Hate to say it, but LO will be traded

purple_reign · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 130

I think LO's values sky high right now, and with Bynum's rookie contract about to expire, LO will get traded. There is no way that Buss pays Kobe, Gasol, LO, and Bynum double digit salaries. Plus we need to pay Turiaf and Sasha this year.

With that being said, I think the logical trade would be with Orlando for Turkoglu. He is a SF that can score, is the same age as LO and is making a reasonable 6.8mil. Of course Orlando needs to add couple of expiring contracts like Dooling and Garrity to make this work. We should also ask for their #1 pick this year.

Orlando does this trade, because they have Lewis playing the PF position, which everyone knows he isn't. LO would dominate in the East at the PF position and with Howard, Lewis and LO, Orlando would have a dominant frontline.

Lakers make this trade because of the stuff I mentioned above. We will lose some of LO's playmaking skills, but Hedo is more of a offensive threat. He is a excellent 3 point shooter and has great ball handeling skills. Plus with the pick we get from Orlando we can pick up another frontcourt player to add even more depth. I would like to add another PF or C to shore up those two spots. We can take a skill PF like Jason Thompson from Rider or a Bull like Joey Dorsey. Or we can pick up Hibbert as insurance since we can't rely on Mihm to back up Bynum.

Our lineup next year:

PG: Fish/Farmar
SG: Kobe/Sasha
SF: Hedo/Ariza/Walton
PF: Gasol/Turiaf
C: Bynum/Hibbert

Radner · Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:

Dude, Orlando is not trading Hedo.

This year is by far the best season of his career. That said, I agree with the possibility of Lamar being traded.
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Armani · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 664

if i were the magic i would do odom for hedo...but they wont add more than that.
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purple_reign · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 130

Another possibilty would be to the Sonics.

LO for Collison, Jeff Green and their second round pick + expiring contracts to make the numbers work.

Collison will be a solid role player and a combination of Green and Ariza will be great for us at the SF position.

And with the second round pick we can get Richard Roby to learn from Kobe.

Seattle does this because they are a young team and will be getting younger this year when they pick up Beasley with the #2 pick. Their front line will be great for years to come.

Sonic's lineup:

PG: Ridnour/Watson
SG: Durant/Wilkins
SF: Beasley/Marshal
PF: Odom/Wilcox
C: Sene/Petro

We do this to get some quality players for Odom and to clear some space (Collison + Green's salaries total around 9 mil) so we can re-sign Turiaf and Sasha.

Lakers Lineup:

PG: Fish/Farmar
SG: Kobe/Sasha/Roby
SF: Green/Ariza/Walton/Radman
PF: Gasol/Turiaf/Collison
C: Bynum/Mihm/Mbenga

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Klewfish · Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:45 am Post subject:

I don't think the Lakers would trade Odom for Hedo. They don't need more offensive players, they need defense.

Shane Battier + Bobby Jackson + 2008 1st for Odom.

Houston's Lineup

Rafer/Brooks
McGrady/Head
Odom/Hayes
Scola/Landry
Yao/Mutumbo

Lakers

Fisher/Farmar/Jackson
Kobe/Sasha/Karl
Battier/Ariza/Luke
Gasol/Turiaf/Radman
Bynum/Mihm/MBenga
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neelio010 · Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 124

The only thing that i like from those options is LO for Hedo and there '08 first. This could help the lakers a lot and the Magic a lot. Yeah we don't need the offense but it does not hurt. We can also get a decent player in this years draft if they decide to give us the pick s well.

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LakerzDQ · Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 419

NONE of these trades are worth it.

Odom is doing ALOT for the team, he's our best rebounder besides Bynum, he's a GREAT passer who is opening things up for Pau, and he's driving to the rack, and scoring some points. he hustles, and dives for every lose ball, and he makes smart plays.

we don't need another scorer, and we don't need a declining defender. (Battier became better, but he's gonna go downhill soon again)

JSM · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject:

No way in hell the Magic trade Hedo for LO.

Hedo fits perfectly with their system, Odom doesn't.

Hedo is the 5th best 4th quarter scorer in the NBA.

He has serious range which is what they need with Dwight in the middle.
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strikemode14 · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject:

No way the lakers trade Odom for Hedo.

We basically get another horrid defensive player..no thanks.

However I think the Magic would do it. They let Lewis do his thing at the SF. Odom gives them some toughness inside at the PF. At this point Howard would do backflips seeing odom in a magic jersey.
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SignPippenNow · Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2106

Unless they get an offer they simply can't refuse, I think Lakers keep Odom and see how frontline does of Bynum, Odom and Gasol assuming Bynum is even back next year. I will believe he is back when I see him on the court. Another reason you can't trade Odom for a SF, you may need him at PF next year with Gasol at center if Andrew has to have surgery and injury is more severe than we were told. Not saying it is only IF......

netlordr23 · Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 766 Location: Alicante (Spain)

I thought we wanted to win champiionships, who are we going to get as good as Odom??

purple_reign · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 130

A lot of people don't take into account the business side of the NBA. Buss will not maintain a payroll close to 80 million dollars for next season. I am estimating 80 mil because most likely we will want to keep both Turiaf and Vujacic and their contracts are up at the end of this season.

Also, we will need to start negotiating a long term contract for Bynum as his contract will end at the end of the 2008/2009 season.

So we need to trade one of the big 4 (Kobe, Pau, Odom, Bynum) and out of that group LO seems like the odd man out. Only other option would be is if Mitch can work his magic and trade away Radman, Walton, and Mihm for expiring contracts and picks.

I would love to keep this team intact, but business dictates that most likely it won't happen. disagree

Satan · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:10 am Post subject:

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LakerzDQ · Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 419

well, we advanced to the WCF this year, I guess this counts as "deep"?

I would REALLY like to keep Odom, he's doing great right now, but I'm not the one paying the salaries.

NBA FAN · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 119

The NBA is a business above everything else. Trades are suggested for multiple reasons. One is to improve a team and another is to shed salary. The los Angeles Lakers will be over the Salary Cap (estimated at 58.5 million dollars for the 08/09 season) and most importantly the Luxury Tax Threshold (projected to be 71 million dollars for the 08/09 season). The lakers have $72,724,553 in guaranteed salary for the 08/09 Season. They also have free agents Ronny Turiaf, Sasha Vujacic, Coby Karl, DJ Mbenga, and Ira Newble. We need to keep in mind that whatever contract the front office signed any of our free agents to will cost DOUBLE the amount signed due to the Lakers being over the Luxury Tax threshold. Therefore Sasha getting 5 million is fine by all means but it will cost the Buss family 10 million a season; dollar for dollar penalty for going over the Threshold. The same goes for Turiaf. If he gets a 4 million contract next season, The Buss family will be paying 8 million for his services. Now all that set aside.

The front office is very shrewed in handling the financial side of the organization. That said I can completely understand the need to cut salary and trade the likes of Vladimir Radmonovic who commands a salary of $6,049,400, Luke Walton who commands a salary of $4,420,000 and/or Chris Mihm who also commands a salary of $2,500,000 next year strictly for cap relief. This will also help resign Trevor Ariza in 09/10 and set up a decent offseason situation in 09/10 when the Lakers have to extend Bynum. All this set a side The Lakers need to also look ahead to the contract situation with Lamar Odom to see whether he is willing to take a paycut to stay with the Lakers or not. This will not all be accomplished in one offseason. The Lakers need to plan ahead so that they will not be strapped financially when they make the commitment to the upcoming youth.

Once again this team is probably the best team in the NBA;barring no injury, and generally speaking, as the saying goes, "IF it aint broke, dont fix it." Unfortunately if it costs too much you have to take a second look to see if you can get the same efficient results with less resources/salary.

All in all I can see a Healthy Lakers team make a push for multiple championships for the next 4-6 seasons with the following roster:

Starting Five:
Gasol
Odom (After Paycut)
Ariza (Resigned)
Bryant
Fisher

Bench:
Bynum (Extended)
Turiaff (Resigned)
(It would be nice to get someone better than Luke & VladRad)
Vujacic (Resigned)
Farmar

Reserve:
1-3 Veteran's Minimum Players

Key note:
No MLE signings unless salary is reduced in some other way.

FINAL NOTE:
All this would be of no significance if the BUSS family is willing to host the price tag of the NEW YORK Knicks.

Luxury Tax and Salary Cap Prediction for 08/09 Season:
http://realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=789080&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=876ab52bf83e60cc33fd72c3f4adfe86

Lakers Salary for 08/09 Season:
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/la_lakers.htm

Lakerboichris · Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 26 Location: London - England

i hope the buss family can afford a knicks type salary, because its going to be hard to keep our big 3 especially with kobe's salary increasing each year, and with our young guys getting more money we could defenitly be looking at knick type salary
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NBA FAN · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 119

Now I will respond to the Hedo Suggestion above. I completely dislike that trade. Fist of all Hedo is a Shooting Gard. His best position is Bryant's Position. Now even if he was not a shooting gard which he is, he would be the fourth SF in the lakers rotation who still does not play defense. Last time I checked the lakers have no problem offensively.

I would really like to see someone in the mold of PRINCE, GRANGER, DENG, NOCIONI, and OUTLAW.

Other less desirable SF's would be MARION (ego/contract), BATTIER (he is old), JOSH HOWARD (I do not like his character issues), RICHARD JEFFERSON (big contract), CRASH (no 3 range/health), JOSH SMITH (PIPE/ no 3 range), ARTEST (my opinion; ego problem/character issues), and Kirilenko (ego, character issues/questionable 3 range & health).

If the lakers trade Walton, Radmonovic, and/or Mihm I can see them net an outlaw or a Nocioni if they throw in a pick.

If the lakers discuss odom, I would endorse and can see them netting the likes of DENG and PRINCE.

I read a suggestion on a pistons board suggesting a PRINCE & MCDYESS for ODOM (this was suggested by pistons fans on the pistons forum on realgm but i am having trouble finding the link); I would even include a 1st round pick if need be; although they were willing to throw in a 1st round pick to make it happen in their discussion as well. Mcdyess would expire shedding 6-7 mil off the laker's payroll and would give the lakers legitimate starting SF.

The lakers would then try to unload Walton OR VladRAD and Mihm for expirings. This will shed roughly 13-15 million if you include McDyess. This will give the lakers the cap flexibility needed to sign Bynum

SignPippenNow · Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2106

It isn't certain they trade Odom because of money. Think about it. No matter what they do with Bynum's contract, it doesn't go into effect next year. Odom is an expiring K. If it is a money deal and they trade him, they have to bring salary back. If they feel they have enough SF's in place (Radman, Walton and Ariza) they may just let Odom play out next season, offer him a smaller contract (8-10 million range) and if he takes it fine and if not he walks but Lakers don't have to add salary. If he walks Lakers still have midlevel left to help replace him.

LakersFan1211 · Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject:

Yes, hopefully we get a good depth on the 3 if Odom gets traded.

mapabu1 · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 2373

You don't let Odom walk you give try to resign him or you trade him. No need in letting him walk for nothing