Rumors: Everyone Waiting On Brand

last stand · Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 2051

i agree emplay you convinced me

so now i am holding out for

artest
posey
Q-ross-who i have watched and he has nice skills on D but his range isn't very good outside of mid-range

LTD · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 48

So, the Clips are willing to possibly lose Brand because they don't want to go over the cap? I mean, how in the world can you be in a bidding war when you have his bird rights?

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think Brand is just "playing it off" because IMO it's obvious that there was some behind the scenes discussions about baron Davis coming to LA. Brand talked about watching Boston and how that influenced him, and now he wants us to believe that he's really considering GS where the coach is on record as saying that he's going to play the young guys even if it means losing extra games? Please. Brand will be a Clipper next year.

hollywood swinger · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:31 am Post subject:

Vidball · Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 64 Location: Saint Louis

Maggette isn't a perfect fit, but I would way rather have him in P&G than Sasha. Maggette shot over 38% from 3 last season, he's a proven scorer, a decent rebounder, he's good at cleaning up trash around the rim, he's great at running lanes, and the best thing is he is as good as anybody in the entire league at getting to the line. He average 10 FT a game--thats more than even Kobe. He won't get to the line as much as a Laker, but with Maggette, Kobe, Bynum & Gasol on the court they will all get the opposing team in horrible foul trouble.

Also, if he doesn't come to L.A. he'll probably be going to Boston or S.A.--the two best defensive teams in the league. I don't want to see either of those teams with Maggette. He is one of the most underrated offensive players in the game.

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

LTD - I think you've misundersood the facts. They can only give Brand so much in the first year and still have room for Baron - it's not a "want" thing - it's 100% a "legal" thing. If they are over the cap - they can't give more than the MLE to Baron.

Where the Clippers have the advantage is their raises are 10.5% compared to 8% from GST. LA can trump all offers though with a 6th year.

Podium · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 5013

LTD · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 48

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

LTD · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 48

So right now, what is their salary cap number?

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

technicalyy way over the cap - just read my article - i already broke it down

Podium · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 04 May 2006 Posts: 5013

iggypop123 · Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 205

if sasha leaves for money which if he gets full mle i would not mind him leaving since he isnt worth that much, is barry the choice to replace him? he can shoot 3 well over 40% and can handle the ball.

kray28 · Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 5036 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

LakersFan1211 · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject:

I'd take Maggette over Posey anyday if we got a chance on either one of em. jam2

kobeskater9 · Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject:

does anyone know a timetable, or a date when Brand's going to make a decision.
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emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

he'll wait to make his decision til at least Wed

I don't think there's any chance Zo comes - or that LA asks Zo to come

hollywood swinger · Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject:

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

1) clippers are over the cap
2) signing brand they are still over the cap
3) renouncing maggette they get under the cap by a large margin
4) baron can sign for the cap room available
5) baron cannot sign if Brand is either unsigned or not renounced
6) clippers can't have cap room and do a S&T - unless they do a S&T to a team with cap room and get no salary back in return. Such a S&T would have to be done before Baron signs.

Jajwa · Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 2160

I get the feeling that Maggs is waiting to see if Brand re-signs. If he doesn't he has plenty of cap room to get a ten million dollar offer to re-join the Clippers. The Clippers' weakness will then shift to PF as PG, SG, SF, and C will have solid players.

Even though you disagree Emplay I still think Odom would be a fair fit on that team. Outside of him though I expect a possible candidate to pop up eventually.

hollywood swinger · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:09 am Post subject:

hollywood swinger · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:16 am Post subject:

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

Odom/Clippers bad blood = leg-end-dary

basically they didn't say goodbye to Maggette yet - but if Baron and Brand goes through - that's all she wrote for Corey with the Clippers - see ya

it's not that they wouldn't want to re-sign him or S&T him - it's that legally there's no way to do it unless they dump out other salary to a team with cap - like Mobley or Tim Thomas, etc - ain't happening.

Lakers would like to move one of Luke/Vlad - more Luke because at least Vlad can be an asset with his shot.

Wishful thinking though - not a lot of suitors as of now.

Teams are mostly looking at free agency - not trades to improve. Once the names land - and their team starts to take shape (and weaknesses are clear) - then trades resume.

Also - some trades happen with FA go the S&T route - but those take awhile.

hollywood swinger · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:58 am Post subject:

emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

no not publicly - not a "very" weak link, no.

there's some redundancy in the lineup is all

hollywood swinger · Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:09 pm Post subject:

if somehow riley could give a favor & we could trade luke for marcus banks and scraps to match salaries.
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emplay · Clublakers Analyst Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 2791

problem there - miami has no one to run the point