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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: HoopsWorld: Nenad Krstic S&T? Europe? (major update) Reply with quote

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The word is a couple of NBA teams would do a sign-and-trade for Nenad and it seems for now, the Nets are open to making such a move.


The latest news from the Internet is, that the Nets are willing to move Nenad Krstic in a sign-and-trade deal. If they couldn't manage it, he is going to play for Makabi Tel-Aviv in Israel.
Looking at the curent Nets roster, we can see three centers - Yi Jianlian, J.Collins and Brook Lopez and 5 PF's - S.Williams, Josh Boone, St. Swift, E. Najera and R.Anderson. They don't have a back-up for B.Simmons at SF and obviousely, they lucks a long range shooter. That is why, I think, we can offer Radmanovic for center Nenad Krstic and PF Bostjan Nachbar in a sign - and - trade deal. That will give us two young back-up players at 4 and 5.
In this case, if we could trade L.Walton for a second round pic, we are going to fit into the Luxury Tax Threshold. And, we can even go lower, by trading Lamar for a better defensive and cheeper SF like Luol Deng, Gerald Wallace, Mike Miller, Mike Dunleavy, A. Nocioni etc.
What do you say guys?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yi is not a center
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YI IS A SMALL FORWARD AT BEST
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont know much about Krstic or Nachbar...
r these even realistic trades? is Radmonovic worth two people on any team? i mean at times i love radmonovic, im willing to trade him, but if we keep him, eh, whatever

but im pretty much positive we dont trade L Walton for draft picks, that sounds kinda dumb

and i want to keep lamar for a little while see how he does

other wise i must say im a little more interested than usual
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="GinoDB"]Yi is not a center[/quote]

Realy? Who told you that?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fandango wrote:
GinoDB wrote:
Yi is not a center


Realy? Who told you that?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SWOL"]YI IS A SMALL FORWARD AT BEST[/quote]

7' 0 " tall small forward?!? He has always played in his Chinese team as a center, but, when entered the NBA draft as a First Overal Pic, they introdiced him as a power forward. But. I suggest you to watch the Chinese Basketball Team next month in the Olympic Tournament and you will see exactly what is Yi's position.
That is why, the Nets got Boby Simmons, who will be their starter at SF ( in the place of R. Jefferson ) and Yi Jianlian at center. At 4 (PF) they got a rising star in Sean Williams and two more hard working guys like Stormile Swift and Eduardo Najera. Not to mention Josh Boone and the second of their first round pics - R.Anderson. Comprende?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude what r u talking about Yi is a SF, and he obviously does not play center for the Chinese team because Yao Ming plays these. Yi plays natually like a SF but can be an agile PF simple as that but he never plays Center. Second Ryan Anderson is a SF, all he does is shoot threes and jumpers so calling him a PF would be wrong. Finally Najera is a SF so they are set at that position. SO basically nets would never take Luke because they need cap space for 2010 offseason.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fandango wrote:
SWOL wrote:
YI IS A SMALL FORWARD AT BEST


7' 0 " tall small forward?!? He has always played in his Chinese team as a center, but, when entered the NBA draft as a First Overal Pic, they introdiced him as a power forward. But. I suggest you to watch the Chinese Basketball Team next month in the Olympic Tournament and you will see exactly what is Yi's position.
That is why, the Nets got Boby Simmons, who will be their starter at SF ( in the place of R. Jefferson ) and Yi Jianlian at center. At 4 (PF) they got a rising star in Sean Williams and two more hard working guys like Stormile Swift and Eduardo Najera. Not to mention Josh Boone and the second of their first round pics - R.Anderson. Comprende?


Umm, when he was the first overall pick?

Besides that, Radmanovic's contract runs one year too long for the Nets liking, Nachbar's in russia now and they would have to buy him out, and S&Ting Kristic would in all likelhood make him BYC, meaning players would have to be thrown into the deal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="fandango"][quote="SWOL"]YI IS A SMALL FORWARD AT BEST[/quote]

7' 0 " tall small forward?!? He has always played in his Chinese team as a center, but, when entered the NBA draft as a First Overal Pic, they introdiced him as a power forward. But. I suggest you to watch the Chinese Basketball Team next month in the Olympic Tournament and you will see exactly what is Yi's position.
That is why, the Nets got Boby Simmons, who will be their starter at SF ( in the place of R. Jefferson ) and Yi Jianlian at center. At 4 (PF) they got a rising star in Sean Williams and two more hard working guys like Stormile Swift and Eduardo Najera. Not to mention Josh Boone and the second of their first round pics - R.Anderson. Comprende?[/quote]

yi is a small forward hes was traded to replace richard jefferson at smallforward

nets line up is going to be
boone
kristic if he stays
yi
vince
haris
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Nets player that I want..is Devin Harris...

and to a degree S. Williams and Marcus Williams...the rest is garbage.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't they be having somewhat of a Fire Sale soon, with trying to get their hands on LeBron?

I would take any of the following off their hands:

Sean Williams (Mean, Nasty Defensive Power Forward, which we currently do not have)
Marcus Williams (Good @ UCONN + He's from LA)
Trenton Hassell (Good perimiter defender)
Stromile Swift (Good backup Center/Block Shot Little Lazy, but can defend, a Reunion with Pau might do him some good. Good friends I've heard)

They can have any of the following IMO:
Luke Walton
Chris Mihm
Coby Karl
Vlad Rad


The kids from NJ I've listed are pretty young except Swift, and could solidify a dominating future for LA. They could become some blue-collar type players, that play "D" which is what our team needs. Hard-working Defensive-Minded Players!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: What are you talking about? Reply with quote

[quote="Indianballer"]dude what r u talking about Yi is a SF, and he obviously does not play center for the Chinese team because Yao Ming plays these. Yi plays natually like a SF but can be an agile PF simple as that but he never plays Center. Second Ryan Anderson is a SF, all he does is shoot threes and jumpers so calling him a PF would be wrong. Finally Najera is a SF so they are set at that position. SO basically nets would never take Luke because they need cap space for 2010 offseason.[/quote]

You have made all of them a small forwards, hah? OK! I am not going to argue with you. Yao Ming did not play a basketball for more than a year. Durring that time, Yi was the natinal teams C/PF for most of the games. And, if you are going to qualify E.Najera as a SF, it makes no sense for me to go on.
Obviously, you haven't read well my post.
I didn't mention L.Walton's name in the trade for Krstic and Nachbar. I was offering V.Radmanovic.Luke does not have that much value.
And of course, we all heard the news of Bostjan Nachbar signing 3 years deal with Dynamo Moscaw. Same as C.Delfino and Jose Garbajosa from Toronto and Juan Carlos Navarro from Memphis. More and more European teams are offering big money for the NBA players and if that continue, there won't be any FA market in 2 - 3 years. Tax Free World. Anyone will preffer to play there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: No, he is a PG! Reply with quote

[quote="SWOL"]YI IS A SMALL FORWARD AT BEST[/quote]

No wonder, if you make him even a Point Guard, hah!
Dude! Go to ESPN.com, click on PLAYERS tab, then select letter "J" from the list of names. Open Yi Jianlian's profile and read.
At 7-0 or 6-11, he is a perfect PF and will play this summer as a PF for his country on the Olympics, while, of course, Yao Ming will get the center spot.

The Bucks drafted him to play at 4, while A.Bogutt was their starter at 5. But, when he went down with that injury, the coach disided to put Yi to replace him, insted of Dan Gadzuric. And Charlie Villanueva started at PF.

As you already know, many of the NBA's tall guys can play both 4 & 5 positions. I am not saying, all of them can do that, but many. Pau Gasol is one of them.

And please, don't bite on uninportant issues. My point was to get those to guys as a back-ups on 4 and 5. Anyway, they are not in the Nets plans for the next season and we need to download some $$$ to open a room for them. That was the point of my post. The current Nets roster still lucks a long range shoter and Radmanovic can be the perfect fit fot them. Nachbar is out of the market, but Krstis still is there. They can add someone else, like Trenton Hassell or Stormile Swift. If is neccesary, we can include Ch.Mihm or J.Crawford or C.Karl. Just to make a deal. Just to shake - up a little bit the surface of the ocean.
We desperately need to do something. To make this team better. So far, I can't see that happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KB24@CL wrote:
The Nets player that I want..is Devin Harris...

and to a degree S. Williams and Marcus Williams...the rest is garbage.


Williams was impressive in limited time this year.

Harris is a defensive stud who can create for others.

Never been sold on Williams, but you can't knock his offensive production and efficiency.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Garbage!?! Reply with quote

[quote="L4L"][quote="KB24@CL"]The Nets player that I want..is Devin Harris...

and to a degree S. Williams and Marcus Williams...the rest is garbage.[/quote]

Williams was impressive in limited time this year.

Harris is a defensive stud who can create for others.

Never been sold on Williams, but you can't knock his offensive production and efficiency.[/quote]

I don't think, we have the players to make a trade for both Williams and D.Harris. Those three guys are the cornerstones of the new Nets team. And, if they can get rid of Vince Carter's contract these days, they automaticaly are becoming the second force in the East, behind the Celtics. Look at their roster.

1. Marcus Williams ( Q.Dooling )

2. D.Harris (Tr.Hassell ) J.Hayes ( M.Ager )

3. B.Simmons( R.Anderson )

4. Sean Williams (Yi Jianlian) Josh Boone ( St.Swift ) E Najera

5. J.Collins ( Brook Lopez )
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SEAN WILLIAM PLEASEE

man13 man13

exactly who we need man... turiaf with better shot blocking, rebounding and scoring, but poorer attitude and jump shots.

get him mitch!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would actually like Josh Boone. He is like a less strong Kwame Brown with hands. He can board and improved drastically on his position defense last season. And the Nets most likely starting lineup next season will have Yi at the 4 with Boone at the 5 unless Brook Lopez shows something big in training camp.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yi is like an SF-PF hybrid. kinda like Odom, except he's not as good a rebounder.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Hi... Reply with quote

[quote="LakerzDQ"]Yi is like an SF-PF hybrid. kinda like Odom, except he's not as good a rebounder.[/quote]


I have said it before. Will repeat it again for you.
Go to ESPN.com and click on the "Players" tab at the top row. Then, from the alphabethical list, select the letter "J" for Jianlian and you will see, what is the real position of Yi. OK?

But, I don't understand your ( and some other guys here ) continious coments about Yi. Been SF or PF, that doesn't means anything. My post is not about Yi, it is about Nenad Krstic ( still available for trade) and Bostjan Nachbar (out of the market ).Those are the two guys, we need as a back-ups at 4 and 5. And, they are not in the plans of the Nets organization. Simple as it is.

Please, stop writing comments about Yi. He is not the point in my post and if he is a hybrid, that is F/C type. Not a SF/PF.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dantes of Nets Daily wrote:

Nenad Krstic, Serbian national player, stayed in Russia after tournament in Moscow, while all other players from Serbian squad went to China to play on Diamond ball. A reason is not injury, or disqualification from national team, but his trying to find a new team.
In interview for “Mondo” he’s saying that NBA is not a “must do” thing.

“I’ll stay in Moscow for day or two… I’m trying to finish details about new contract”, Krstic said in Monday afternoon.

MONDO: Is Triumph your new option?

Krstic: There’s some true about that… But, I don’t want to talk about details, it’ really too early. I don’t want to talk about that because there are other offers from NBA, Europe and Russia. I expect that I’ll sign new contract as soon as possible, because I really want to join to my national teammates in China.

MONDO: So, you don’t exclude an option to stay in Europe?

Krstic: I don’t… NBA is not my priority. Actually, recently NBA was really unfair with players who have one year till the end of the contract. Those players’ rights are seriously in danger.

MONDO: There are so many players who left NBA this year: Navarro, Garbajosa…

Krstic: NBA clubs are trying maximally to make lower my price on market. I know how good I am and how much effort and work I invested in myself during career. I don’t want let NBA clubs to put me on so low level. That’s maybe good for them, but I know how much I deserve.

MONDO: Is money your only motive to come back to Europe?

Krstic: No. European basketball is closer and closer to NBA quality, and so many players are coming to Europe from there. It’s not secret that European clubs, especially Russian, are bringing players with much better financial contract details then in USA.

MONDO: Is Euroleague one of main factors in choosing club?

Krstic: I would like if I can sign for some Euroleague club, but that will not be a main factor.


Julian Garcia of the New York Daily News wrote:

Just got off the phone with a source familiar with the Nenad Krstic situation and got more details on the 7-footer’s situation.

According to the source, Krstic has a “preliminary agreement” in place with a team from Russia and a midnight deadline to make up his mind. The source said that Krstic has also agreed not to negotiate with any other overseas teams - either other teams from Russia or in Europe. He can still come back to the Nets, or any other NBA team, but that seems unlikely.

Asked if Krstic is more likely to end up with the Russian team than back in the States, our source said, “I think he may be headed that way.”

Still have calls out to Nets brass and Krstic agent. Could get more details later, but it seems Krstic’s a goner.


Fred Kerber of the New York Post wrote:

Nenad Krstic Nenad Krstic is the next Nets player apparently headed for Russia.

Krstic, a restricted free agent, has a two-year deal in place if the Nets New Jersey Nets are unable to do a sign and trade by midnight tonight.
A deal with another NBA team seems unlikely, so Krstic would accept the two-year 5.78 million (euros) deal -- which translates to approximately $10 million deal.

The Nets have maintained all along that they wanted to bring Krstic back at a reasonable price and his preference is to stay in the NBA. But Krstic has been slow to recover from a devastating knee injury and subsequent surgery that has hampered him since December 2006.

He will have an opt out clause, so he can return to the NBA after one year. If and when he returns it would be as a restricted free agent with New Jersey.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yi is like a SF-PF typa guy.
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http://www.clublakers.com/forums/krstic-leaves-nba-for-triumph-moscow-t100307.html
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