This is highly advantageous because it means Kobe no longer has to worry about going to the post against these types of players.

He's 27 Years Old:
He's not old enough to the point where we have to worry about signing him to a longer deal, and yet he's not young enough to the point where we have to worry about foolish inexperienced mistakes. He's an 8 year vet of the league.

Friends with KB24!:
I can't believe I'm using such a silly reason to promote getting a player! However, in light of recent events, this can be nothing but an added bonus. It means better chemistry, and it means Kobe has something good to talk about.

The Negatives:

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How about this trade? I think Clips would do with the injury to Brand and the Pacers get Odom AND Bynum.

Lakers get Maggette and JO+Harrison and Armstrong as the fillers. Luke would come off the bench as our 6th man but I think he can handle it.

Fisher/Crittenton/Armstrong (2 veterans and one potential all-star)
Bryant/Evans/Karl
Maggette/Walton/
O'Neal/Turiaf
Brown/Harrison/Mihm

Add Webber to the mix at PF and maybe a 3rd string SF with our remaining MLE? Hassan Adams perhaps?

Clips upgrade their PG position with Tinsley running the floor since Knight won't be able to play 48 minutes a game. Diogu is a nice young player that might be useful to them. They get Vlad Rad back+Sasha another shooter and an expiring contract of his own. They go into a semi-rebuild mode with young players like Diogu and Thornton with most of the minutes but will be able to make a playoff run when Brand and Livingston return...Kaman is expected to produce after a disappointing year last season too.

Pacers get Bynum+Odom which they want+a talented PG in Farmar, they get a veteran shooter in Tim Thomas who has proven that he can be clutch, another big man shooter in Cook, and the floor general type mentality of Cassel (not to mentin his 6 mil expiring)

The plus side is we keep Kwame's 9 mil expiring contract and his game should be elevated playing next to JO. We can also trade him as well if we find it fit

*Another variation could include Mobley going to Indy and the Pacers giving the Clips either Dunleavy or Murphy*

*Crittitenton can be substituted for Farmar but only if Bird asks for him first*