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JORDANDREW
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 58 Location: Carson/Long Beach
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: IDEA: Odom for Deng? |
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| Is it possible? Deng is a RFA and while Odom has a big contract, he still has value(expiring contract). If Deng doesn't want to resign with the Bulls, would he be a nice fit on the starting 5? |
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Jajwa
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| He has no three point shot whatsoever. |
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Armani

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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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bulls wont do it. _________________
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Kobe>Jordan

Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 179 Location: giggling at the concept of patriotic and laughing at heroic
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Armani wrote: |
| bulls wont do it. |
_________________ Mark Jackson-"My statement [last season] was that at the end of the day Kobe will be considered better.
If there was a draft of all-time greats and you took Michael Jordan and I was left with Kobe Bryant - in the past, I would be upset about not having the No. 1 pick, but today, realizing how good this kid is, I'm not upset at all about having Kobe Bryant as my starting two." |
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khmrP

Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 611
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL  |
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sleepin4matty
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Jajwa wrote: |
| He has no three point shot whatsoever. |
You think Deng would be worth ~$14M expiring contract? He would have to be S&T and it would get all complicated w/ the BYC issues. I doubt CHI would do Odom for Deng straight up let alone Odom for Deng AND someone else as salary cap filler unless they try to pawn off Ben Wallace's...oh wait someone else was stupid enough to take that. |
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sleepin4matty
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 874
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| khmrP wrote: |
Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL  |
I'll take it. |
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jimbo327
Joined: 05 Aug 2003 Posts: 10272 Location: Where Else?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| This would be hilarious and ironic. |
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pureuncut100
Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 876
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:53 am Post subject: |
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If Chicago cant sign Deng or think they will lose him, I dont see why they wouldnt trade for Odom (who they like) and his expiring contract. I dont know if the Lakers would do it though. Deng will want a long term deal and given Bynum has to get paid, I dont think we bring in that salary.
I made a post about this but Radmanovic and Waltons contracts are killers. They are both long term and impossible to dump.
Hinrich/noic/thomas for Odom/Farmar/Mihm is fair and I think Chicago would definitely condsider it. THis deal works for both teams. This deal fulfills needs. Great trade proposal. |
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indeed
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 114
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:56 am Post subject: |
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we wish. getting the far better player in a deal is always the better thing.
Deng>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LO |
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therealdeal
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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im gettin a little tired of the Odom bashing. regardless of what people tend to think, Lamar did a great job helping our team to the finals. His slashing ability is fantastic when used effectively. Im not against trading him but when you say things like deng is better than odom your not giving him nearly enough credit. Odom's defense is admitedly not amazing and at times pretty disappointing, but his offense and his length make him a solid B player at least.
i dont mind the trade, it wont happen, but i dont mind it, im just trying to stand up for odom since it seems like no one else will |
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L4L Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 9226 Location: Trade Rumors Forum
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Deng is worth more than Odom even after his meteoric drop in value last season. _________________
All-NBA Challenge Roster:
PG: Steve Nash, Stephon Marbury, Delonte West
SG: Ray Allen, Francisco Garcia, DeShawn Stevenson
SF: Paul Pierce, Shane Battier, Ruben Patterson
PF: Kevin Garnett, Kurt Thomas, Andray Blatche
C: Kendrick Perkins, Joel Przybilla, Rasho Nesterovic |
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Bilbao-LakerMagic

Joined: 07 May 2005 Posts: 159
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: There are rumors but... |
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I would love to get Luol Deng, as I said in other post in my opinion Lamar Odom is more valuable than a lot trade proposals read as: Kirk Hirnrich, David Lee, Shane Battier... and even than Ron Artest (in my opinion). But Luol Deng is young, athletic... I think that he would be a great addition, he is not a shooter but... you have Radamanovic and... Vujacic? for that mission in the team.
Anyway, still I think that we need a good point-guard in the team...
I read a rumor in a Spanish sport newspaper - MARCA - (but now that Pau Gasol is playing for Lakers this newspaper talks about a lot of trade with Lakers... more in a fan way than in a realistic way I think), this is the link:
http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/baloncesto/nba/es/desarrollo/1149623.html
Go Lakers !! |
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LakersN4
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 511
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| khmrP wrote: |
Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL  |
I would do that also. Hinrich/Deng for Odom/whoever they want would be the ideal move.. But that package is also great for us.
Tyrus is a cheaper, better replacement for Ronny.. Nocioni is like Vlade's shooting with Ariza's D.. Not as good of a slasher as Ariza but better than Vlade. Perfect fit at the 3 for us IMO. & then there's Hinrich.. I don't think there's a better triangle PG in the nba today.. Tall, good passer, good 3 point shot, can penetrate, high bball IQ, good defender.. Plus his height allows him to play some backup 2 if we lose Sasha. I think Phil would absolutely love this deal.
It would also make it easier to get rid of Vlade with Noc replacing his 3's.. Sign Kwame & trade Vlade for a future 2nd.
Hinrich/Fisher
Kobe/Sasha
Noc/Ariza/Luke
Pau/TT
Bynum/Kwame
Very very balanced team.. I would absolutely love it |
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therealdeal
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 325
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: |
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i wouldnt call Kwame part of a balanced team...hes a pretty weak link in that lineup
besides im pretty sure theres no way hes coming back to play for the Lakers, why would he want to? after the way we basically kicked him out?
no, itd be better if you looked for a better backup C |
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LakersN4
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 511
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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i wouldnt call Kwame part of a balanced team...hes a pretty weak link in that lineup
besides im pretty sure theres no way hes coming back to play for the Lakers, why would he want to? after the way we basically kicked him out?
no, itd be better if you looked for a better backup C |
Part of being a balanced team is playing defense. Something not many centers in the NBA do better than Kwame.
& what better C's are out there that we could sign? Mbenga? lmfao. please enlighten me |
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fandango

Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Shadow Hills
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: EWWWWW... |
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[quote="therealdeal"]im gettin a little tired of the Odom bashing. regardless of what people tend to think, Lamar did a great job helping our team to the finals. His slashing ability is fantastic when used effectively. Im not against trading him but when you say things like deng is better than odom your not giving him nearly enough credit. Odom's defense is admitedly not amazing and at times pretty disappointing, but his offense and his length make him a solid B player at least.
i dont mind the trade, it wont happen, but i dont mind it, im just trying to stand up for odom since it seems like no one else will[/quote]
And why we should stand for him?
He was the biggest dissapointment for us in the finals. He didnt score. He didn't play any defence. And he was taking about 5 personal fouls in each of the first three games agains the Celtics.That set the tone for the rest of the serie.
How can you stand behind a guy like him? I don't understand it.
Of course, Luol Deng is better than him. And not only Luol. There are so many others. |
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LAKEROC
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 545
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd give Odom up for Deng and Heinrich in a heartbeat. I think if we did that, you can hand us the damn Larry O' Brien trophy |
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fandango

Joined: 01 Dec 2007 Posts: 69 Location: Shadow Hills
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:40 am Post subject: Luol Deng/T.Thomas |
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L.Deng - $ 10.0 and T.Thomas - $ 3.7 for L.Odom - $14.5 and Ch. Mihm - $ 2.5
After we trade L.Walton to the 76-ers for R.Evans, we have to concetrate on this deal.It is obvious, Luol Deng does not want to stay in Chicago. The Bulls for sure won't match a $ 10.0 mil. salary. Their qulifying offer is $ 4.452 mil. In this case, it will be better for them to make a sign & trade deal. GM Jim Paxson was waiting for more trade options, but, so far, there is nothing better than L.Odom/Ch.Mihm.
WHY THE BULLS WILL DO THIS TRADE?
Because, in L.Odom & Ch.Mihm, they gets two expiring contracts. Plus, Lamar is better PF than Dr.Gooden, who is also a FA next year and Chris will back-up J.Noah at 5, with Nocioni starting at 3.
WHY WOULD WE DO THIS TRADE ?
Because L.Deng is young and solid SF, who can easely make 20 - 22 points every night and play solid defence for us. T.Thomas is also young and promising PF, who can also get some minutes at 5. assuming, Reggie Evans will be here by then. And, if something goes wrong, we have a T.O. (Team Option) on Thomas in the next summer. So, there is nothing to lose.
2008/09 Lakers squade:
PG D.Fisher ( J. Farmar )
SG K.Bryant ( S.Vujacic ) Crawford
SF L.Deng ( Tr.Ariza ) Sun Yue
PF P.Gasol ( R.Evans ) Radmanovic
C A. Bynum ( T.Thomas ) |
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Justwar
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 24
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Tyrus Thomas if anything is a undersized PF, who doesn't have a SF game. Deng has little perimeter game either. Rather have Nocioni, Gray and Gordon if you want a reasonable deal. |
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therealdeal
Joined: 17 Jul 2008 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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why does phili want Luke Walton?  |
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indeed
Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 114
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Justwar wrote: |
| Tyrus Thomas if anything is a undersized PF, who doesn't have a SF game. Deng has little perimeter game either. Rather have Nocioni, Gray and Gordon if you want a reasonable deal. |
funniest post ever. thanks for that |
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lakerfansd

Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 322 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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why does phili want Luke Walton?  |
Because of his "high basketball IQ" remember?  |
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L4L Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 9226 Location: Trade Rumors Forum
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