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Larry14r
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 884
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: Well Dunon is off the market, but Marbury might be on it |
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After four years with the Bulls, point guard Chris Duhon is moving on, verbally agreeing to a deal with the Knicks on Friday, according to Duhon and his agent, Kevin Bradbury.
Bradbury could not comment on the terms of the deal. But a source said it was a major commitment on the part of the Knicks -- a two-year deal starting at the full mid-level exception. The value of the mid-level exception will be announced on July 9 (when contracts can officially be signed) but it's expected to be about $5.8 million, making Duhon's total contract worth around $12 million.
"I am just excited, I am ready to get to work for the Knicks," Duhon said. "It's a big stage, playing in New York. It's something every player in the NBA wants."
Duhon met with the Knicks on the first day of free agency. Making Duhon their first free-agent meeting was a clear indication that the new Knicks brass -- general manager Donnie Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni -- was committed to making him their point guard. Duhon also met with the Magic on Wednesday, and was receiving interest from other teams. But the Knicks' willingness to offer their full mid-level slot showed they wanted Duhon.
"Chris could have shopped himself around more, but in the end, he wanted a fit where he felt comfortable and he knew what kind of opportunity he would be getting," Bradbury said. "He wasn't worried about trying to find more money on the market or anything like that. He wanted the right situation, and this just felt like the right situation."
The Knicks surely need Duhon, the best point guard now available on the unrestricted free-agent market. The team is expected to release point guard Stephon Marbury this summer. Even with Marbury, New York ranked last in the league in assists, and ranked 27th in 3-point shooting (33.7 percent).
Duhon averaged 6.9 points in his career with Chicago, but was mostly asked to be a defender and a ball distributor, taking open 3-pointers when they presented themselves. He averaged 4.5 assists in his Bulls career, against just 1.37 turnovers. More than half his shots with Chicago were 3s, and he made 35.6 percent of them.
Duhon had been liked by ex-Bulls coach Scott Skiles, who plugged him into various roles throughout his Chicago career. Typically, the team would try to make undersized guard Ben Gordon a starter early in the year, then give up on that idea, moving Gordon back to the bench in favor of Duhon's height and better defense. Duhon played 300 games for the Bulls, and 159 of them as a starter.
The opportunity to play for D'Antoni, maestro of the Suns' up-tempo offense before coming to the Knicks, was a major appeal for Duhon. "You know he is going to want to run and push the ball," Duhon said. "I feel, with the opportunity, I can do that. Really, I can't wait to get started."
He'll be starting on a long, daunting road, of course. The Knicks haven't finished over .500 since their magical Finals run in 2001. But the team drafted highly regarded forward Danilo Gallinari last week, and now, Walsh and D'Antoni are hoping that Duhon can play a key role in getting the team back into postseason contention.
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So does anyone want to take a chance on Stephen Marbury as out PG for the min. |
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Jajwa
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| For the minimum, eh maybe... |
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iggypop123

Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 207
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| we dont need marburys expiring contract. some team that wants in the lebron sweepstakes should go after him |
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John3:16

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 15324 Location: Begging Mitch to trade O Freaking Dumb
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LakersFan1211

Joined: 30 May 2008 Posts: 936 Location: Born in LA, Raised in Cowtown. -.-
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| No thanks. |
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puffyusaf#2
Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 5440 Location: Chasing the dream to an Oscar
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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HELL NO _________________ I "act" for free they pay me to wait. |
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SignPippenNow
Joined: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 2266
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| There is around a Marbury post each week on here. Why would anyone want Marbury? He is a cancer and can't play in New York, why would anyone want to bring him to LA? I wouldn't bring him here if NY paid his entire contract. |
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Larry14r
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 884
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| SignPippenNow wrote: |
| There is around a Marbury post each week on here. Why would anyone want Marbury? He is a cancer and can't play in New York, why would anyone want to bring him to LA? I wouldn't bring him here if NY paid his entire contract. |
That's the idea because the Knicks are going to just release him as soon as Dunon is signed, and the fact that most of the people here said that we need help at PG. |
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Kobe>Jordan

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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| John3:16 wrote: |
| Marbury? uhhhh........ NO! |
_________________ Mark Jackson-"My statement [last season] was that at the end of the day Kobe will be considered better.
If there was a draft of all-time greats and you took Michael Jordan and I was left with Kobe Bryant - in the past, I would be upset about not having the No. 1 pick, but today, realizing how good this kid is, I'm not upset at all about having Kobe Bryant as my starting two." |
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CrazyLikeCatfish

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Pig Miller
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:06 am Post subject: |
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normally, i would say F you starbury
BUT....
can we unload any of our bad contracts and maybe throw ina pick or two to sweeeten the pot? |
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Savage1

Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 1506 Location: NY
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Pig Miller wrote: |
normally, i would say F you starbury
BUT....
can we unload any of our bad contracts and maybe throw ina pick or two to sweeeten the pot? |
Probably not. They are probably going to buy out/waive him, and he is an expiring contract this year. NY's trying to create cap space by the year that LeBrons and Wade are going to hit the market. They don't want/need Walton/Radman/whomever. _________________
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LakersN4
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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For the min why not.
He's another nutcase.. He might just want to prove his old team wrong bad enough to come to LA & play the ball of his life.
The guy is an elite PG.. But he's just not strong mentally.. & that situation in NY put him in meltdown mode.. I'm sure it would happen to alot of players..
He's always been a below average defender but not any worse than farmar.. & with the pressure to score off of his shoulders he could surprise all of us..
Both of our PG's are terrible at penetrating & getting to the rack.. Steph would certainly add a new dynamic to arguably our weakest position |
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SignPippenNow
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| There was a few posts about bringing back Smush Parker in a trade deadline thread last year, this is about like that. As with drugs and Marbury and Smush,, just say No. There is a reason every team Marbury has left has gotten better after he left. He shouldn't take 1 minute away from Farmar or Fisher. |
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SWOL Separated at Birth: Ron Artest

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 12963 Location: Buena Park CA
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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ID RATHER HAVE MY HEAD SHOVED INTO A GIANT PENCIL SHARPENER _________________
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last stand
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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thats right i never thought of that
screw just signing him for the minimum
hell lets send
luke, vlad, mihm to new york for stephon |
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lakerman24
Joined: 19 Jun 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| LakersN4 wrote: |
For the min why not.
He's another nutcase.. He might just want to prove his old team wrong bad enough to come to LA & play the ball of his life.
The guy is an elite PG.. But he's just not strong mentally.. & that situation in NY put him in meltdown mode.. I'm sure it would happen to alot of players..
He's always been a below average defender but not any worse than farmar.. & with the pressure to score off of his shoulders he could surprise all of us..
Both of our PG's are terrible at penetrating & getting to the rack.. Steph would certainly add a new dynamic to arguably our weakest position |
We don't need a point guard we need a small forward that plays defense
that can hit the 3 point shot and hit the midrange. |
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last stand
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| LakersN4 wrote: |
For the min why not.
He's another nutcase.. He might just want to prove his old team wrong bad enough to come to LA & play the ball of his life.
The guy is an elite PG.. But he's just not strong mentally.. & that situation in NY put him in meltdown mode.. I'm sure it would happen to alot of players..
He's always been a below average defender but not any worse than farmar.. & with the pressure to score off of his shoulders he could surprise all of us..
Both of our PG's are terrible at penetrating & getting to the rack.. Steph would certainly add a new dynamic to arguably our weakest position |
We don't need a point guard we need a small forward that plays defense
that can hit the 3 point shot and hit the midrange. |
obviously but at the vet min he doesn't block that from happening
if you sign posey to the MLE and marbury to the vet min and kurt thomas to the BAE
then move lamar to the bench we look pretty nasty
andrew/ thomas
pau/ lamar
posey/ ariza
kobe/ sasha
marbury/ fisher
that is a talented team right there |
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Armani

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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i wouldnt take him if he offered to play with us for absolutely FREE _________________
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Savage1

Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 1506 Location: NY
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| last stand wrote: |
thats right i never thought of that
screw just signing him for the minimum
hell lets send
luke, vlad, mihm to new york for stephon |
Unless any of those guys have team options for the year that LeBron or Wade hit the free agent market, it's not going to happen.
There's a reason why Duhon got a bloated, but short contract. They aren't offering anything, or willing to take anything back, unless the contract expires soon. _________________
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SignPippenNow
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| last stand, thank God you aren't Mitch Kupchak |
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Jajwa
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| At least he suggests ideas that are realistic. The rest of this board is in la-la Land. |
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ElginTheGreat

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Jajwa wrote: |
| At least he suggests ideas that are realistic. The rest of this board is in la-la Land. |
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Savage1

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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Jajwa wrote: |
| At least he suggests ideas that are realistic. The rest of this board is in la-la Land. |
I agree, for the most part.
That trade, with the way that NYK are operating now, is unrealistic, but nothing against laststand as a poster. I've seen far worse in any trade idea involving Artest, Jermaine O'Neal, etc. _________________
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Kwame's Cake

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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I'll take him for cheap... definitely a huge upgrade over D-fish and Farmar...
Hey, If I were playing for the Knicks and my frontcourt are Curry / Zach (both fat + no D), gets to hang out with the likes of Nate, Crawford, Jerome James and Q-rich, then your coach is Isiah, I'd go nuts too...
Phil can control him, look at Rider... _________________ The Kwame Brown Song - credit: kidvideo
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SignPippenNow
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Yeah it is realistic to think Mitch would take Marbury. There is a better chance of Posey playing free for a year here than Mitch being interested in that bum Marbury and there is no chance Posey will play free. If you want realistic ideas, think possibly Miami with Marbury. Also benching Odom and Fisher and starting Marbury would be very brilliant, but at least it is realistic.  |
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Jajwa
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| It's feasible. It's possible that the Lakers could sign Marbury. Unlike the idea of sending Luke Walton to Sacramento. |
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SignPippenNow
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah I will refresh this board daily to see when the stud Marbury is signed. That should push the Lakers over the top. He did so much for the Suns and Knicks. |
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mapabu1
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| No chance in hell he ends in a laker uniform |
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SignPippenNow
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| absolutely, zero chance in hell. The guy is an overpaid bum who is a clubhouse cancer to boot. I doubt Mitch or Phil would want him anywhere near this team if he was free. |
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