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BDL in the Big Easy: Ranking Saturday night’s dunks
By J.E. Skeets
Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 1:11 am EST
1. Dwight Howard's Self Alley-Oop (first dunk, finals). I don't know what's tougher, tapping a ball off the glass from a bounce and then slamming it home with your opposite hand or trying to explain it. That dunk was unreal. My only complaint: Dwight almost made it look too easy. It could've used a little more oomph!
2. Howard's Behind-The-Glass (first dunk, first round). He took Andre Iguodala's '06 classic and added a freakin' windmill. It's amazing he didn't decapitate himself.
3. Gerald Green's Through-The-Legs Off-The-Bounce Pass (first dunk, finals). G-Money has mastered the art of putting the ball through his legs. He gets that thing around and up unbelievably quick. Too bad Rashard McCants doesn't know how to throw a pass.
4. Jamario Moon's 360 Off-The-Bounce (first dunk, first round). The extension on this one was ridiculous. Moon had to go way, way back -- while spinning -- to make it happen. Watch how high he gets.
5. Green's Cupcake (first dunk, first round). Loved the creativity with this one. The replays of Green blowing out the candle had the arena in stitches. Obvious impossible recommendation for next year: light the candle.
6. Howard's Superman (second "dunk," first round). I'm going to get grilled in the comments for placing this so low, but the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. It's a shame, too, because everything else was perfect.
7. Green's No Shoes Through-The-Legs (second dunk, finals). This one failed for two reasons. First, Green had just gone through-the-legs on his dunk prior. Second, I didn't even realize he had taken his shoes off. He could have sold that better.
8. Rudy Gay's Off-The-Stanchion (second dunk, first round). YouTube failed us tonight.
9. Moon's Tape (second dunk, first round). This dunk probably would've gotten Moon into the finals had he just ditched that whole tape set-up. Don't ever take up the javelin, Moon.
10. Howard's Mini-Basket (second dunk, finals). Meh.
11. Green's Windmill From The Ladder Pass. This one was horrible. Green windmill'd a lazy man's alley-oop. Color me whoopty-freakin-do.
12. Gay's Left-Handed Windmill (first dunk, first round). This was the only dunk of the night to score in the 30's -- and rightfully so. Nick Young would've put on a much more entertaining show. Sorry, Gay. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: Re: Yahoo Sports Blog: Ranking Saturday night’s dunks |
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My rankings
1. Dwight Howard's Self Alley-Oop
2. Howard's Superman
3. Howard's Behind-The-Glass
4. Moon's Tape
5. Gerald Green's Through-The-Legs Off-The-Bounce Pass
6. Jamario Moon's 360 Off-The-Bounce
7. Green's No Shoes Through-The-Legs
8. Rudy Gay's Off-The-Stanchion
9. Green's Cupcake
10. Green's Windmill From The Ladder Pass.
11. Howard's Mini-Basket
12. Gay's Left-Handed Windmill
Moon's tape dunk was way underrated due to the tape. If you watch it again you see he takes off from just barely one step over the ft line and still FLYS, it's a great dunk. He should have been in the finals and this guy's right, he would have without the tape.
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1. Dwight to himself
2. Superman
3. The Birthday Cake
4. Dwight's Iggy on steroids
5. Green with no shoes
6. Moon 360
7. Moon from the FT Line
8. Rudy off the stanchion
9. Dwight's mini-basket
10. Green off the bounce
11. Rudy Left-handed windmill
12. Green's ladder-oop
Great year actually. Even the ones on the bottom of my list were fun to watch |
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Superman. Period. 
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Dwight's first 3 have to be the top 3 of any ranking.
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
Haters.
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One thing for sure the hype behind D. Howard is off the charts. Still would like an explanation on how a non-dunk in a dunk contest can be considered one of the best dunks? In logical terms this just doesn't make any sense to me. I know he got awesomely high, and had all the theatrics going however he did not do the most important thing which is complete the dunk. I am sure he can do it, taking off from closer range being that he was going to come up short on that attempt. Should have been a do-over IMO. Hope this doesn't spur people just jumping as high as they can or doing whatever in the air and just throwing the ball down.
1. Dwight's off the back of the backboard.
2. The Birthday Cake
3. Moon 360
4. Green shoeless
5. Dwight off the backboard to himself
6. Green off the bounce
7. Moon from the FT Line
8. Rudy off the stanchion
9. Dwight's mini-basket
10. Rudy Left-handed windmill
11. Green's ladder-oop
12. Superman
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| TXLAKERFAN wrote: |
One thing for sure the hype behind D. Howard is off the charts. Still would like an explanation on how a non-dunk in a dunk contest can be considered one of the best dunks? In logical terms this just doesn't make any sense to me. I know he got awesomely high, and had all the theatrics going however he did not do the most important thing which is complete the dunk. I am sure he can do it, taking off from closer range being that he was going to come up short on that attempt. Should have been a do-over IMO. Hope this doesn't spur people just jumping as high as they can or doing whatever in the air and just throwing the ball down.
1. Dwight's off the back of the backboard.
2. The Birthday Cake
3. Moon 360
4. Green shoeless
5. Dwight off the backboard to himself
6. Green off the bounce
7. Moon from the FT Line
8. Rudy off the stanchion
9. Dwight's mini-basket
10. Rudy Left-handed windmill
11. Green's ladder-oop
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Shouldve been a do over i agree. But im thinking that he either threw it on purpose or couldve made it on a second try if they made him. Otherwise he wouldve took off from closer in or something.
Remember that on Moon's FT dunk at first he didnt get it right and basically laid in the ball and I was glad they changed it so that it the ball goes in it doesnt really count unless you dunk it. Id have no problem if they made Howard re-do his dunk. But we cant really fault him for the judges not making him do it over tho.
The whole Superman persona and literally lifting off of two feet like a super hero from that far lead to a great showing.
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
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Yeah, I've been arguing this point. But, I've given up, they're just too many people. You're not going convince all of them.
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
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He wasn't even coming close to doing so which is why the ball was thrown in to begin with. I can jump up from the free throw line and throw the ball downwards into the basket, did I just dunk the ball?
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| TXLAKERFAN wrote: |
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
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He wasn't even coming close to doing so which is why the ball was thrown in to begin with. I can jump up from the free throw line and throw the ball downwards into the basket, did I just dunk the ball? |
Yes, if you can do that. But, I doubt you can. What you're doing is jumping from the ft line and throwing it UP towards the basket.
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| TXLAKERFAN wrote: |
| One thing for sure the hype behind D. Howard is off the charts. |
And your hate for Howard is off the charts.  It's a dunk contest, it means nothing, it's all just for fun. Howards superman dunk was fun as hell to watch, so he technicaly didn't 'dunk' the ball, oh well.
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| I can jump up from the free throw line and throw the ball downwards into the basket, did I just dunk the ball? |
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| Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Weezy wrote: |
| TXLAKERFAN wrote: |
| One thing for sure the hype behind D. Howard is off the charts. |
And your hate for Howard is off the charts. It's a dunk contest, it means nothing, it's all just for fun. Howards superman dunk was fun as hell to watch, so he technicaly didn't 'dunk' the ball, oh well. |
I am not hating on D12, he is a very good player and I enjoy watching him play. I am hating on the hype of what I consider a non-dunk. Never knew debating a dunk would result in me hating a player. If you look in the other thread where you rate the dunks you will see one of his others as my #1 but I guess I'm hating on D12 right?
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| Yes, if you can do that. But, I doubt you can. What you're doing is jumping from the ft line and throwing it UP towards the basket. |
So its impossible for me to jump straight up at the free throw line and throw the basketball downwards towards the basket?
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| Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in. |
What being above the basket? The ball, my arm, my upper body?
I really doubt any other player would have gotten a pass for doing what D12 did during the "superman" last night during one of there dunk attempts because the hype was not behind them. I guess we all have our opinions on whats a dunk and whats not, but if what happened last night is the case, then that is possibly the worst thing to have happened in the dunk contest as it could spur copycatters in whih it would be interesting to see everyones reaction. Either way it was fun to watch and I am done with this discussion in all threads.
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| TXLAKERFAN wrote: |
| One thing for sure the hype behind D. Howard is off the charts. |
And your hate for Howard is off the charts. It's a dunk contest, it means nothing, it's all just for fun. Howards superman dunk was fun as hell to watch, so he technicaly didn't 'dunk' the ball, oh well. |
I'm just messing with you TX, that's why I laughed, probably shoulda put a wink or something. My point was it's all in fun and I don't think you're truly upset over his dunk counting even though it technically wasn't a dunk.
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
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Most importantly is WHO CARES if it's technically a dunk or not? It was incredible! What he did was so amazing that it will never have a category that can define it.
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| What being above the basket? The ball, my arm, my upper body? |
Hand and ball. "Laying it in," so to speak. It's not a shot and it's not a tip-in. I consider "throwing it down" to be the one requirement of a dunk, regardless of whether a player physically touches the rim.
In Dwight's case, nobody could tell he didn't touch the rim because he slammed it through with such force that it looked like he did. A dunk is a dunk; rim-touching optional.
And outside of maybe Vince Carter's dunk in the Olympics or that insane J-Rich one from a few years back, that was the single greatest dunk I think I've ever seen.
I will write a thesis paper on this if I have to: that was an effing dunk.
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Slightly disappointing dunk contest. Howard was great, but the others were disappointing. And I absolutely hate it how Magic and Kenny every freaking year start yelling "the dunk contest is now back!!!". If it really were back, why are you guys yelling this bs each year? It sounds forced and unecessary, almost scripted in a Sternbot kind of way.
Best dunk of the night was Howards tip off the backboard dunk, which was just craaazy. Much better than the Superman dunk, which is highly overrated IMO. He mistimed his jump on that one and only threw it in because he had no chance at reaching the rim. |
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The fact is dwight howards superman "dunk" wasnt a dunk. He threw it in which means its not a dunk. Was it absolutely amazing and unbelievable... yes. I wish he dunked it , i know he could have.
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| The fact is dwight howards superman "dunk" wasnt a dunk. He threw it in which means its not a dunk. Was it absolutely amazing and unbelievable... yes. I wish he dunked it , i know he could have. |
But now we come around the the ongoing question...Is it required for you to touch the rim in order to be considered a dunk?
People on here keep on insinuating the fact that they can do what D12 did. The fact of the matter is he was far above the basket as in where his body was; not his hand, not his head, but his body.
He threw it down. plain and simple. Awesome dunk.
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| TheZen wrote: |
| No Scope wrote: |
| The fact is dwight howards superman "dunk" wasnt a dunk. He threw it in which means its not a dunk. Was it absolutely amazing and unbelievable... yes. I wish he dunked it , i know he could have. |
But now we come around the the ongoing question...Is it required for you to touch the rim in order to be considered a dunk?
People on here keep on insinuating the fact that they can do what D12 did. The fact of the matter is he was far above the basket as in where his body was; not his hand, not his head, but his body.
He threw it down. plain and simple. Awesome dunk. |
Well something that works against that is that he wasn't even close to the rim. You need both to be considered a dunk.
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| the fact of the matter is Dwight didn't dunk the ball. He threw it in. That's not a dunk. |
I'm amazed at the movement of people attempting to argue this incredibly stupid idea. You don't have to touch the rim with your hand for it to be a dunk. Throwing the ball in from above the basket is what separates a dunk from a shot or a tip-in.
Dwight could've slammed it home if he wanted to, but what's so impressive about the dunk is that he didn't NEED to because he was that high above the basket.
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He wasn't even coming close to doing so which is why the ball was thrown in to begin with. I can jump up from the free throw line and throw the ball downwards into the basket, did I just dunk the ball? |
Yes, if you can do that. But, I doubt you can. What you're doing is jumping from the ft line and throwing it UP towards the basket. |
I don't get it either , so many facts have been given that proves it is a dunk yet people refuse to believe , I mean the DICTIONARY itself said that it IS A DUNK .based on the definition. |
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This is what i'm thinking.
Why bother cutting 2 guys form the contest?
let all participants dunk, show there 4 dunks.
and simply let the fans vote.
no need to cut gay and moon... cause green sucked in the 2nd half of the contest... i'm sure moon/gay would have done just as good.
and i'm sure howard would have easily "dunked"(touched the rim) from where he took off if he wanted to.
last year he did a windmill from just below the FT line. (his 1st dunk).
on this years dunk... he ran, planted and took off on 2 feet... meaning he was going for height, not length.
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