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Steez

Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 1405 Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Horry: Popovich Is Better Than Jackson |
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Robert Horry has enough championship experience to know what he's talking about when it comes to Hall of Fame coaches, and he believes Gregg Popovich is better than Phil Jackson, according to The San Antonio Express-News.
Three of Horry's seven championship rings came under Jackson in Los Angeles.
"Phil wouldn't yell at the top dogs," Horry said. "Pop will yell at the top dogs, just like he yells at the bottom dogs. That's the biggest key. And Pop preaches defense a little more than Phil."
"If you'd have given Pop all the talent Phil had, I think he'd have more rings than Phil," Horry added. |
LINK[/quote][/url] _________________ - Scuse me while I kiss the sky! |
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John3:16

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 15300 Location: Begging Mitch to trade O Freaking Dumb
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The Original 81

Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1502 Location: New York City
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry Mr. Horry, I love what you did for us, but please, shut your mouth.
Phil has three three-peats. Popovich can't even get one. People don't realize how hard it is to win 3 in a row. _________________ "Let me say one more thing about Kobe. He will be the best player in the history of the game. If he keeps doing what he's doing, there is no stopping him. He is that good." - Shaquille O'Neal in his autobiography, "Shaq Talks Back"
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lunatic4jc

Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 1460 Location: lakertown 818 chyeah
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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it's because horry is a bottom dog.. he's just mad that phil gave preferential treatment to the top dogs _________________
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Kobe's Empire

Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 3662 Location: La Crescenta/Glendale, California
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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well if shaq hadn't gotten so fat and accepted Kobe was going to be the man and should have been the man...like he did in Miami....then Kobe and Shaq would have stayed together and won so much more.
shaq basically did what the lakers wanted him to when he first left...pay cutt and lost weight...
it took drama and his stupid overly large ego to realize that.
parker gino and duncan are all selfless and have stayed in tact for so long.
it's not PJs fault Shaq decided to be a beached fat whale making 30 mill playing for less than half the season.
now PHX has that problem...fat Shaq makes 40 mill over 2 seasons and he hasn't played a full season since 2000. Congratulations.
moral of the story. Parker Duncan Ginobili are all selfess and made it a point ot stay togehter.
moral of the story 2: shaq was and is fat and was beyond over paid as a Laker, and stil is overpaid as a Sun and was as a member of the Heat. His ego was too large to make way for Kobe.
Kobe is on a different level and class from Wade. Imagine if Shaq had gotten in shape and taken a pay cut and made way for Kobe being "THE MAN". What a shame Shaquille O'Neal is and has been for sports.
His arrogance truly is an insult to people who think. Kudos to Bill Wlaton. _________________ Can't mess with a squad that got screwed out of 1 game in the finals and was 2 games away (technically should have been 1 game away) from an NBA title THAT ADDS THIS in 08-09
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SOAD Club-Dodgers.com Admin

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 13034 Location: Tujunga
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cram it, redcoat. _________________
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D1ZzY24

Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 916 Location: Santa Barbara, CA
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hitokiriheero
Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 503
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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it's true tho. they're both good coaches.
but when u're comparing stars like duncan and shaq you know u gotta treat them differently.
look at what yelling pat riley did to shaq. it made him better one year, but look what happened after that.
horry may think it, but coaching is a lot harder than it looks |
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kevinwiz

Joined: 05 Mar 2007 Posts: 1196 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| "Phil wouldn't yell at the top dogs," |
that's reasonable. it's true. phil is never mad at kobe, never blames him, if he has a game like game 4, its always the teammates' faults for deferring to him too much |
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Big Worm

Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 2913 Location: Don't worry bout that, Pat-Nah
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I gurantee you pop will never make a book throwing a former star of his under the bus.(not all of it was about kobe of course) _________________
"playin' with my money is like playin' with my emotions!" |
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kobethetruemvp

Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 1183 Location: Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think pop is better. |
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revgen HDTV/Multimedia Guru
Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 8973 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Tony Parker>Any of the 3-peat PG's
San Antonio Bench > 3-peat bench, especially the 2002 3-peat bench.
So Horry says that Pop would have won more rings if he had the talent that Phil had. The only players who were clearly better than the Spurs were Shaq and Kobe. Mark Madsen was Shaq's backup. Slava Medvendenko backed up Horry. Tracy Murray was our backup shooter. The 3-peat bench was decent in 2000, but substandard in 2001, and pitiful in 2002. I wish we could have had Michael Finely instead of Tracy Murray. _________________ Please Read the HDTV Media FAQ http://www.clublakers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51627
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halekulani

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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i think having shaq and kobe is a pretty big deal. i don't care what bench pop has, he doesn't have the talent that phil has. |
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revgen HDTV/Multimedia Guru
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SeasonTicketHolder
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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Robert Horry better read a newspaper or something...
Phil Jax = 3 different 3 peats
With teams full of characters - MJ, Pip, Rodman, Kobe, Shaq,
I almost want to say that with the emergence of Bynum and Gasol on the Lakers (along with Kobe) - Pop, Timmy D, Parker, and Ginobli have kissed the Larry O'Brien Trophy for the last time (unless of course, they are traded to the Lakers)
Then again...what else was Robert supposed to say..."uh, Phil Jackson is a better coach..."
Didn't he say the same thing about Rudy T and Phil though...
He's gotta tow the company line... |
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lakerfan2

Joined: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 2859
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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He's right. In terms of a player's perspective.
See: Game 4.
"They were hoping Kobe would bail them out."
At everyone elses perspective, 9 rings > 4 rings. _________________ BYNUM BRIGAAADDEEEEE!!!
"He(Bynum) was cradling a basketball as if he were holding an infant in his arm, 'I can't wait for this season.' " |
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halekulani

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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.
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since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars. |
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Ducasse1
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.
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since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars. |
Duncan is more than a top 60 player. He's the best power forward of all-time. The guy is top 10. |
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trbo823

Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Robert Horry has earned my respect. And I respect his opinion. _________________ LAKERS: We use Division and Conference championship banners as TOILET paper while other teams hangs them from their Rafters. |
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KareemTheGreat33

Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 1757 Location: Philippines
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.
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since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars. |
Duncan is more than a top 60 player. He's the best power forward of all-time. The guy is top 10. |
Name the Top 10. I'm not arguing, just curious. _________________ fortuna favet fortibus |
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revgen HDTV/Multimedia Guru
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| halekulani wrote: |
| revgen wrote: |
^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.
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since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars. |
Talent becomes additive when the talent on the floor dynamically impacts each other. Ginobli creates impact on the wing, Parker at the top of the key, and Duncan in the post. Their impact together creates the same if not better impact than having Shaq and Kobe on the court. Combine that with a much better roster of role players and the Spurs are way better equipped. _________________ Please Read the HDTV Media FAQ http://www.clublakers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51627
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Kwame's Cake

Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1346 Location: Kwame's Secret Basement
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: |
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In fairness to Horry, he won't say Phil is a better coach when you are playing for the Spurs, and still in the playoff hunt... _________________ The Kwame Brown Song - credit: kidvideo
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LkrsOvrMia

Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 3343 Location: "Sittin' on top of the world with my legs hanging free." -Dave Matthews
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Opinions are like arsholes, we've all got one and they often stink. _________________ "Why can't America realize that falling in love with Kobe doesn't mean breaking up with Michael?" Rick Reilly
Bryant, who will be representing Team USA for the first time, told Gasol: "Being that we lost this series, you (guys) have no chance at a gold medal. I ain't goin' 0 for 2, homie." |
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TheNotoriousBANG

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Horry is 100% right
Jackson always rode some players balls to title
He rode Jordan and Pippen's balls just like he rode Shaq and now he's riding Kobe.
He's like a pimp he just uses his best girl to get his milestones and respects.
he's a zen man, wtf does he know bout coaching he jus sideswith the best player all the time. |
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Armo Flava

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: |
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someone wants some attention. _________________ "i leave FLY dust on my haters when im passin em by"
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Startrex

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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on other news, it was reported that the late Auerbach won nine titles with the likes of kwame brown, smush, and jordan farmar. _________________ Purple and 24K Gold |
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A Rush
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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At least I can respect Pop as a man of integrity. I have very little respect for Phil, the back.-stabbing, conflict-avoiding wuss. I think he is a great coach but I can't respect him for the life of me.
Personally, if I had to choose, I'd prefer to have Pop coaching the Lakers. Not to say I'm dissatisfied with Phil in the big picture (though I do think he is well past his prime as a coach) but I would prefer Pop. What he lacks in offensive imagination, he makes up with defensive single-mindedness. |
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Joe_Blow
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Big Shot Rob has played in more playoff games than any other player, collected 7 rings under three coaches, and is easily better suited than any player on the planet to assess, from a player's perspective, the differences between PJ and Pop.
I'll take Rob's word as sincere. Yet, you can't say "if he had those players" without including "provided those players responded to yelling." _________________ B. Diddy on Drew: "That boy's gonna be a beast.'' |
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scissors

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| horry isn't gonna say phil jackson is the better coach when he is playing for pop right now. |
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Lqv2015

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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: |
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| Pop might be the better coach, but I'd never trade him for PJ. |
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