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 Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Knicks May Buy Stephon Marbury Out Or Trade Him This Summer |
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Knicks May Buy Stephon Marbury Out Or Trade Him This Summer
The Knicks are expected to shop Marbury’s expiring contract (worth $22 million) to teams looking for salary-cap relief this summer. If that fails, they could pursue a buyout. Team officials avoid talking about Marbury’s future, which is clearly an uncomfortable subject. Isiah Thomas, who acquired Marbury to great fanfare on Jan. 5, 2004, declined to talk about Marbury’s time with the team. |
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/sports/basketball/23knicks.html
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: Did Q-Rich Challenge Paul Pierce To Off-Court Fight? |
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Quentin Richardson never got his wish, as he said yesterday he did not see Paul Pierce in the locker-room area following their on-court verbal bout that led to their ejections in Monday's Knick loss at Madison Square Garden.
Richardson could be seen clearly mouthing repeatedly to Pierce, "Meet me out back," following the ejection, challenging him to a fight. Thomas will have that date circled, too, after he was incensed that House shouted at him in the closing moments after House's 3-pointer in front of the Knick bench put Boston up 20 points.
There's belief Pierce and Richardson have a history. Richardson, who stoked Boston's fire with disrespectful remarks in November, was tight-lipped yesterday.
Asked if he challenged Pierce to a fight, Richardson said, "I don't know what I was saying. It was exchange of words. Sometimes it happens in basketball." |
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01232008/sports/knicks/bad_blood_could_spill_to_beantown_637109.htm
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"I got a bad break with the calls," Pierce said after practice. "I didn't think I did anything to warrant a second technical. I guess jibber and jabber by 'Q' was overexaggerated and they decided to kick us both out." Pierce had 10 points and 7 assists in the Celtics' 109-93 victory, while Richardson went scoreless.
Asked what Richardson's issue was, Pierce said, "I have no idea what's going on in their locker room or the type of issues other players are having with me. It's hard to really pinpoint." Richardson declined to go into detail about the incident when questioned by reporters following Knicks practice yesterday. He said he and Pierce just had an "exchange of words," though he acknowledged that security had to keep them from getting near each other after they left the court.
Pierce acknowledged that because of their success, the Celtics are now a target and they can't afford to get caught up in the trash-talking. "It's a tough line," Pierce said. "You don't want to come off as being intimidated. In my case, I felt like I got intentionally fouled three times in a row. Teams are going to try to do that to us. We are a team that's not going to back down from anybody." |
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/01/23/pierce_says_ref_overreacted/
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| Im dont follow the Knick's that much, but I noticed that they win more games when their offense is run through Crawford. Does aynone know their winning percentage when Crawford is their leading scorer? |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Im dont follow the Knick's that much, but I noticed that they win more games when their offense is run through Crawford. Does aynone know their winning percentage when Crawford is their leading scorer? |
Too bad Crawford is as streaky as they come. He looks like MJ one day, and then can't hit the side of the barn door the next. If you are going to make him the #1 option, you are not going to be consistent because he jacks up way too many jump shots. |
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If you didn't already know, Isiah is a damn fool.
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Real GM: New York Daily News - Isiah Thomas is standing by his word that there are no real trade discussions involving the Knicks at present and that the team will not be making any deals prior to Feb. 21 trading deadline, the New York Daily News is reporting.
"I don't want to move anybody," he said before last night's game against the Warriors.
Two weeks ago, Thomas did try to orchestrate a deal with Milwaukee that would have sent Zach Randolph to the Bucks in exchange for several players, including Charlie Villanueva. The Knicks also have been looking to trade Jared Jeffries. |
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Isiah, you can't be serious.
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Real GM: New York Post - Isiah Thomas has finally admitted that the Knicks are no longer being built around Eddy Curry and Zach Randolp, and that he will inquire with New Jersey as to what it will take to land superstar point guard Jason Kidd, the New York Post is reporting.
According to The Post, Eddy Curry could be involved in a potential deal possibly along with Renaldo Balkman, whom the Nets like.
When asked if he wouldn't mind a trade, Curry laughed tellingly, then told The Post, "It's been tough, but I don't want to run from my problems. I had tough moments here but good moments here. Whenever [Thomas] says it's time for me to go, I go."
Asked if he feels Thomas is looking to deal him, Curry said, "Ask him." |
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Why the hell would Kidd want to go to NY when he's tired of the Nets because they suck? I know Kidd doesn't have a no trade clause, but if he heard he was going to NY I bet he'd take back what he said and say he loves NJ now.
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^ Not to mention they would then have 15 PGs. And make the record books for highest team salary for the same position, EVER!
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How on Earth did the Knicks blow this game?
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i have A LOT of respect for you key. MAD props to you for being such a true fan. i honestly can't imagine how it must feel to be a knicks fan right now more than ever. it seems absolutely disgusting, but even then, you remain loyal and optimistic. that is incredible.
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| How on Earth did the Knicks blow this game? |
They're the Knicks. Enough said. 
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Report: Ankle surgery will keep Knicks' Marbury out until next season.
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ESPN - After undergoing ankle surgery that turned out to be more complicated that initially thought, New York Knicks guard Stephon Marbury will miss the rest of the season according to a published report.
The surgery to remove bone spurs from Marbury's left ankle was expected to be a 30-minute procedure, according to the New York Post. But a source told the newspaper it turned out to be much more complicated and took Dr. William Hamilton two hours to perform the operation.
Marbury had originally said he would try to return this season. He had the same surgery when he played in Phoenix and was sidelined for most of the offseason.
The Knicks -- who have made it clear the surgery was Marbury's choice -- said it was successful.
Marbury had missed 17 games before his surgery, mostly after his father died in December, and was averaging a career-low 13.9 points. |
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man the knicks look so chubby and sluggish, richardson curry and randolph.. how does an NBA franchise let 3 players get so big?
I feel so bad for new york, seriously the 'mecca' has been waiting a good 8 years for a decent season :/
I remember when chris rock was interviewed at staples and said all he wants is 40 wins, he doesn't even care if they win 50%, just enough to get 8th seed.
what a [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] team.. I dont think they should blame isiah, blame their terrible players! minus david lee |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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man the knicks look so chubby and sluggish, richardson curry and randolph.. how does an NBA franchise let 3 players get so big?
I feel so bad for new york, seriously the 'mecca' has been waiting a good 8 years for a decent season :/
I remember when chris rock was interviewed at staples and said all he wants is 40 wins, he doesn't even care if they win 50%, just enough to get 8th seed.
what a [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] team.. I dont think they should blame isiah, blame their terrible players!minus david lee |
the reason those terrible players are there is because of isiah
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| i truly believe the knicks coulda been a good team, but they have too many players that demand/or need the ball in their hands in order to win. its just really bad. |
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Isiah has made some very good draft decisions, and has been able to make some lop-sided trades. Unfortunately, chemistry is something that hasn't developed since he's been there.
I am surprised that he's been there for this long. He'd be a perfect lead scout, but not so much as a GM/coach. |
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We mine as well bump this since D'Antoni is now part of the Knicks.
So with him on board, what do you think Walsh can try to do in order to improve the team?
1. Draft Mayo if still available. Though he's a shooting guard, I like him at point alongside Crawford. He should be able to run the ball like D'Antoni wants along with scoring.
2. Marbury has the ETO in his contract, so he's most likely gone. If he doesn't terminate it, then the Knicks can always deal his expiring contract to a team that needs financial help or a backup point.
3. All of the Knicks have three years or less on their contracts after this season. They could possibly trade Randolph if need be. I would personally look at trading Randolph for Kenyon Martin since Martin is a better fit for D'Antoni's offense and also a smarter basketball player. The Nuggets don't really need scoring but Randolph can replace A.I.'s production if he ends up getting traded.
Also, one of the these things that were lacking for the Nuggets this year was the lack of an inside presence who could provide offense. Randolph can take the burden off of Melo and make the Nuggets a more complete team.
4. If the Knicks can manage to trade Randolph, I would then keep Curry since he's the only option at center. He has two years left which isn't that bad from a financial standpoint.
5. The Knicks can look to relieve themselves of Jerome James (expiring), Malik Rose (expiring), and Jared Jefferies (three years), three guys who can't provide anything but garbage. I would try to package James and Jefferies or Rose and Jefferies to get a productive player (s).
If all goes well, the Knicks can set themselves up for a complete turnaround next season.
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| Radner wrote: |
We mine as well bump this since D'Antoni is now part of the Knicks.
So with him on board, what do you think Walsh can try to do in order to improve the team?
1. Draft Mayo if still available. Though he's a shooting guard, I like him at point alongside Crawford. He should be able to run the ball like D'Antoni wants along with scoring.
2. Marbury has the ETO in his contract, so he's most likely gone. If he doesn't terminate it, then the Knicks can always deal his expiring contract to a team that needs financial help or a backup point.
3. All of the Knicks have three years or less on their contracts after this season. They could possibly trade Randolph if need be. I would personally look at trading Randolph for Kenyon Martin since Martin is a better fit for D'Antoni's offense and also a smarter basketball player. The Nuggets don't really need scoring but Randolph can replace A.I.'s production if he ends up getting traded.
Also, one of the these things that were lacking for the Nuggets this year was the lack of an inside presence who could provide offense. Randolph can take the burden off of Melo and make the Nuggets a more complete team.
4. If the Knicks can manage to trade Randolph, I would then keep Curry since he's the only option at center. He has two years left which isn't that bad from a financial standpoint.
5. The Knicks can look to relieve themselves of Jerome James (expiring), Malik Rose (expiring), and Jared Jefferies (three years), three guys who can't provide anything but garbage. I would try to package James and Jefferies or Rose and Jefferies to get a productive player (s).
If all goes well, the Knicks can set themselves up for a complete turnaround next season. |
I agree with most of it.
Not sure who I'd draft if it came down to Beasley or May or Rose. I'd almost lean towards Beasley if they can trade Randolph.
I'd also keep Jeffries to give him a shot in the new offense. A faster pace should make him a bit more valuable.
Changes are coming, without a doubt though! |
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Knicks have to get lucky with the lottery to get Beasley or Rose.
Mayo is based on their current slot.
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