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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
Why have you started 2 threads about point guards? If you thought a good PG was needed, why didn't you just put this on your first thread about point guards? Stop wasting space. |
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I think it will all depend on how much playing time he gets. If he gets adequate playing time, and has his confidence going, he can be a good threat. I think we saw Farmar starting to break out with Bynum in the lineup, and doing well. With Bynum back, I can see those 2 creating some nice plays for each other, and a lot of alley-oops.
Maybe it's just me, but if the Lakers keep Farmar and Bynum for a long time, I can see them possibly being the next Dynamic Duo for the Lakers in the post Kobe era. 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
Why have you started 2 threads about point guards? If you thought a good PG was needed, why didn't you just put this on your first thread about point guards? Stop wasting space. |
Because I have started two different topics. Does that answer your question? |
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I think it will all depend on how much playing time he gets. If he gets adequate playing time, and has his confidence going, he can be a good threat. I think we saw Farmar starting to break out with Bynum in the lineup, and doing well. With Bynum back, I can see those 2 creating some nice plays for each other, and a lot of alley-oops.
Maybe it's just me, but if the Lakers keep Farmar and Bynum for a long time, I can see them possibly being the next Dynamic Duo for the Lakers in the post Kobe era. :man12: |
Those two definitely look promising if they grow and develope a chemistry together. In addition, I wouldnt give up on a guy like Ariza. he is roughly around their age. The future looks good. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
Why have you started 2 threads about point guards? If you thought a good PG was needed, why didn't you just put this on your first thread about point guards? Stop wasting space. |
Because I have started two different topics. Does that answer your question? |
No, that doesn't answer anything. On one thread you are talking about needing a playmaking point guard. On the 2nd thread you are talking about Farmar potentially becoming the answer at PG. Both topics are one in the same.
Or, you are contradicting yourself. If we need a PG and you are hyping Farmar, then you have answered your own question. That could be done on one thread. |
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I'm not worried about Farmar's numbers. I think they will increase steadily for the next season or two. All I want Farmar to do is work on defense and strength training.
If he ever learns to jump into the defender and not shy away from contact, he will increase his scoring by a good amount right there.
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I am excited about Farmar, but I want to temper your enthusiasm. Fisher is going to be the starter in all likelihood. He averaged 5.4 assists per 48 minutes as a rookie, but increased that to 6.3 this past season. So even if he improves again by that kind of margin, he'd STILL have to play 33.3 minutes in order to do that. I just don't think it's going to happen. Look for him to be closer to 24-28 mpg, 10 or 11 points, 3-3.5 assists per game.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
Why have you started 2 threads about point guards? If you thought a good PG was needed, why didn't you just put this on your first thread about point guards? Stop wasting space. |
Because I have started two different topics. Does that answer your question? |
No, that doesn't answer anything. On one thread you are talking about needing a playmaking point guard. On the 2nd thread you are talking about Farmar potentially becoming the answer at PG. Both topics are one in the same.
Or, you are contradicting yourself. If we need a PG and you are hyping Farmar, then you have answered your own question. That could be done on one thread. |
Just stop.
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He might be starting by next season if can continue to shot the rock well and get to the hoop. But he stil needs to bulk up and play smarter defense. Mostly everyone thinks he's trade bait but why trade a guy who has improved so much in second season vastly. Im predicting 11.8ppg 3.5 apg 25mpg.
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...playing for the Kings? 
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Also to add, Derek Fisher's not getting any younger. Phil may play him a bit more and rest Fish some more to see what Farmar has got at times. I'm sure Fish wouldn't mind too many reduced minutes if it could mean Farmar getting better. After all, Fish is the mentor to Farmar and others, so it'd favor Farmar to get some more minutes.
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| ...playing for the Kings? |
No.
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| I am excited about Farmar, but I want to temper your enthusiasm. Fisher is going to be the starter in all likelihood. He averaged 5.4 assists per 48 minutes as a rookie, but increased that to 6.3 this past season. So even if he improves again by that kind of margin, he'd STILL have to play 33.3 minutes in order to do that. I just don't think it's going to happen. Look for him to be closer to 24-28 mpg, 10 or 11 points, 3-3.5 assists per game. |
Yeah but as a starter Fish got a lot of his assists from alley-oops to Bynum then later in the season to Pau. When Farmar was playing with Bynum very early in the season he was having a lot of success. I wouldn't mind seeing how Farmar does with the starters.
If he has a Summer like last year who knows how good he can be. It's apparent that right now his problem is conditioning; he was great in the 1st half of the season but really hit a wall and wasn't able to perform after that. If he can get his conditioning going and work on his strength so he doesn't have an Jazz-like fallures I think we'll be alright.
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This season was Jordan's breakout year. We can only hope that he steadily improves his numbers and puts in the work to become a solid defender. His attitude seemed a bit immature at times, but I think Jordan has got the work ethic to improve, even if a 1st round PG isn't clawing at him.
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The thing I'm most disappointed in Farmar is his atrocious playmaking abilities under pressure...
he needs to finally play like a PG...he is just a scorer for us when he comes in...he barely makes plays for others...I want my PG to do better than that. Farmar really needs to come in and control the pace, penetrate and find open teammates...
look at Nash, Paul, Kidd, Deron and all these great PGs...its not just the talent that makes them great...they also do things that eventually lead to greatness by playing the game the right way.
When we drafted Farmar everybody was talking about how we have got our REAL PG...but the truth is Farmar has not been a PG at all...he hasn't done more than Sasha in terms of playmaking and ball handling...and under pressure he is a TO waiting to happen...he is forcing pass after pass...
ya his defense isn't all that good but thats not my biggest knock because most PGs aren't all that defensive minded but at least do what you are supposed to do and be what you are supposed to be. Just staying beyond the 3 point line and waiting for someone to make a play for you is pathetic.
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sky is the limit for Jordan,,, he is fearless and plays with a lot of heart..I expect him to play the bulk of minutes at PG this season..
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Very Excited for Jordan Farmar Next Year |
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
You're right, I expect a lot from him next season. His game has improved by leaps and bounds!
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The thing I'm most disappointed in Farmar is his atrocious playmaking abilities under pressure...
he needs to finally play like a PG...he is just a scorer for us when he comes in...he barely makes plays for others...I want my PG to do better than that. Farmar really needs to come in and control the pace, penetrate and find open teammates...
look at Nash, Paul, Kidd, Deron and all these great PGs...its not just the talent that makes them great...they also do things that eventually lead to greatness by playing the game the right way.
When we drafted Farmar everybody was talking about how we have got our REAL PG...but the truth is Farmar has not been a PG at all...he hasn't done more than Sasha in terms of playmaking and ball handling...and under pressure he is a TO waiting to happen...he is forcing pass after pass...
ya his defense isn't all that good but thats not my biggest knock because most PGs aren't all that defensive minded but at least do what you are supposed to do and be what you are supposed to be. Just staying beyond the 3 point line and waiting for someone to make a play for you is pathetic. |
to be fair.. all those PGs play in totally different systems.. as we all know, the triangle is not for the conventional PGs, where the 1 spot creates for others... ran correctly, the triangle creates the opportunity for all 5 players on the floor.. traditionally, a triangle PG is a spot up shooter which is why sasha has begun to flourish..
i do agree with you in regards with his decision making and TOs.. plus he needs to stop pouting, shut up and just play hard
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The thing I'm most disappointed in Farmar is his atrocious playmaking abilities under pressure...
he needs to finally play like a PG...he is just a scorer for us when he comes in...he barely makes plays for others...I want my PG to do better than that. Farmar really needs to come in and control the pace, penetrate and find open teammates...
look at Nash, Paul, Kidd, Deron and all these great PGs...its not just the talent that makes them great...they also do things that eventually lead to greatness by playing the game the right way.
When we drafted Farmar everybody was talking about how we have got our REAL PG...but the truth is Farmar has not been a PG at all...he hasn't done more than Sasha in terms of playmaking and ball handling...and under pressure he is a TO waiting to happen...he is forcing pass after pass...
ya his defense isn't all that good but thats not my biggest knock because most PGs aren't all that defensive minded but at least do what you are supposed to do and be what you are supposed to be. Just staying beyond the 3 point line and waiting for someone to make a play for you is pathetic. |
That's true but as the season wore on it just got harder and harder for him. In the beginning of the season he was doing alot of the things you said. Running pick and rolls getting alley oops to Bynum getting open shots to a few guys. I think he started off the season at full speed trying to show off how much he worked in the summer but it ended up wearing him out and towards the end all we got was the Farmar you described that just stood back and waited for someone to pass to him for a 3.
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^I don't understand that to be honest...
its not like he played 40 mpg...he played less than 20. there is no reason for a sophomore to break down while playing 16-18 minutes per game. Farmar is a great athlete and seems to be very well conditioned...
So I'm not really sure he ran out of gas...We have rookies that come in and play 35 mpg and get better and better as the year goes on...ya that can't be expected from everyone but hitting a "rookie wall" while playing 18 mpg and not being a rookie is weird and somewhat questionable.
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^I don't understand that to be honest...
its not like he played 40 mpg...he played less than 20. there is no reason for a sophomore to break down while playing 16-18 minutes per game. Farmar is a great athlete and seems to be very well conditioned...
So I'm not really sure he ran out of gas...We have rookies that come in and play 35 mpg and get better and better as the year goes on...ya that can't be expected from everyone but hitting a "rookie wall" while playing 18 mpg and not being a rookie is weird and somewhat questionable. |
It happens to a lot of players. 30 college games it totally different 10 preseason games 82 regular season games and 20 playoff games. It's a mans game some people have the body more equiped to go right into it like Lebron but for some it takes a couple of years of conditioning. I mean look at Bynum his 2nd year in the leauge he was putting up great stats but he just pooped out and towards the end of the season he couldn't even get high enough to dunk. It took him until his 3rd season to really be able to run up and down and throw it down hard every time, and IMO the same will apply for Farmar.
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Did he learn how to play defense???
coz if he didnt why all the excitement!!!!!1
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I think it will all depend on how much playing time he gets. If he gets adequate playing time, and has his confidence going, he can be a good threat. I think we saw Farmar starting to break out with Bynum in the lineup, and doing well. With Bynum back, I can see those 2 creating some nice plays for each other, and a lot of alley-oops.
Maybe it's just me, but if the Lakers keep Farmar and Bynum for a long time, I can see them possibly being the next Dynamic Duo for the Lakers in the post Kobe era. |
Farmar won't be good enough for a second option to be considered a dynamic duo with Bynum. But he has shown to have extremely good chemistry with Bynum on the court and they will be a great pair for a long time if we keep them.
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Ear jordan please learn how to play defense.
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I think next season could be a breakout season for Jordan Farmar. As a matter of fact, I would be surprised if we all werent calling him the best PG on the team as the season progresses. Look at his numbers:
4.4ppg/.422%/.328 3pt%/1.9apg-----06-07
9.1ppg/.461%/.371 3pt%/2.7apg-----07-08
if Farmar progresses, its not unbelieveable to think he may average 13ppg/5apg next year (if not better). That would be a huge shot in the arm for this team next year. Also, its said the positions that take longest to develop players are C and PG. If Farmars skills come together or if he has an awakening where all of the sudden he "gets it", who knows where he ends.
It seemed like last year we all witnessed Bynum "getting it". I think and hope Farmar is the guy this year. Its great that at such a young age, he has already been to the biggest stage in the NBA. If he gains confidence and gets even hungrier, next year could be his coming out party. |
I'm excited that there's at least 4 more PG who'll make Farmar look like a big ear 12th grader. Bayless will dance around Farmar. With Rose, Farmar can at least smell him going by. Then there's Westbrook, OJ Mayo.
I'm also excited about the the old guys in our division- Parker, Williams, Nash, B-davis, Chris Paul, Kidd, Barbosa, Alston, Elis, and Terry.
Those are the guys Farmar has to play against if he wants minutes to get his 13 ppg. Granted, he'll have his share of 3-ptrs as well as tres by waving off Kobe and LO and calling his own number.
However, With Bynum possibly back at full strength, Farmar's productivity might actually rise. When those Pg blow by him, Bynum'll be there. In those rare chances when he does drive, he can throw up those errant passes. Bynum'll get them. Farmar is going to be as good as Bynum will let him. If for some reason, Bynum can't be on the court, Farmar is just a spot shooter who can't drive or play D.
Farmar may surprise me and get it... but it still remains, Bynum has the gifts and plays a position where there are few talent. With Farmar, there are so many PG who are better than he is I can't help but to get excited. There's no breaks any more at the PG position. |
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TheGoat
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Location: whispering orders into Kupchak's ear "Do it Mitch!"
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| Im predicting 11.8ppg 3.5 apg 25mpg. |
not bad for a 21 going on 22 yr old back up point guard. I wouldn't be surprised if he does this. Especially if you consider how he's improved in the past. You gotta hold onto young guys who continue to progress. Those are better numbers than Deron Williams put up as a 21 going on 22 rookie.
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"After slamming in an alley-oop as the Suns center(Amare Stoudemire) clung helplessly to his arm, Bynum hopped around like he was on a pogo stick, grinning and nodding in a 'Who’s the man-child now?' sort of way" -Chris Broussard of espn.
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Whatthef?
Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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Location: SactownLaker
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| His stats are very similar to Steve Nash's first two years. Nash didn't start to produce until he got 40 minutes a game in Dallas. Phil needs to give him the minutes and he needs to get his asst. up to at least 6 a game and get his 3 pt shot more consistent. |
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