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Savory Griddles
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| Lakerman JSJ wrote: |
| ^Just to add one more thing: If his extension wasn't his primary focus, he wouldn't have stayed with a Lottery team that he thought was going to extend him. His main focus is clearly an extension, while playing for a contending team that will give him an extension is just the cherry on the sundae. |
Is the sundae hot fudge or butterscotch. It better be hot fudge.
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hollywood swinger
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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If we land artest is will be a total fleecing because we will give up nothing of consequence. which means we will get to keep odom. they can take it or leave it.
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davriver290
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| While Phil Jackson is intrigued (according to sources close to the Laker coach) at the thought of what Artest could add defensively to the team, both he and the Laker decision makers hold Odom in high regard. |
I'll never understand this. Yes, Odom is a good player, but what has he ever done to earn this high regard and this sort of idea that he's never going anywhere? But yeah, Artest AND Hinrich for Odom, Ariza, Mihm and Farmar or some combination? Sign me up. |
Why is that hard to beileve? Odom is a rare player. He can guard most PF's, also SF's and C's. Odom can drive, post up. He is not a consistent player, but always brings a ton of effort when it comes to rebounding and passing.
And that little thing about Odom not being able to guard SF's. Is absoutley trash.
I saw Odom guard Pierce I think in December, kept him in check until he moved back up to PF and Walton guarded him. Odom has guarded Anthony. He can guard Marion. I just say if in any way shape or form when Odom leaves, it'll be probably if that 3 headed frontline does not work out.
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Aceiz2fresh
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Odom won't be postin up at the 3 spot and driving will be more difficult against quicker sf's
Sure he can do it against the slower PF's.
plus with Odoms inept abilty to shoot efficiently from the perimeter, that'll have a the defender automatically play off him and it'll have kobe double-teamed if LO can't knockdown his shot.
Artest is a much better defender. Can make the shot ETC.
Make this a done deaL
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nicehair911
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So I guess are chances just went down 
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marcelo
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The Maverick wrote: |
| If we get both Artest and Hinrich, I'm going to need a new pair of pants. |
I'm gonna need a whole new wardrobe, because i'll keep ruining pants after pants. For a long time. |
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addwuzhere
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| The Maverick wrote: |
| If we get both Artest and Hinrich, I'm going to need a new pair of pants. |
I'm gonna need a whole new wardrobe, because i'll keep ruining pants after pants. For a long time. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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the Queens will not do anything that helps the Lakers. Forget Artest, he is a cancer and Kenny Thomas is almost as bad. Go after Hinrich and a power forward from Chicago or sign Kurt Thomas.  |
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| Right on the money with Lamar..He'll accept the role of fourth option, but not Ron Ron... |
I agree totally. Although I would still take a deal with Artest because of what he's brings to the table in toughness and defense, long-term it would be a disaster waiting to happen. I can easily see him holding out, skipping practices and the like because of his role in the offense, contract, etc.
Everyone forgets that one of the compelling reasons he was traded from Indy was because he didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to JO. He's been a model citizen on the court in Sac-town because he's the co-#1 option beside Martin, and gets plenty of touches.
Remember, we're LOGICALLY thinking about Ron being a 4th option, and LOGICALLY it makes alot of sense. Unfortunately, Artest doesn't do logical thinking too well.
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too bad the kings would never help us
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaLakerFan wrote: |
| KareemTheGreat33 wrote: |
| Right on the money with Lamar..He'll accept the role of fourth option, but not Ron Ron... |
I agree totally. Although I would still take a deal with Artest because of what he's brings to the table in toughness and defense, long-term it would be a disaster waiting to happen. I can easily see him holding out, skipping practices and the like because of his role in the offense, contract, etc.
Everyone forgets that one of the compelling reasons he was traded from Indy was because he didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to JO. He's been a model citizen on the court in Sac-town because he's the co-#1 option beside Martin, and gets plenty of touches.
Remember, we're LOGICALLY thinking about Ron being a 4th option, and LOGICALLY it makes alot of sense. Unfortunately, Artest doesn't do logical thinking too well. |
disagree immensely from a pure hoops standpoint...as long as Kobe is sacrificing I see no issues with Artest...I think more than anyone Bynum and Gasol will benefit from Artest's work ethic..I think he will teach them something that CAP can't and that's heart....I think Artest will make those two guys shine like never before....They'll be more aggressive and fearless and basically let their nutz hang... |
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V.V.V.V.V.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Pimpeasy wrote: |
| CarolinaLakerFan wrote: |
| KareemTheGreat33 wrote: |
| Right on the money with Lamar..He'll accept the role of fourth option, but not Ron Ron... |
I agree totally. Although I would still take a deal with Artest because of what he's brings to the table in toughness and defense, long-term it would be a disaster waiting to happen. I can easily see him holding out, skipping practices and the like because of his role in the offense, contract, etc.
Everyone forgets that one of the compelling reasons he was traded from Indy was because he didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to JO. He's been a model citizen on the court in Sac-town because he's the co-#1 option beside Martin, and gets plenty of touches.
Remember, we're LOGICALLY thinking about Ron being a 4th option, and LOGICALLY it makes alot of sense. Unfortunately, Artest doesn't do logical thinking too well. |
disagree immensely from a pure hoops standpoint...as long as Kobe is sacrificing I see no issues with Artest...I think more than anyone Bynum and Gasol will benefit from Artest's work ethic..I think he will teach them something that CAP can't and that's heart....I think Artest will make those two guys shine like never before....They'll be more aggressive and fearless and basically let their nutz hang... |
Heart can't be taught, but if it could, Cap would impart it. I hope you aren't saying that Cap had no heart....
But I'm with you in that aggressive defense is infectious, just look at heartless KG who pretended to be aggressive and mean and inspired his teammates.
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Pimpeasy
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| V.V.V.V.V. wrote: |
| Pimpeasy wrote: |
| CarolinaLakerFan wrote: |
| KareemTheGreat33 wrote: |
| Right on the money with Lamar..He'll accept the role of fourth option, but not Ron Ron... |
I agree totally. Although I would still take a deal with Artest because of what he's brings to the table in toughness and defense, long-term it would be a disaster waiting to happen. I can easily see him holding out, skipping practices and the like because of his role in the offense, contract, etc.
Everyone forgets that one of the compelling reasons he was traded from Indy was because he didn't want to play 2nd fiddle to JO. He's been a model citizen on the court in Sac-town because he's the co-#1 option beside Martin, and gets plenty of touches.
Remember, we're LOGICALLY thinking about Ron being a 4th option, and LOGICALLY it makes alot of sense. Unfortunately, Artest doesn't do logical thinking too well. |
disagree immensely from a pure hoops standpoint...as long as Kobe is sacrificing I see no issues with Artest...I think more than anyone Bynum and Gasol will benefit from Artest's work ethic..I think he will teach them something that CAP can't and that's heart....I think Artest will make those two guys shine like never before....They'll be more aggressive and fearless and basically let their nutz hang... |
Heart can't be taught, but if it could, Cap would impart it. I hope you aren't saying that Cap had no heart....
But I'm with you in that aggressive defense is infectious, just look at heartless KG who pretended to be aggressive and mean and inspired his teammates. |
I know people say it can't be taught but in certain instances I think it can...If you get your @ss kicked enough you'll learn to fight with heart...or die you shall...as for CAP it wasn't meant as a diss...only saying that if you want heart learn to get it from an on the court warrior battling and showing you real time how not to get your @ss kicked....I know it sounds kinda crass but that's the take I'm rollling with for now.... |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaLakerFan wrote: |
| Right on the money with Lamar..He'll accept the role of fourth option, but not Ron Ron... |
If LO will "accept" 4th role player then he will understand 4th role players making as much as he does will have take a huge pay cut. If LO does that Im sure no one would want to trade him. |
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