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JORDANDREW



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: IDEA: Odom for Deng? Reply with quote

Is it possible? Deng is a RFA and while Odom has a big contract, he still has value(expiring contract). If Deng doesn't want to resign with the Bulls, would he be a nice fit on the starting 5?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has no three point shot whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulls wont do it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Armani wrote:
bulls wont do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL mhihi
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jajwa wrote:
He has no three point shot whatsoever.


You think Deng would be worth ~$14M expiring contract? He would have to be S&T and it would get all complicated w/ the BYC issues. I doubt CHI would do Odom for Deng straight up let alone Odom for Deng AND someone else as salary cap filler unless they try to pawn off Ben Wallace's...oh wait someone else was stupid enough to take that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khmrP wrote:
Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL mhihi


I'll take it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would be hilarious and ironic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Chicago cant sign Deng or think they will lose him, I dont see why they wouldnt trade for Odom (who they like) and his expiring contract. I dont know if the Lakers would do it though. Deng will want a long term deal and given Bynum has to get paid, I dont think we bring in that salary.

I made a post about this but Radmanovic and Waltons contracts are killers. They are both long term and impossible to dump.

Hinrich/noic/thomas for Odom/Farmar/Mihm is fair and I think Chicago would definitely condsider it. THis deal works for both teams. This deal fulfills needs. Great trade proposal.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we wish. getting the far better player in a deal is always the better thing.

Deng>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LO
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therealdeal



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im gettin a little tired of the Odom bashing. regardless of what people tend to think, Lamar did a great job helping our team to the finals. His slashing ability is fantastic when used effectively. Im not against trading him but when you say things like deng is better than odom your not giving him nearly enough credit. Odom's defense is admitedly not amazing and at times pretty disappointing, but his offense and his length make him a solid B player at least.

i dont mind the trade, it wont happen, but i dont mind it, im just trying to stand up for odom since it seems like no one else will
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deng is worth more than Odom even after his meteoric drop in value last season.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: There are rumors but... Reply with quote

I would love to get Luol Deng, as I said in other post in my opinion Lamar Odom is more valuable than a lot trade proposals read as: Kirk Hirnrich, David Lee, Shane Battier... and even than Ron Artest (in my opinion). But Luol Deng is young, athletic... I think that he would be a great addition, he is not a shooter but... you have Radamanovic and... Vujacic? for that mission in the team.

Anyway, still I think that we need a good point-guard in the team...

I read a rumor in a Spanish sport newspaper - MARCA - (but now that Pau Gasol is playing for Lakers this newspaper talks about a lot of trade with Lakers... more in a fan way than in a realistic way I think), this is the link:

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/baloncesto/nba/es/desarrollo/1149623.html

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khmrP wrote:
Hinrich/Thomas/Nocioni for Lamar/Farmar/Mihm, works salary wise no DENG no DEAL mhihi
I would do that also. Hinrich/Deng for Odom/whoever they want would be the ideal move.. But that package is also great for us.

Tyrus is a cheaper, better replacement for Ronny.. Nocioni is like Vlade's shooting with Ariza's D.. Not as good of a slasher as Ariza but better than Vlade. Perfect fit at the 3 for us IMO. & then there's Hinrich.. I don't think there's a better triangle PG in the nba today.. Tall, good passer, good 3 point shot, can penetrate, high bball IQ, good defender.. Plus his height allows him to play some backup 2 if we lose Sasha. I think Phil would absolutely love this deal.

It would also make it easier to get rid of Vlade with Noc replacing his 3's.. Sign Kwame & trade Vlade for a future 2nd.

Hinrich/Fisher
Kobe/Sasha
Noc/Ariza/Luke
Pau/TT
Bynum/Kwame


Very very balanced team.. I would absolutely love it
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therealdeal



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldnt call Kwame part of a balanced team...hes a pretty weak link in that lineup

besides im pretty sure theres no way hes coming back to play for the Lakers, why would he want to? after the way we basically kicked him out?

no, itd be better if you looked for a better backup C
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

therealdeal wrote:
i wouldnt call Kwame part of a balanced team...hes a pretty weak link in that lineup

besides im pretty sure theres no way hes coming back to play for the Lakers, why would he want to? after the way we basically kicked him out?

no, itd be better if you looked for a better backup C
Part of being a balanced team is playing defense. Something not many centers in the NBA do better than Kwame.

& what better C's are out there that we could sign? Mbenga? lmfao. please enlighten me
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:44 pm    Post subject: EWWWWW... Reply with quote

[quote="therealdeal"]im gettin a little tired of the Odom bashing. regardless of what people tend to think, Lamar did a great job helping our team to the finals. His slashing ability is fantastic when used effectively. Im not against trading him but when you say things like deng is better than odom your not giving him nearly enough credit. Odom's defense is admitedly not amazing and at times pretty disappointing, but his offense and his length make him a solid B player at least.

i dont mind the trade, it wont happen, but i dont mind it, im just trying to stand up for odom since it seems like no one else will[/quote]

And why we should stand for him?
He was the biggest dissapointment for us in the finals. He didnt score. He didn't play any defence. And he was taking about 5 personal fouls in each of the first three games agains the Celtics.That set the tone for the rest of the serie.
How can you stand behind a guy like him? I don't understand it.
Of course, Luol Deng is better than him. And not only Luol. There are so many others.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd give Odom up for Deng and Heinrich in a heartbeat. I think if we did that, you can hand us the damn Larry O' Brien trophy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:40 am    Post subject: Luol Deng/T.Thomas Reply with quote

L.Deng - $ 10.0 and T.Thomas - $ 3.7 for L.Odom - $14.5 and Ch. Mihm - $ 2.5

After we trade L.Walton to the 76-ers for R.Evans, we have to concetrate on this deal.It is obvious, Luol Deng does not want to stay in Chicago. The Bulls for sure won't match a $ 10.0 mil. salary. Their qulifying offer is $ 4.452 mil. In this case, it will be better for them to make a sign & trade deal. GM Jim Paxson was waiting for more trade options, but, so far, there is nothing better than L.Odom/Ch.Mihm.
WHY THE BULLS WILL DO THIS TRADE?
Because, in L.Odom & Ch.Mihm, they gets two expiring contracts. Plus, Lamar is better PF than Dr.Gooden, who is also a FA next year and Chris will back-up J.Noah at 5, with Nocioni starting at 3.

WHY WOULD WE DO THIS TRADE ?
Because L.Deng is young and solid SF, who can easely make 20 - 22 points every night and play solid defence for us. T.Thomas is also young and promising PF, who can also get some minutes at 5. assuming, Reggie Evans will be here by then. And, if something goes wrong, we have a T.O. (Team Option) on Thomas in the next summer. So, there is nothing to lose.

2008/09 Lakers squade:

PG D.Fisher ( J. Farmar )
SG K.Bryant ( S.Vujacic ) Crawford
SF L.Deng ( Tr.Ariza ) Sun Yue
PF P.Gasol ( R.Evans ) Radmanovic
C A. Bynum ( T.Thomas )
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyrus Thomas if anything is a undersized PF, who doesn't have a SF game. Deng has little perimeter game either. Rather have Nocioni, Gray and Gordon if you want a reasonable deal.
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therealdeal



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why does phili want Luke Walton? freak2
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justwar wrote:
Tyrus Thomas if anything is a undersized PF, who doesn't have a SF game. Deng has little perimeter game either. Rather have Nocioni, Gray and Gordon if you want a reasonable deal.

funniest post ever. thanks for that
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

therealdeal wrote:
why does phili want Luke Walton? freak2


Because of his "high basketball IQ" remember? man10
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks but, there is already an extensive thread on Deng here:
http://www.clublakers.com/forums/hoopsworld-deng-available-lakers-interested-t99982.html
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