Brown deal done?

maddprophet · Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 156 Location: Hotlanta, GA.

abeer-

i'm saying, mike james?? wtf!

time will tell, and mitch will be vindicated.
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zetaw00d · Joined: 01 May 2003 Posts: 1252 Location: Lakewood

From the Philadelphia Inquirer

Wizards seeking Lakers' Butler in deal

By David Aldridge

Inquirer Staff Writer

LAS VEGAS - The Washington Wizards, stung by the loss of free agent Larry Hughes to the Cavaliers, may be able to stanch the sting.

Sources involved with the discussions say that the Wizards are talking to the Los Angeles Lakers about a sign-and-trade deal in which forward Kwame Brown, the top pick in the 2001 NBA draft, would go to the Lakers in exchange for swingman Caron Butler.

The Wizards have other options on the table that could bring them a much-needed big man in return for Brown, but Butler would make a lot of sense.

Butler has been available during most of his yearlong stay in Los Angeles. If the Lakers move him and, as expected, release forward Brian Grant in order to save money under the luxury tax, they would have precious little to show for their blockbuster trade of Shaquille O'Neal to Miami.

At home in Portland? Nate McMillan looks odd in a Portland Trail Blazers polo shirt.

But here he is, at the Las Vegas Summer League, looking at his backcourt of the future - Sebastian Telfair and first-round pick Martell Webster. That may be about all McMillan has to look forward to in the immediate future because the Blazers are officially rebuilding. Well, that and the $25 million that owner Paul Allen will be sending McMillan's way.

Seeing McMillan with the Blazers and not with the Seattle Sonics - the team he played with and coached for 19 years - is odd. But it also feels right.

"I was just feeling that maybe it's time to go, maybe it's time to change, go a different direction," he said. "At the beginning of [last] season, I had prepared myself. Everybody was saying I was on the hot seat. I heard 'dead man walking' and all of that stuff that was said. So I kind of prepared myself for the possibility that if I had to move, it wouldn't be a surprise to me."

But the Sonics surprised just about everyone by winning the Northwest Division and making the second round of the playoffs. And when Ray Allen agreed to an $80 million contract at the start of free agency, many assumed that McMillan would stay. But he turned down what he deemed a fair offer to move about a half-hour (by plane) south. Of course, it's a world removed in terms of atmosphere. The Blazers have put the "t" in turmoil.

Part of the reason for his move is that McMillan wasn't certain about the Sonics' future. Even after agreeing to terms with Allen, Seattle has eight free agents.

But the bigger reason for the move may have been the Sonics' unwillingness to give McMillan a permanent position in the organization after he was done coaching.

"The money was fair for a coach coming in," McMillan said. "But for someone that's been there 19 years - I couldn't risk it. If I'm here 23 years and I walk away or I get let go, you forget about me like [Gary] Payton. Or you forget about me like Shaquille [O'Neal]."

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Contact staff writer David Aldridge at 215-854-5516 or daldridge@phillynews.com.

Guest · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject:

Did I mention it's only CARON FREAKIN' BUTLER?

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DMK · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:05 pm Post subject:

Arent Kwame's numbers throughout his short career on par or better then JO's around this similar time? man3

Anyways, i would jump all over this deal if we were to get Dixon or even Hayes along with Kwame, but you never know.
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Jordan-esque · Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 4683 Location: So Cal in Sept

Wow...

We went from trading Caron Butler for Carlos Boozer... to settling with Caron Butler for Kwame Brown.
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GuRu · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject:

6 pages and counting!!! 6 pages it counting!!

Please get it to 15 and vaildate me as an "insider"

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Lord Johnny · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: Brown deal done?

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trodgers · Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject:

Helping this thread along to 15 pages, becuase my sources said that I would. And I'd be fine with Brown for Butler as the main pieces of the deal. Maybe we can throw in some more junk and get a little shinier piece of junk in return, too.
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unpossibl1 · Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 2695 Location: So Cal

I really like Caron. He is one of the true good guys in the league, and plays with a lot of heart.

However, reality is that after this season, he won't be a Laker. He will command 10 mil + per year, and I just don't see the Lakers paying that. Not when having him means that he either has to come off the bench or LO has to play out of position.

I don't know what deals are out there for Caron. All I know is we have to trade him. I hate to say it, because he is one of my favorites, but we have to trade him.

If Kwame Brown is the best young big we can get then so be it. Sure, I would love to get more for Caron, but I don't know what is being offered for him.

Even if we do get Kwame though, let's say he gets 35 minutes a night, pushing his averages up to roughly 15/9 (that would basically be his current production level with more minutes). I could live with that. But what if switching teams does for Kwame what it did for Jermaine Oneal? Then it will look like we got a major steal, especially if we are getting Kwame for the rumored 6 mil a year.

So, would you rather lose Caron after one season(or pay him 10+ mil a year),or get Kwame for 6 a year?

I am ok with the deal, I can take it or leave it. If we don't make the trade, then I will just keep my fingers crossed that something better will come along before the trade deadline. If we do make the deal, then welcome to LA Kwame. Go see Mr. Bryant, I am sure he will want you to tag along for workouts with him and Andrew Bynum.
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maddprophet · Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 156 Location: Hotlanta, GA.

now into particulars.....their contracts don't match up, so it can't be straight up. there has to be some other players involved. not that those additional players would make much difference, i mean it's only CARON FREAKING BUTLER FOLKS!

but more than anything, i think it absolutely ridiculous to claim a player's career is a bust or he's trash by the time he's 22. HE'S 22!!! bang

there is a huge upside to this kid. tons of potential. to say his head is screwed up, or he has no heart, and never can improve is nuts. he's more or less a rookie at this point in his mentality. he's still maturing and growing as a person as well as a player.

let's not condemn him already, give him a chance before you throw him to the wolves, just to jump on his bandwagon later, and oh yes, you will be a jumpin.

this apparently just makes too much sense for some of you to comprehend bang

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maddprophet · Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 156 Location: Hotlanta, GA.

I really like Caron. He is one of the true good guys in the league, and plays with a lot of heart.

However, reality is that after this season, he won't be a Laker. He will command 10 mil + per year, and I just don't see the Lakers paying that. Not when having him means that he either has to come off the bench or LO has to play out of position.

I don't know what deals are out there for Caron. All I know is we have to trade him. I hate to say it, because he is one of my favorites, but we have to trade him.

If Kwame Brown is the best young big we can get then so be it. Sure, I would love to get more for Caron, but I don't know what is being offered for him.

Even if we do get Kwame though, let's say he gets 35 minutes a night, pushing his averages up to roughly 15/9 (that would basically be his current production level with more minutes). I could live with that. But what if switching teams does for Kwame what it did for Jermaine Oneal? Then it will look like we got a major steal, especially if we are getting Kwame for the rumored 6 mil a year.

So, would you rather lose Caron after one season(or pay him 10+ mil a year),or get Kwame for 6 a year?

I am ok with the deal, I can take it or leave it. If we don't make the trade, then I will just keep my fingers crossed that something better will come along before the trade deadline. If we do make the deal, then welcome to LA Kwame. Go see Mr. Bryant, I am sure he will want you to tag along for workouts with him and Andrew Bynum.

well said bow

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