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Peja isn't hard to guard....you just have to stick with him and keep a body on him, and he becomes a complete non-factor.
I don't think he'll be a tough cover for Trevor. |
If Trevor put his mind into it and REALLY just stay with Peje ALL the time, Peja will not get more than 5-6 points...and even that is just if Peja gets lucky and the team works to create his shot.
Peja is just a spot up shooter and can't do anything offensively if a defender stays in front of him. The only chance for Peja to score is running a lot of screens for him and having Paul find him at the right moment after a screen...
Peja can't beat the statue of liberty off the dribble or rise up over a sleeping penguin.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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Peja isn't hard to guard....you just have to stick with him and keep a body on him, and he becomes a complete non-factor.
I don't think he'll be a tough cover for Trevor. |
i think it's a little more complicated than that
peja knows how to run without the ball, and when tyson and west set screens, those are pretty big bodies. |
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28 wrote: |
Peja isn't hard to guard....you just have to stick with him and keep a body on him, and he becomes a complete non-factor.
I don't think he'll be a tough cover for Trevor. |
i think it's a little more complicated than that
peja knows how to run without the ball, and when tyson and west set screens, those are pretty big bodies. |
Not to mention that my main problem is Trevor hasn't played in 3 months.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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I told y'all bout them Hornets.  |
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Mike Wilbon just made a great point on PTI. He brought up the phrase 'changing of the guard', and I think that's what this is. SA still can win and they still might, but we are still seeing the changing of the guard. Phoenix lost, Dallas lost, and SA is losing. The Hornets are winning, the Lakers are winning, the Jazz are up and coming and to me we're seeing a new shift in the West. I don't see any reason the Hornets and Lakers won't top the West next year too, just like when Phoenix came up and Dallas came up a few years ago they took over from the Lakers, the Kings, and some other teams. I think SA can change some stuff around Ginobli, Parker and Duncan and still be good, but we're seeing a shift in West power yet again.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
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kobethetruemvp
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
we will beat you dont worry.  |
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| SA is in legit trouble if they don't figure this out. I fully expect them to win the next 2 games though, they aren't the Mavs, they're smarter, tougher and just all around better. CP3 is just balling out of his mind though, he takes over the game with ridiculous ease. I'm absolutely amazed how quick this guy has progressed, he's gone from good to dominant in 3 years. He reads where passes are going for steals, he's fast as hell and can't really be stopped going to the hoop for floaters, he's a fantastic passer, he's pretty much got every weapon imaginable. If we advance to the WCF and the Hornets do as well that's going to be as hell of a tough series. |
Not trying to be a doomsdayer (sp?), but the Hornets are playing better ball right now than us and cause all sorts of matup problems with the Lakers. A big that can defend Pau, a dominant pg that can exploit Fisher's weak D (don't let game one fool you), a pf that is built a little like Odom in that he can board and run well, a sf that can shoot lights out that will be guarded by a desert tortise (Walton or Radman). We have an advantage at sg, a large one, but they matchup everywhere else REAL good. Their bench is stronger as well with Pargo and Bonzi. |
ok first of all, witht the expection of paul on fisher, our starters dominate theirs. plus, we will have ariza to guard stojakovic so don't worry. also, our bench is way deeper than their bench. all they have is pargo and maybe bonzi on a good day. just look at what happened the last time we played them. lastly, how can they be playing better than us when we're undefeated in the playoffs? |
OK, counting on a guy that hasn't played in 3 months to step into the WCF and lockdown one of the more gifted shooters in NBA history is asking A TON. So Ariza doesn't do much to make me feel better. We may have deeper bench, but they have two guys that can come in and score 20. Bonzi has always been a Laker killer IMO too.
And our starters don't dominate by any stretch. Chandler isn't the offensive player Pau is, but he's heads and tails above Pau on D. He's a DPOY candidate. Top 3 IMO. Odom dominates West?  West averaged 20 and 9 during the regular season and is averaging 22 ppg in the playoffs. |
odom is more versatile than west. odom can dribble like a point guard and post up like a center. and with the addition of pau, he finally became the pippen to kobe.
i'm not too sure about chandler also. he seems like he only does good when the opposing center doesn't put up resistance.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28 wrote: |
We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
NOH needs to worry about the Spurs because all they have done is hold serve the first two games (albeit with conviction). THe Lakers need to worry about Utah who isn't just going to roll over and let us walk over them. Either way come back when your team isn't winning then we may have something to talk about.
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| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28 wrote: |
We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
we layeth the smack down on you guys in our most recent meeting
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| MDI wrote: |
| cjjr72984 wrote: |
| kray28 wrote: |
We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
we layeth the smack down on you guys in our most recent meeting |
and the time before that pau got hurt so that didn't count.
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28 wrote: |
We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
Why are you editing my quotes? My emphasis was on the way we beat you twice this season.
Once was a 30pt butt beating in New Orleans when we still had Drew.
The second meeting was a few weeks ago with the MVP and the #1 seed on the line and if I remember correctly, we went up by another 30 pts before losing interest and letting the Hornets back into the game....well close enought o make it interesting before finally pulling away.
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I'm not gonna put it past the Spurs to make a stand and win a couple games. They are still the champions, but unless Pop figures out how to stop CP3, Spurs is gonna be fishing soon. Hornets basically gonna rush 2 defenders at Duncan all day long to make him give it up. And then run on the Spurs any time they can get with CP3 leading the showtime-esque break. CP3 is picking them apart in halfcourt like playing chess. Pick and roll, stutter, if Duncan comes up, throw up the lob to Chandler, if Duncan sits back, go for the layup or teardrop. And nobody can really help D either cuz they have Peja waiting in the corner moving without the ball over screens. If they try to double, then dump it to West for the midrange shot.
Like I said, Pop better figure this out quick. And Ginobilli is probably gonna be the center of it. Also, CP3 is not taking any of that Bowen BS, he's making a big drama everytime Bowen touches him. Smart, because now, Bowen is basically neutralized and getting ticky tack fouls on CP3 because refs are keyed in on that matchup problem.
I mean, Pop's last resort would be to try to start something like a fight. |
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| Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| kobethetruemvp wrote: |
| cjjr72984 wrote: |
| kray28 wrote: |
We beat you twice this season. |
Ummm ok, we beat the Lakers twice this season also. |
we will beat you dont worry. |
um yea, one game EARLY in the season and another WITHOUT Pau AND Bynum,
the games we won were
1 30 point win
and 1 where we were up by 30 then let you come back |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: |
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The Spurs cannot handle the Hornets.
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| The Spurs cannot handle the Hornets. |
So far they haven't been able to. But I think thats going to change once they start playing in SA |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The Spurs cannot handle the Hornets. |
So far they haven't been able to. But I think thats going to change once they start playing in SA |
Better root for the Spurs....to at least make it a series, because if the Hornets go up 3 and or sweep, it could mean less rest for the Lakers. At the same time, the Lakers need to take care of business in Utah...match the intensity.
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Yeah...actually i think we would want the Spurs to win the series..that mean it would have to atleast go to a game 6 and they woudl ahve to win 4 more games vs the hornets..and they already look tired..so by that time..they would be exhausted against the lakres
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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West never misses that jumper.
And, Duncan needs to do something in this series if they expect to win.
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Hornets up two at the half....let's see what happens in this third quarter. Each third quarter prior to this, the Hornets have hit the Spurs with an avalanche and pulled away.
It looks like the same pattern about to develop here.
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| No espn! don't torture me with this lady broadcaster! whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?! |
I'm not a sexist or anything, but damn she's bad. I'd rather have Shaq sit on me for the second half rather than to listen to her. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Spurs have been getting jobbed by Delaney and crew today.
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| No espn! don't torture me with this lady broadcaster! whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?! |
I'm not a sexist or anything, but damn she's bad. I'd rather have Shaq sit on me for the second half rather than to listen to her. |
You both are. She's no worse than the other idiots.
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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CP3 just pulled out the play of the day... damn.
This chick on ESPN commentating is fricken annoying.
Oh! <---that's her commentating when CP3 just made the play of the day with a And1. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I can't stand this boring [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] duo, and the female announcer has a lot to do with it. 100% Pure garbage, I thought they were going to get rid of these 4th string commentators now that we are in the second round. |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Spurs have been getting jobbed by Delaney and crew today. |
I see Stern doesn't want another ratings disaster  |
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Someone shoot this chick announcer before I shoot myself. |
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Chick sounds like a golf or tennis commentator, not NBA.
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