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JSM Clublakers Site Manager

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Defensive Assignments: Kobe on AI, Vlad on Melo |
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LA Times: The Lakers are leaning toward having Bryant guard Allen Iverson, who averaged 26.4 points a game. They are also planning to have Vladimir Radmanovic guard Carmelo Anthony, who averaged 25.7 points.
The harder defensive assignment might belong to Radmanovic, who earned his place in the starting lineup by making 41.5% of his three-point attempts while averaging 11.1 points over his last 16 games. One thing he isn't known for is intense defense.
Adding to the intrigue is that the Lakers aren't as familiar with Anthony's game this season for a slew of reasons.
The Lakers played the Nuggets only three times, one fewer than they played against most other West teams, and Anthony didn't finish two of those games. He was ejected midway through the fourth quarter of one of them for hitting Sasha Vujacic in the throat, and he left the other game midway through the second quarter because of a sprained ankle.
"It's definitely going to be challenging to guard somebody like Carmelo, but I'm ready for it," Radmanovic said. "I watched the tapes and I'm getting prepared for him. We'll see what happens out there." |
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nicehair911 Still Waiting For Ron

Joined: 11 Aug 2005 Posts: 10164 Location: Wit so much drama in da LBC it's kinda hard bein Snoop D-O double G
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Atleast he watched tapes and it sounds like he's taking it seriously. _________________
"Michael Jordan once said that there's a right way and wrong way to practice basketball. He said that it doesn't matter if you practice eight hours a day-if you're practicing the wrong way, all you're doing is getting really good at doing the wrong things"
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2k

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| nicehair911 wrote: |
| Atleast he watched tapes and it sounds like he's taking it seriously. |
Yup, I just hope he doesn't need a smackin the face to play seriously, as PJ and Shaw like to put it. |
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Heir

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2284 Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. _________________
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2k

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. |
Maybe he can tyson him up, throw him down to the floor and wait for him to retaliate and get suspended for the series.
Lets hope not, but melo isn't the cleanest bball player out there.. |
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Heir

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2284 Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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And of course we already know Kobe can defend Iverson. Just back off him enough to stop his penetration to the rim. But if if he tries to shoot the jumper, Kobe will use his length to discourage the shot. It'll lead to a lot of dribble and confusion on AI's part. But to free him up, I hope Denver doesn't run screen roll. _________________
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The LeBrons

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Heir wrote: |
| I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. |
Force him to take jumpers? Isn't that what he wants to do? _________________ “That was a trip. It felt great, though. I don’t got to worry about nobody poisoning my burger now. I can eat in peace.”
- Kobe, the NBA MVP |
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Heir

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2284 Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| 2k8kb24 wrote: |
| Heir wrote: |
| I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. |
Maybe he can tyson him up, throw him down to the floor and wait for him to retaliate and get suspended for the series.
Lets hope not, but melo isn't the cleanest bball player out there.. |
Not exactly what I had in mind as far as being physical, but hey, if it works.  _________________
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KBABPG

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| nicehair911 wrote: |
| Atleast he watched tapes and it sounds like he's taking it seriously. |
Seriouslyy |
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Massacre Clublakers Moderator

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Pleasantly surprised to hear Kobe will take on the task fo defending Iverson.
As for Vlad on Carmelo, I'm sure we all don't expect much. He did a good job on McGrady earlier this year, but I'm sure if he can at least keep up with Anthony, than we'll be good. I don't want him to get worn out to the point where his 3 ball is ineffective. _________________
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lunatic4jc

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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i can watch tapes of melo too.. you gotta walk the walk vlad.. step up baby! _________________
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Heir

Joined: 12 Aug 2007 Posts: 2284 Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| The LeBrons wrote: |
| Heir wrote: |
| I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. |
Force him to take jumpers? Isn't that what he wants to do? |
Against Vlad he'd probably prefer to take it to the rim since Vlad's lateral movement is nothing short of mediocre. _________________
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revgen HDTV/Multimedia Guru
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GinoDB

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Vlad can be great on defense when he tries hard , i think some of you will be pleasantly surprised |
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doggy dogg

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| 2k8kb24 wrote: |
| Heir wrote: |
| I think Vlad can surprise us in defending Melo. He's got a big body even though he doesn't use it. He can get physical with Melo and force him to take jumpers. He won't be able to post him up. |
Maybe he can tyson him up, throw him down to the floor and wait for him to retaliate and get suspended for the series.
Lets hope not, but melo isn't the cleanest bball player out there.. |
when did we become the Spurs?
Im happy about Kobe taking on AI. That might tire him a bit and effect him on offense, but with the way Denver play D that shloudnt be a problem. Vlad defending Melo might a bit a problem but ill roll with it for now. Im sure Phil has plan B and C. If nothing works Phil can always throw Newble in to gaurd Melo _________________ "I wasn't sure I could get up for that dunk...I felt like Luke Walton" - Kobe
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L4L Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 9233 Location: Trade Rumors Forum
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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If Vlad is a terrible failure, you can always bring in Ronny to match-up with K-Mart and use LO on Melo. Without Ariza, not sure what else you could try. Perhaps Sasha on AI and Kobe on Melo. _________________
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PG: Steve Nash, Stephon Marbury, Delonte West
SG: Ray Allen, Francisco Garcia, DeShawn Stevenson
SF: Paul Pierce, Shane Battier, Ruben Patterson
PF: Kevin Garnett, Kurt Thomas, Andray Blatche
C: Kendrick Perkins, Joel Przybilla, Rasho Nesterovic |
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halekulani

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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i dunno
last time i remember melo getting those easy buckets in the paint just b/c he's so good at using his size and body against kobe. i wouldn't want kobe to D melo too long. post defense is fatiguing on a guard, even the greatest of them. |
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kray28

Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 5113 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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Melo's jumper has been really off of late....he's not canning those turnarounds he used to hit with regularity anymore. His ankle is still sore and it's affecting his accuracy a lot. He'll still make buckets, but he's not the force he was when he was healthy.
Instead the real sparkplug for them has been Smith who's been hot from the perimeter and is also athletic enough to run the floor and also get to the rim. _________________ Basketball isn't part of life, it is life.
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The LeBrons

Joined: 05 Nov 2006 Posts: 3243 Location: ~~~~Los Angeles~~~~
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28 wrote: |
Melo's jumper has been really off of late....he's not canning those turnarounds he used to hit with regularity anymore. His ankle is still sore and it's affecting his accuracy a lot. He'll still make buckets, but he's not the force he was when he was healthy.
Instead the real sparkplug for them has been Smith who's been hot from the perimeter and is also athletic enough to run the floor and also get to the rim. |
Pssh, Sasha will have JR on lockdown.  _________________ “That was a trip. It felt great, though. I don’t got to worry about nobody poisoning my burger now. I can eat in peace.”
- Kobe, the NBA MVP |
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TIME

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thrilled that I won't have to endure AI blowing past Fish over and over again. Gimme some of the gold medal shut down D, Kobe! _________________ "All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree."
James Madison, at the Constitutional Convention, 1787 |
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nikomch
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey well if Vlad fails, at least we've got Sasha. He's bound to get Melo tossed in at least one of the games. |
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Lakerjones
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Now's the time I wish we had Ariza. Remember how he locked down on him after Iverson burned everyone else? That was pretty amazing for 6 ft. 7-8 guy. |
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UncLaker

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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WHERES Devean George when u need him  _________________ Mitch Kupchak,Bob McAdoo, James Worthy, Rick Fox.........
"that guy has the best NO PASS look in the game today"
"If ya dont practice Defense, You cant practice winning"
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Shadow

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. _________________
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LakerzDQ

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Shadow wrote: |
| Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. |
Newble can't defend him for long, Melo can easily score on smaller opponents |
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Kobe's Empire

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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as long as vlad stays in the game, his head in the game, and uses his length effectively, you can contain carmelo.
I don't think it is a good idea for Kobe to guard AI. He can shut him down easy, but we need his offense.
Kobe is better than anyone in the league at doing it two ways, but if the team is struggling offensively, then have sasha or fish or farmar chase him around. If the team is going good, have Kobe shut his arse down. _________________ Can't mess with a squad that got screwed out of 1 game in the finals and was 2 games away (technically should have been 1 game away) from an NBA title THAT ADDS THIS in 08-09
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lakerfreak3482000

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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The best way to "defend" melo is to make him play defense on rad.
Make melo have to run out there and defend the perimeter while Vlad gets to shoot and hopefully make his threes.
then on the other end, Vlad should use his long frame to make melo think twice about entering. |
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GinoDB

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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Shadow wrote: |
| Does Phil not know we have Ira Newble on the roster? Im not saying he is our answer to our prayers but he is an upgrade over Vlad Rad defensively. |
Newble will be used if Vlad doesn't work , Phil doesn't want to sacrifice the offense he gets from Vlad without at least giving Vlad a try at guarding Melo. |
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jazzy1
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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2 really bad ideas. Why risk Kobe getting foul trouble no one in the league draws as many petty touch fouls as AI he'll juke and fall down like Kobe sledged hammered him and its to the bench for Kobe. I'd do it late but not early. Have Fish and Farmar chase him around.
And Vlad will get eaten alive he needs to save the mental energy by just guarding Kmart and having Odom use his length challenging Melo's jumpers then have Luke off the bench guard him.
We're gonna have to score some points so I'd rather just get our buckets get the lead and then switch Kobe over on either Melo or AI depending on who's hot.. |
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two0one7

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Maybe it's just me but I seem to remembering Luke doing a pretty decent job on Melo. Well, at least better than Vlad. _________________
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