| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Lamar4MVP

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 629 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: Frnacis maybe!?! |
|
|
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36729/20050721/orlando_offers_keyon_dooling_a_three_year_$9_million_contract/
| Quote: |
Orlando Offers Keyon Dooling A Three-Year $9 Million Contract
21st July, 2005 - 2:55 am
RealGM - Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress reported exclusively to RealGM that the Orlando Magic have offered Miami Heat free agent Keyon Dooling a three-year $9 million contract.
Givony learned of the offer on Wednesday evening from a source with knowledge of the negotiations.
Dooling, who has averaged 5.8 point per game over his five years in the NBA, has yet to accept the deal, as the Nets are also in the running for his services.
Ohm Youngmisuk of the New York Daily News reported that Dooling had arrived in New Jersey on Wednesday night in prepartion of his visit on Thursday with the Nets.
Whether or not the Nets agree to a sign-and-trade deal with the Blazers for Shareef Abdur-Rahim will likely be the deciding factor on where Dooling eventually signs. If the Nets are forced to use their mid level exception on Abdur-Rahim, then they would be out of the running for Dooling.
Dooling was selected by the Magic in 2000, but was traded to the Clippers on Draft Night.
The 6-3 guard out of Missouri became a key member of Miami's playoff run last season after four uneventful seasons with the Clippers.
Givony also reports that signing Dooling could open things up for the Magic to deal Steve Francis, who has been the subject of trade rumors this summer. Givony's source indicated that the Lakers are one of the teams reportedly very interested in acquiring Francis and that Lamar Odom would definitely not be included in the discussions
|
Read the last Line!!!!! _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Lamar4MVP

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 629 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
If the Lakers trade for Francis, doesn't that kill their 07 cap space plan? Or would they just give up on that plan because of the opportunity to get Francis for nothing? And what do we have to offer them? Kobe/Odom/Bynum/Brown are the untouchables, Who's left to trade with some value??? George, Mihm? Jones? or maybe they want to clear cap????? Grant(to waive him) Vlade? _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kobynum
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 29
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
If orlando want to clear cap then we can send them...
George, slava, divac, first round pick of '06 (from miami/trade with shaq) |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kobe4ever

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 1542 Location: Los Angeles
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
ya it does... but i dont mind having francis in our lineup. bu the problem is francis is more like a scorer than a passer...
if the trade goes through i think it will be like
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
9.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 24.9 minutes
Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg
7.3 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 20.4 minutes
Vlade Divac
7-1 C from Serbia
2.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 8.7 minutes
Miami's First Rounder
Incoming
Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
21.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 7.0 apg in 38.2 minutes
Change in team outlook: +1.9 ppg, -6.5 rpg, and +4.1 apg.
Orlando Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Steve Francis
6-3 PG from Maryland
21.3 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 7.0 apg in 38.2 minutes
Incoming
Chris Mihm
7-0 C from Texas
9.8 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 24.9 minutes
Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg
7.3 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 0.9 apg in 20.4 minutes
Vlade Divac
7-1 C from Serbia
2.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 1.3 apg in 8.7 minutes
Miami's First rounder
Change in team outlook: -1.9 ppg, +6.5 rpg, and -4.1 apg.
Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers and Orlando being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and Orlando had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
and divac will buyout and sign with us again or juss retire. _________________ Lakers record (2005~2008) when im at the staple center :
when i drink sprite : 12-3
when i drink coke : 2-6 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kobynum
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 29
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:10 am Post subject: |
|
|
Why mihm ?
We need a center like him on the roster. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kobe4ever

Joined: 22 Feb 2005 Posts: 1542 Location: Los Angeles
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
| kobynum wrote: |
Why mihm ?
We need a center like him on the roster. |
im not saying i wanna trade mihm. im juss saying if the trade goes through dat is the most possible thing dat will happen. because orlando doesnt really have a good center. they have kelvin cato but i think mihm is better than him. also mihm's contract end in two years. george's contract end next year. and they will buyout divac so they could have some cap space. _________________ Lakers record (2005~2008) when im at the staple center :
when i drink sprite : 12-3
when i drink coke : 2-6 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kobynum
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 29
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
OK, let's say that mihm goes on that trade...
Who will play center for the lakers ?
Kawame and turiaf the power forwards ? bynum will get his chance so soon ?
Grant and divac are about to leave the team. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Dime Dropper

Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 74 Location: Reppin' the Eastside
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:05 am Post subject: |
|
|
| First of all, I don't know who Steve Frnacis is, but I know who Francis is, and just the prospect of bringing the electric point guard to Los Angeles excites me, but damn, then again, it's just a prospect for now. Kidd, Francis, either one would make a great effect on this team and bring them to the playoffs for sure. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Laker Fanatic

Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 113 Location: Lakerland
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Dime Dropper wrote: |
| First of all, I don't know who Steve Frnacis is, but I know who Francis is, and just the prospect of bringing the electric point guard to Los Angeles excites me, but damn, then again, it's just a prospect for now. Kidd, Francis, either one would make a great effect on this team and bring them to the playoffs for sure. |
i think it's funny how some of you guys clown guys for a mishap on the keyboard...saw something like this in other threads as well...easy children  _________________ Jerry West is the BEST! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Lamar4MVP

Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 629 Location: Germany
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Laker Fanatic wrote: |
| Dime Dropper wrote: |
| First of all, I don't know who Steve Frnacis is, but I know who Francis is, and just the prospect of bringing the electric point guard to Los Angeles excites me, but damn, then again, it's just a prospect for now. Kidd, Francis, either one would make a great effect on this team and bring them to the playoffs for sure. |
i think it's funny how some of you guys clown guys for a mishap on the keyboard...saw something like this in other threads as well...easy children  |
 _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Alleyhoops

Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 2784 Location: Culver City California
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| kobynum wrote: |
OK, let's say that mihm goes on that trade...
Who will play center for the lakers ?
Kawame and turiaf the power forwards ? bynum will get his chance so soon ?
Grant and divac are about to leave the team. |
right. mihm is not going anyhwere unless we acquire another center. for those of us who watched bynum in every SPL game, the guy is not even close to being a starting center. management's estimate of a three year project just to get him ready to play significant minutes may even be optimistic. _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Smallz

Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 251 Location: Ames, IA
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Laker Fanatic wrote: |
| Dime Dropper wrote: |
| First of all, I don't know who Steve Frnacis is, but I know who Francis is, and just the prospect of bringing the electric point guard to Los Angeles excites me, but damn, then again, it's just a prospect for now. Kidd, Francis, either one would make a great effect on this team and bring them to the playoffs for sure. |
i think it's funny how some of you guys clown guys for a mishap on the keyboard...saw something like this in other threads as well...easy children  |
for real, yo. it's just a typo. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Kingsama

Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 3969 Location: Tejas
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
If we can land Stevie for divac, slava, and dg you have to pull the trigger...
a line up of
steve
kobe
odom
kwame
mihm
could be big time, you augment the Triangle with a fastbreak focus and big things could be in the future... _________________ "God creates out of nothing. Wonderful you say. Yes, to be sure, but he does what is still more wonderful: he makes saints out of sinners."
"The highest and most beautiful things in life are not to be heard about, nor read about, nor seen but, if one will, are to be lived."
'Purity of heart is to will one thing."
- Soren Kierkegaard |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
trodgers Clublakers Moderator

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 22074 Location: Tallahassee
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Kingsama wrote: |
If we can land Stevie for divac, slava, and dg you have to pull the trigger...
a line up of
steve
kobe
odom
kwame
mihm
could be big time, you augment the Triangle with a fastbreak focus and big things could be in the future... |
And that leaves us with literally nothing at big man in terms of depth. _________________
PM me to join!
Or play some football:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/signup.pl?ref=324001 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Kingsama

Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 3969 Location: Tejas
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| k0pr0phage wrote: |
| Kingsama wrote: |
If we can land Stevie for divac, slava, and dg you have to pull the trigger...
a line up of
steve
kobe
odom
kwame
mihm
could be big time,
you augment the Triangle with a fastbreak focus and big things could be in the future... |
And that leaves us with literally nothing at big man in terms of depth. |
how so, we still have grant, mihm, ronny, bynum, kwame, and a resigned divac. Not to mention that Odom, JJ, and Luke could all pull stints at the 4 if needed. we would only be loosing slave and dg...
edit: not to mention that the MLE would not have to be spent on a starting guard, meaning that it could be spent on another big, or split and spent with the LLE on three players... _________________ "God creates out of nothing. Wonderful you say. Yes, to be sure, but he does what is still more wonderful: he makes saints out of sinners."
"The highest and most beautiful things in life are not to be heard about, nor read about, nor seen but, if one will, are to be lived."
'Purity of heart is to will one thing."
- Soren Kierkegaard |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
onetrackt
Joined: 21 Jul 2005 Posts: 97 Location: Sherman Oaks
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Alleyhoops wrote: |
| kobynum wrote: |
OK, let's say that mihm goes on that trade...
Who will play center for the lakers ?
Kawame and turiaf the power forwards ? bynum will get his chance so soon ?
Grant and divac are about to leave the team. |
right. mihm is not going anyhwere unless we acquire another center. for those of us who watched bynum in every SPL game, the guy is not even close to being a starting center. management's estimate of a three year project just to get him ready to play significant minutes may even be optimistic. |
I agree, i think he is good but he needs alot of help and when i saw him he couldnt catch the ball and he was kind of soft down low but i think he will get much better by next year. I actually saw steve eating at restaurant in Westwood like a week ago so maybe that is a sign, I doubt it though. If we do trade for him i hope we trade Grant not Mihm but if we trade Mihm i would like to see them sign Hunter for the MLE. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
westcoast21

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 3393 Location: Ariza's Asylum
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject: |
|
|
we need to get francis. this our chance to make a move to bring in a legitimate point guard. everyone says this guy is a ball hog, but last year ranked #7 in the league in assists, and thats on a team that has no superstar. he had grant hill to pass to. imagine what he could do with odom and kobe on his team.
DO IT MITCH - TRADE FOR FRANCIS _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
zagnut08

Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 72
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I think any time you have the opportunity to bring in a superstar, without taking a personel hit you do it.
Right now we are looking to sign any ole pg and keep mihm...
well how about we sign a star pg and go for any ole C
worste case, we unload some expiring contracts to aquire a stud, and use him to trade for someone else...
I dont see many reasons why orlando would trade start for garbage but I would love it if they would |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
chris_co8

Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 205 Location: Palos Verdes, CA
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
trade: Mihm, George, Vlade and Miamis pick for Francis
Sign Steven Hunter for the MLE
Lue for the LLE
Solid team IMO
Hunter
Brown
Odom
Bryant
Francis
Bynum
Turiaf
Jones
Wafer
Lue
Walton
Vujajic
reserves:
Slava
Parker
Really weak bench, but we have 3 legit scoring options that can be mixed in w/ our bench |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
garyxkoji

Joined: 12 Jul 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Berkeley
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
lue's fast, but hes not the type of point guard phil likes. He is wayy too small and i personally wouldnt want him back. This deal for francis sounds soo damn good, way too good, so it probably wont happen. i say we bring back penberthy and pargo  _________________ www.myspace.com/odominator |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
SWOL Separated at Birth: Ron Artest

Joined: 18 Jun 2003 Posts: 12936 Location: Buena Park CA
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
WHO IS FNRACIS, IVE NEERHEARD OF HIM _________________
The LeBrons wrote
I've always lik...
SCREW YOU SHAQ.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
kroublees

Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 3115 Location: L.A. the best
|
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
yah probably just more wild rumors, to could to be true, but if so go for it MITCH _________________ "To me he is the best player in the world right now. That guy doesn't know fear at all. He doesn't care. He would have won it for the Americans single-handedly." Dirk Nowitzki on Kobe |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Alleyhoops

Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 2784 Location: Culver City California
|
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: |
|
|
forget it. this gm is not capable of pulling off trades for major acquisitions, unless it's top tier laker players that he deals away. he wil continue to lollygag along in the gm minor leagues, making deals regarding second and third tier players. don't expect more from him. that's what we're saddled with. _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
The Laker Link

Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 6018 Location: Highland, UT and Rexburg, ID
|
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: Re: Frnacis maybe!?! |
|
|
| Lamar4MVP wrote: |
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/36729/20050721/orlando_offers_keyon_dooling_a_three_year_$9_million_contract/
| Quote: |
Orlando Offers Keyon Dooling A Three-Year $9 Million Contract
21st July, 2005 - 2:55 am
RealGM - Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress reported exclusively to RealGM that the Orlando Magic have offered Miami Heat free agent Keyon Dooling a three-year $9 million contract.
Givony learned of the offer on Wednesday evening from a source with knowledge of the negotiations.
Dooling, who has averaged 5.8 point per game over his five years in the NBA, has yet to accept the deal, as the Nets are also in the running for his services.
Ohm Youngmisuk of the New York Daily News reported that Dooling had arrived in New Jersey on Wednesday night in prepartion of his visit on Thursday with the Nets.
Whether or not the Nets agree to a sign-and-trade deal with the Blazers for Shareef Abdur-Rahim will likely be the deciding factor on where Dooling eventually signs. If the Nets are forced to use their mid level exception on Abdur-Rahim, then they would be out of the running for Dooling.
Dooling was selected by the Magic in 2000, but was traded to the Clippers on Draft Night.
The 6-3 guard out of Missouri became a key member of Miami's playoff run last season after four uneventful seasons with the Clippers.
Givony also reports that signing Dooling could open things up for the Magic to deal Steve Francis, who has been the subject of trade rumors this summer. Givony's source indicated that the Lakers are one of the teams reportedly very interested in acquiring Francis and that Lamar Odom would definitely not be included in the discussions
|
Read the last Line!!!!! |
Yeah work for Francis but keep Odom...NOW THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR AND GOOD UPGRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________
All GOOD TRADES, started out with a bad idea!!!!!!
F34R GASOL, BYNUM, ODOM, KOBE, FISHER AND THE LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
BrianCook_The_Laker

Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 104 Location: Lincoln, IL
|
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Magic planning future with Francis
Several NBA teams have called the Orlando Magic this summer, wondering about the availability of talented but sometimes tempestuous guard Steve Francis.
None have gotten very far.
When Francis attended the Magic's summer-league games in Las Vegas earlier this month, he met with Magic officials to talk about several things, including the trade rumors that continue to circulate around him.
What he learned from that meeting was that he wasn't going anywhere. But it wasn't just the Magic getting the calls from other teams.
"I'd be misleading you if I said, 'I have not received calls from around the league,' people wondering what Steve wanted to do," said Francis' agent, Jeff Fried, who was vacationing in Florida last week. "The interest from other teams was genuine. But Steve likes Orlando. And based on our discussions with the Magic, they like him here."
The upcoming addition of point guard Keyon Dooling led to one rumor that he could be traded to the Los Angeles Lakers, possibly for Lamar Odom. There was talk about a trade to the Minnesota Timberwolves. There was talk about him going to the Boston Celtics for Paul Pierce.
[More in URL] |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Pray for Laker Wins

Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Location: Lala Land
|
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:55 pm Post subject: Steve |
|
|
Yes, hands down, it would be nice to get Steve...but we're starting to hear talk about Orlando wanting to keep him.
Still, I hope we steal him somehow. _________________ The other kid piped in, "Hey what happened to the Lakers?" "We lost our way," I told them. "We just lost our way at the wrong time." I smiled, got in the car, and started the engine. I headed home. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
eNlight

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 4529 Location: oC
|
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| sign gp with mle and trade him to orlando. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
eNlight

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 4529 Location: oC
|
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| packing gp with expring k's as well to match up stevie's salary. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Showtime is Magic

Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 5801 Location: UC Irvine / Encino, Ca
|
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:36 pm Post subject: I dont' Know |
|
|
| I don't know if Francis can play with KB. Kobe Bryant is the best player in the NBA and if he has a man whos nickname is Franchise on his team AAAAAA i don't know. I sense another fight. If Francis can admit that he not a franchise player and that he is a role player just like he was in Houston with yao than it will work. If not keep him in Orlando. We don't want him |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
methodz23

Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 129
|
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
stevie franchise, god fast break alley`s all day _________________
 |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|