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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Horry: Popovich Is Better Than Jackson Reply with quote

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Robert Horry has enough championship experience to know what he's talking about when it comes to Hall of Fame coaches, and he believes Gregg Popovich is better than Phil Jackson, according to The San Antonio Express-News.

Three of Horry's seven championship rings came under Jackson in Los Angeles.

"Phil wouldn't yell at the top dogs," Horry said. "Pop will yell at the top dogs, just like he yells at the bottom dogs. That's the biggest key. And Pop preaches defense a little more than Phil."

"If you'd have given Pop all the talent Phil had, I think he'd have more rings than Phil," Horry added.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be true. Either way, they're both great coaches.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry Mr. Horry, I love what you did for us, but please, shut your mouth.

Phil has three three-peats. Popovich can't even get one. People don't realize how hard it is to win 3 in a row.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's because horry is a bottom dog.. he's just mad that phil gave preferential treatment to the top dogs
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if shaq hadn't gotten so fat and accepted Kobe was going to be the man and should have been the man...like he did in Miami....then Kobe and Shaq would have stayed together and won so much more.

shaq basically did what the lakers wanted him to when he first left...pay cutt and lost weight...

it took drama and his stupid overly large ego to realize that.

parker gino and duncan are all selfless and have stayed in tact for so long.

it's not PJs fault Shaq decided to be a beached fat whale making 30 mill playing for less than half the season.

now PHX has that problem...fat Shaq makes 40 mill over 2 seasons and he hasn't played a full season since 2000. Congratulations.

moral of the story. Parker Duncan Ginobili are all selfess and made it a point ot stay togehter.

moral of the story 2: shaq was and is fat and was beyond over paid as a Laker, and stil is overpaid as a Sun and was as a member of the Heat. His ego was too large to make way for Kobe.

Kobe is on a different level and class from Wade. Imagine if Shaq had gotten in shape and taken a pay cut and made way for Kobe being "THE MAN". What a shame Shaquille O'Neal is and has been for sports.

His arrogance truly is an insult to people who think. Kudos to Bill Wlaton.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cram it, redcoat.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.clublakers.com/forums/horry-pop-better-coach-than-phil-jackson-t95209.html man1
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's true tho. they're both good coaches.

but when u're comparing stars like duncan and shaq you know u gotta treat them differently.

look at what yelling pat riley did to shaq. it made him better one year, but look what happened after that.

horry may think it, but coaching is a lot harder than it looks
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Phil wouldn't yell at the top dogs,"

that's reasonable. it's true. phil is never mad at kobe, never blames him, if he has a game like game 4, its always the teammates' faults for deferring to him too much
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gurantee you pop will never make a book throwing a former star of his under the bus.(not all of it was about kobe of course)
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think pop is better.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Parker>Any of the 3-peat PG's
San Antonio Bench > 3-peat bench, especially the 2002 3-peat bench.

So Horry says that Pop would have won more rings if he had the talent that Phil had. The only players who were clearly better than the Spurs were Shaq and Kobe. Mark Madsen was Shaq's backup. Slava Medvendenko backed up Horry. Tracy Murray was our backup shooter. The 3-peat bench was decent in 2000, but substandard in 2001, and pitiful in 2002. I wish we could have had Michael Finely instead of Tracy Murray.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i think having shaq and kobe is a pretty big deal. i don't care what bench pop has, he doesn't have the talent that phil has.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.

Especially when they are surrounded with way better role players than what Shaq and Kobe had.

If Phil won those 3 titles with the 1998 Laker roster, then I could see Horry's point.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Horry better read a newspaper or something...

Phil Jax = 3 different 3 peats

With teams full of characters - MJ, Pip, Rodman, Kobe, Shaq,

I almost want to say that with the emergence of Bynum and Gasol on the Lakers (along with Kobe) - Pop, Timmy D, Parker, and Ginobli have kissed the Larry O'Brien Trophy for the last time (unless of course, they are traded to the Lakers)

Then again...what else was Robert supposed to say..."uh, Phil Jackson is a better coach..."

Didn't he say the same thing about Rudy T and Phil though...

He's gotta tow the company line...
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's right. In terms of a player's perspective.

See: Game 4.

"They were hoping Kobe would bail them out."

At everyone elses perspective, 9 rings > 4 rings.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

revgen wrote:
^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.


since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halekulani wrote:
revgen wrote:
^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.


since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars.


Duncan is more than a top 60 player. He's the best power forward of all-time. The guy is top 10.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert Horry has earned my respect. And I respect his opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ducasse1 wrote:
halekulani wrote:
revgen wrote:
^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.


since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars.


Duncan is more than a top 60 player. He's the best power forward of all-time. The guy is top 10.


Name the Top 10. I'm not arguing, just curious.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

halekulani wrote:
revgen wrote:
^Ginobli, Duncan, and Parker is a pretty big deal too.


since when did talent become additive?
having two top 50 players (jordan/pippen) or a top 50 and 60 player (shaq/kobe) of all time isn't the same as having a top 60 player and a few all-stars.


Talent becomes additive when the talent on the floor dynamically impacts each other. Ginobli creates impact on the wing, Parker at the top of the key, and Duncan in the post. Their impact together creates the same if not better impact than having Shaq and Kobe on the court. Combine that with a much better roster of role players and the Spurs are way better equipped.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fairness to Horry, he won't say Phil is a better coach when you are playing for the Spurs, and still in the playoff hunt...
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horry is 100% right

Jackson always rode some players balls to title
He rode Jordan and Pippen's balls just like he rode Shaq and now he's riding Kobe.

He's like a pimp he just uses his best girl to get his milestones and respects.

he's a zen man, wtf does he know bout coaching he jus sideswith the best player all the time.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone wants some attention. mhihi
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on other news, it was reported that the late Auerbach won nine titles with the likes of kwame brown, smush, and jordan farmar.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least I can respect Pop as a man of integrity. I have very little respect for Phil, the back.-stabbing, conflict-avoiding wuss. I think he is a great coach but I can't respect him for the life of me.

Personally, if I had to choose, I'd prefer to have Pop coaching the Lakers. Not to say I'm dissatisfied with Phil in the big picture (though I do think he is well past his prime as a coach) but I would prefer Pop. What he lacks in offensive imagination, he makes up with defensive single-mindedness.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Shot Rob has played in more playoff games than any other player, collected 7 rings under three coaches, and is easily better suited than any player on the planet to assess, from a player's perspective, the differences between PJ and Pop.

I'll take Rob's word as sincere. Yet, you can't say "if he had those players" without including "provided those players responded to yelling."
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

horry isn't gonna say phil jackson is the better coach when he is playing for pop right now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pop might be the better coach, but I'd never trade him for PJ.
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