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Massacre Clublakers Moderator

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: Coach K Says Wade, Bosh Will Be On '08 Team |
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U.S. changes coming
The team that represented the U.S. here will not be the same next year. U.S. coach Mike Krzyzewski said Miami's Dwyane Wade, who is recuperating from shoulder and knee surgery, will definitely be on the 2008 team.
Krzyzewski also said Dallas native Chris Bosh, who could not play because of a foot injury, is likely to be on the team. The two players most likely to be replaced will be the Hornets' Tyson Chandler and the Grizzlies' Mike Miller. |
http://www.star-telegram.com/287/story/222267.html
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nameant

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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I was just thinking about this last night. Honestly the only move I'd make is trade out Chandler for Bosh. Wade is a good player, but what does he bring that we NEED? Nothing. _________________
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Weezy

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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I really don't see the point of Wade being on the team. I'd bring in Boozer or somebody else. If we have Kobe for defense and shooting and then bring in Redd for him why do we need Wade who can't shoot and sucked it up last time he played international ball always looking for the foul call but not getting it? Bosh, sure, though I think Boozer is better. _________________ Weezy's Weemens
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Klewfish ClubNetsHoops.com Administrator

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Bosh should definitely be on the team over Chandler. I like Chandler but Bosh was dominating in the Blue vs. White scrimmage.
As for Wade, I don't see what he can bring to the team that we don't already have. Yes, he's better overall than Mike Miller and Michael Redd, but we use them for 3pt shooting, something Wade can't do. He can drive and dunk. We've already seen Lebron, Melo, Kobe, Deron do that. _________________ GoalLineBlitz (Manute Bol- LB) http://goallineblitz.com/game/signup.pl?ref=298765
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revgen HDTV/Multimedia Guru
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 8986 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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The only thing Wade brings is another SG who can drive to the basket off the bench behind Kobe. Unfortunately, Wade's jumpshot leaves much to be desired, and his defense isn't exactly going to help us. On top of that, Wade didn't do too well last year due to the fact that international ball allows more contact on the perimeter which means less driving to the hoop. Because of this, I'd rather have Miller than Wade.
I absolutely agree with Bosh over Chandler. Nothing against Tyson, he's an helluva good rebounder and defender, but all he really is for us is "Dwight Lite". Bosh is really the only big we have who can actually perform real low-post moves in the paint. Looking at Dwight last year and this year, I don't have much confidence that he'll be much different by the time summer roles around next year. So having Bosh on our team is a must if we're going to score in the paint against the better Euro teams. _________________ Please Read the HDTV Media FAQ http://www.clublakers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51627
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nameant

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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Just to follow up..
I think adding Wade to this team b/c he's DWYANE WADE, could hurt us in the long run. Why? Odds are he's going to replace Redd, Miller, Billups, or Williams. All 4 are better shooters than Wade, 3 of them by a long shot. One thing we didn't see a lot of in the tournament, matter of fact I think we might have seen it 2 or 3 times, was zone defense. You can bet we'll see it in the Olympics a lot. Redd, Miller, and Billups are here to break that zone. I'd like to see Billups stay but when he came off the bench to replace Kidd, there was a slight slippage in our team game. That comes with a pass first, true PG. That's where Williams comes in. We need that other true PG and we need to keep Billups for his leadership, defense and shooting.
I think they may look to cutting Tayshaun for Wade. _________________
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stevenwithaV

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Chris Bosh should definitely replace Tyson Chandler. He'd add an element to the team that Howard and Stoudemire just didn't bring to the team.
As far as Wade goes, I'd hate to see this team broken up. He doesn't have the shooting that the team needs. If I were to guess, though, I'd say that Deron Williams would get the axe to accommodate him. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Oh no!
I don't wanna see Wade here! |
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KB24@CL Clublakers Moderator

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Wade does belong on this team, no doubt. He has been one of the first to commit to team USA and although he canīt shoot, he has other qualities.
Wade >>>> Deron Williams, period.
Billups, Kidd and Wade can handle the point guard position pretty well. _________________
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"Basketball doesn't build character. It reveals it"
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two0one7

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Weezy

Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 21602 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| KB8@CL wrote: |
Wade does belong on this team, no doubt. He has been one of the first to commit to team USA and although he canīt shoot, he has other qualities.
Wade >>>> Deron Williams, period.
Billups, Kidd and Wade can handle the point guard position pretty well. |
I don't think Wade>>>>Williams for this team. Williams has great passing skills and he's only going to get better, plus his defense isn't bad. Williams also can beat his man off the dribble and finish, maybe not as well as Wade, but good enough to get the job done. I just don't see us being as successful with Wade backing up Kobe unless Wade learns to shoot, we can't have too many guys driving with no one to kick the ball out to. _________________ Weezy's Weemens
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karacha

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'd rather have Miller than Wade, because international basketball is about shooting. Especially 3-pters. And Wade is not known for his shooting skills. Perhaps, if he was to play some PG instead of Deron... I just don't know.
As I already said: this team is almost perfect. I'd just invite Marion instead of Prince, to play D and do some "dirty work." And Boozer instead of Wade. I'd definitely like to see Boozer on this team more than Bosh, but that's just me. _________________
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SP1

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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AvenLarue
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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nameant

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| KB8@CL wrote: |
Wade does belong on this team, no doubt. He has been one of the first to commit to team USA and although he canīt shoot, he has other qualities.
Wade >>>> Deron Williams, period.
Billups, Kidd and Wade can handle the point guard position pretty well. |
Wade at the point? Now you're just asking for trouble. No doubt Wade is a better individual player than Williams but Williams is a true, playmaking, PG. Something this team will need due to Kidd's age. Kidd isn't going to play big minutes and the team wasn't as sharp w/o his playmaking out there. What does Wade bring, that we need, that Williams can't provide?
Scoring? We have Kobe, LBJ, Melo, Howard, Amare, Redd.
Shooting? We have Kobe, Melo, Redd, Miller. Besides, Wade isn't a shooter.
Playmaking? We have Kobe, Kidd, LBJ, Williams.
Defense? Wade's not about to come in and make an impact there.
Now...
FT Shooting? Yeah we could use some help there.  _________________
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Azndude2190

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Replace Chandler with Bosh and bring back everyone else...and the 08 team is set.I kind of want the USA team to somehow make room for Battier(great defender/3pt shooter)Wade is useless in terms of what this team needs. _________________ "If this team wont step up, I WILL"- Sasha Vujacic |
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lakerswiz

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JuanoLAL

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Goodbye Mike Miller, goodbye Tyson Chandler. _________________ I drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive?
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Ianxcom

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I liked the way Mike Miller hit his open jumpers. I'll miss that part of his game. _________________ Don't look back in anger now is all that you can see
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Daloyalfan18

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Chicano wrote: |
Oh no!
I don't wanna see Wade here! |
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ladam24

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'd take out Channdler and put Bosh in.
We don't need Wade. He's no good in the international game at all and frankly, he brings nothing we need. _________________
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The Maverick Australia's Lakers Rep

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wade and Kobe  |
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melo061

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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Frankly i can't stand wade and it has very little to do with the kobe thing. Ray allen, vince and shaq, love watching them play but Wade is the one guy i can't stand. The final straw came when he tried to defend the calls he got during the finals. I mean, he could've kept queit but no, he comes out and said he deserved the whole call. Also, the way he throws his body at people and limps like he has been hit by a truck is something i detest (something i hate when kobe yells heeeeeey in the paint).
Keep him off team usa, they don't need him. He brings nothing the team needs. We have shooters, defender, playamers. We need inside play, not another a sg who's shooting is meh. |
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hoopschick03

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| I personally think we need both Bosh and Chandler. I don't know, I like Tyson. He's limited offensively, but defensively he plays the low blocks as well as any of the other bigs. He's a good swatter and a good rebounder. |
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Critter ClubHawks.com Administrator

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Showtime is Magic

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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Goodbye Mike Miller, goodbye Tyson Chandler. |
I wish Miller didnt have to go but oh well |
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lunatic4jc

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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bosh for chandler
boozer for prince
arenas/wade for deron
bosh is better than chandler overall.. he can score too..
boozer is for his physical play and rebounding.. he's a true PF
arenas/wade are better overall players than deron
wade doesn't do anything particulary great .. he's a great slasher, but is he going to to slash through the zone defense? he's neither a superb defender nor shooter.. _________________
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Orlando Tragic

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Chicano wrote: |
Oh no!
I don't wanna see Wade here! |
Fade doesn't bring anything to the international level. He has no jumpshot, and his tendency to drive to the basket and expect a foul will just result in turnover after turnover.
say no to fade. _________________ A DAGGER IN MY STOMACH |
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nameant

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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, let's trade out Miller for Wade. That makes perfect sense as this team was built by needs not by who's the biggest star. Remember, we wanted a TEAM, not a collection of all-stars. _________________
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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besides this is all wade will do:
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