steve francis

msb212 · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1062

http://www.nbawire.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=magic;action=display;num=1115800979

MarkMadsen · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 7460 Location: Minnesota

I seen this at LG. You know, this could be the "disgruntled" allstar someone mentioned earlier. He fits every aspect he was talking about man1

I have no problem with Stevie as long as its for that deal. Butler+Chucky+Divac is fine with me. No more. As long as we dont have to include our pick.
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Very interesting. At first I hated the very thought of adding Franchise, but the more I think about it, the more I like it. He is super explosive and can break defenses down big time. Even though he is a shoot first type PG I think he can improve us alot....just like Baron is doing with the Warriors. He and Kobe would be the most dangerous backcourt in the league. I'd love to get him for Caron + change.

Franchise
Kobe
Odom
Rookie???
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KB24@CL · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 1:08 am Post subject:

Its gonna be difficult with 3 ball in hand guys like Lamar, Kobe and Francis and I do not like an extremely TO prone back-court but Francis and Kobe would not just be the best back-court in scoring but rebounding defense, athletism. Francis has some black outs during the game when he tries too much, is too selfish, has SILLY TOs because of some And1 moves and he can develop into a cancer. His defense is some how overrated too and he got burned this year often BUT Kobe and Francis would be a great duo nontheless and since Divac and Sucky are bust we get an all-star for Butler at a loaded position so IF its true (the guy is a Orlando fan so why would he tell BS) it would be a fantansic aquisation and if the experiment doesnÂ´t work properly we could even trade Francis further for a GREAT big man cuz he has more value than Caron.
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LakerLord3 · Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 101 Location: LA

Francis

21.3ppg 5.8 rpg 7.0 apg

Killer Backcourt! By the way, do you we can get ruben patterson
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scar21 · Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 4

This rumor appears to be pretty old http://www.hoopsworld.com/printer_12326.shtml

MarkMadsen · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 7460 Location: Minnesota

could be old. But the fact they listed Lakers as an option makes it a possibilty. Plus add in the fact that a so called "insider" said to watch out for a disgrutnled all-star who could be traded here this summer. man1

Cant imagine Atlanta wasting all their cap space and number one pick for Stevie though. Their better off possibily drafting a good point or center then spending their cap on a good FA. That Denver trade is really tempting. But with Denver's recent success it might be hard to break up the team. But who knows, our deal doesnt sound too good as well lol.
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The Laker Link · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:41 am Post subject:

Laker Jam · Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 416

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE trade for the Lakers. I hope we don't do it. Francis only leads losing teams and there's a reason for that. He's a horrible ball hog and that's why the Magic is trying to dump him. In fact, Magic fans have been hating on Stevie for awhile now, as it became more and more obvious what a selfish player he is. How many Hoopsworld.com columns were strictly about how the Magic need to dump this guy? Too many to count, that's how many.

I watched Stevie ALOT last year. There were games where Grant Hill was on fire down the stretch of tight games and Francis would grab the ball, dribble dribble dribble, Hill would be wide open near the basket, Francis wouldn't pass him the ball and just dribble dribble dribble some more, the shot clock would wind down to 5 seconds and Francis would then shoot the ball and miss. Clank. Simply awful possesions and decision making down the stretch of games. Say no thanks to that absolutely HORRIBLE excuse for a PG.

Okay, I'll revise that. If Phil comes back and we run the Triangle, then I'd still hate the trade, but would be more optimistic about Phil's ability to handle Francis. I know for a fact Phil would bench Stevie's butt if he held onto the rock too long. He did it for years to Kobe and Kobe became the best player on the planet under Phil. Not that Francis has any chance at all to reach Kobe's level.

The thing is, that since we don't know if Phil IS coming back - what with the contract negotiations stalled over Phil wanting a say in roster decisions - I'd rather make something else happen first with another player. Butler should be moved for a BIG (Boozer), not for a little, greedy, ball hog with horrid decision making skills, especially when we don't know for certain who will be our next coach and if he's truly qualified to make it all work.

The Laker Link · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:57 am Post subject:

Hey...so with this Francis thing and George getting worked out in another deal...if that is true what if the "DEAL" with George is getting worked in for is for KG...and this is the deal...KG 4 Odom, George, and Cook??? That would be bad if we could do these two trades but it all depends on the GMs and stuff but still look at this...

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GuRu · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject:

Laker Link -

Have you absolutely no common sense?

We are not adding Francis and KG

Please, for the love of God, stop!
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The Laker Link · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:28 pm Post subject:

Still A Dynasty · Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 2821 Location: City of Angels

id do that trade without hesitation

francis and kobe couldnt be stopped...especially if they learn each other and how to feed each other

if for some reason it doesnt work out we could always trade him for a pg and a big...maybe somthing like francis for hinrich and chandler or swift and williams

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DMK · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject:

....

something strikes me as odd to see a bunny with a pancake on its head, but im laughing for some reason man10

Anyways, considering how LA struck out when it came to picking up mid season players during the trade deadline fiasco (Boozer/BDiddy etc)...i doubt we do anything this year either.

But it is fun getting excited over names being thrown around, buty ou kind of wanna puke to death when they actaully DO NOTHING instead. man11

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DMK · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:08 pm Post subject:

^^ Again, i dont disagree with your statement cause it fact can work out for the best.

Im just saying, i was expecting atleast Bdiddy or someone during that time. Either way, i still watched all of the laker games and supported them....just like i always have, win or lose.... thats what REAL Laker fans have done for decades, and will always do. ;)
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The Laker Link · Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 3:12 pm Post subject:

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LakersCourt · Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 949

Now the only problem (according to people) is Kobe and Francis learning to share the ball with each other...but I bet if they can figure it out quickly and perfect ly...you can see a good friendship and some SICK SICK ally-ops to each other and to and from KG...which would be bad a** for the Lakers...now like I said...it all depends on the GMs and what can be worked out but if these rumors are true that Francis might be a Laker and that George is in another deal away from Butler than hopefully the "DEAL" george is in is for KG with Odom and Cook or someone else and I think with trades and a roster like this...we'd have a he** of a season and maybe a championship again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That must be some great weed your smoking there man1

. First off, if we are even lucky enough to get KG, it will not be through sh-t like just offering Odom, George and Cook. It would require us, breaking the bank....it will cost us Odom, Butler and other goodies(draft picks) to make it happen. We then would have nothing left to trade for Francis. I muchprefer breaking the bank for Garnett than doing it for Franchise.....of the WNBA!!!!!

MarkMadsen · Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 7460 Location: Minnesota

if someone mentions another KG trade, ima :man7:
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msb212 · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1062

No way we get Francis and KG. BUT: We could do the francis deal, package him with Odom and george, and trade for KG and Wally. Deal works on Tradechecker. And makes sense for all concerned.