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Crazy LA Fan 14
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Any news or chance of him coming back to LA?
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| another great "trade rumor" thread with no rumor.... and there's already a GP thread here. Stop polluting |
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| Even though he'd do a decent job, I just don't see it. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Gary Payton |
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| Crazy LA Fan 14 wrote: |
| Any news or chance of him coming back to LA? |
I think Emplay addressed this recently in a column...I just can't find it now. Basically, if I remember right, he said that Gary was interested, but Mitch said thanks, but no thanks. Doesn't look like it's going to happen. |
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mitch is an idiot...hes prolly the best available PG at the right price and for a short amount of years....he already knows the triangle and he can play D on the other west guards like nash and parker....stupid stupid mitch
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| mitch is an idiot...hes prolly the best available PG at the right price and for a short amount of years....he already knows the triangle and he can play D on the other west guards like nash and parker....stupid stupid mitch |
Have you ever seen GP in the last 2-3 years? Play D? Knows the triangle?
Best available PG?
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| KB8@CL wrote: |
| FabFourLakers wrote: |
| mitch is an idiot...hes prolly the best available PG at the right price and for a short amount of years....he already knows the triangle and he can play D on the other west guards like nash and parker....stupid stupid mitch |
Have you ever seen GP in the last 2-3 years? Play D? Knows the triangle?
Best available PG?
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I think ur asking questions i just answered. He put the clamps when it counted on guys like Francis, Parker and Cassell/Hudson when he was with us...the only time he didnt was against Billups. Payton is DURABLE, having played in all 82 games for the Lakers in his one season here...he knows the triangle offense or has some knowledge of it (better than DA), hes a big guard which Phil likes, and hes at that stage in his career where he doesnt hafta be the #1 option or even #2 option on the team...if he can produce 13 pts and 6 assists for us a game...then thats a productive season from him...
and yes he is the best available PG....are u saying derek anderson is what we need? an injury prone player who has played what 61 games in the last 2 seasons? Another MAYBE player? atleast if we got payton we'd KNOW what we were getting....if u can name another PG out there who is still available that is BETTER than Payton, let me know
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| Even though he'd do a decent job, I just don't see it. |
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the glove > da
da, injury prone and can't shoot a jumper to save his life. we need a point guard that can consistently shoot the open J.
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the glove > da
da, injury prone and can't shoot a jumper to save his life. we need a point guard that can consistently shoot the open J. |
Please if you have little idea don´t make such comments. DA shot nearly 40% of his 3s last year and he is a WAY BETTER shooter than Payton. Payton can´t hit a jumper to save the future of human being.
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I think ur asking questions i just answered. He put the clamps when it counted on guys like Francis, Parker and Cassell/Hudson when he was with us...the only time he didnt was against Billups. Payton is DURABLE, having played in all 82 games for the Lakers in his one season here...he knows the triangle offense or has some knowledge of it (better than DA), hes a big guard which Phil likes, and hes at that stage in his career where he doesnt hafta be the #1 option or even #2 option on the team...if he can produce 13 pts and 6 assists for us a game...then thats a productive season from him...
and yes he is the best available PG....are u saying derek anderson is what we need? an injury prone player who has played what 61 games in the last 2 seasons? Another MAYBE player? atleast if we got payton we'd KNOW what we were getting....if u can name another PG out there who is still available that is BETTER than Payton, let me know |
please..Payton couldn´t defend ANYONE in the last 2 years. Its ridiculous to say he could challenge Parker, Francis or whoever. ANYONE could shoot the lights up against our cancer Payton. And NO he is not the best PG available. Marco Jaric is better than Payton, Duhon is better than Payton and even Derek Anderson is a better player than Payton if healthy. We saw how GP sucks in the triangle. Payton has only one advantage and thats durability but I would rather have a better player for 65 games then a sucky one for 82.
Payton sucks period. He is a backup right now and is not the old good player. Simple as that. period.
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Payotn can defend now, and that's nothin cuz he's 37 years old, he's still The Glove!!!
Sign him Mitch! I don't wanna see Vujacic as our starting PG!!! Sign Payton & Lue !!! |
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| The Kobe Era 2K5 wrote: |
Payotn can defend now, and that's nothin cuz he's 37 years old, he's still The Glove!!!
Sign him Mitch! I don't wanna see Vujacic as our starting PG!!! Sign Payton & Lue !!! |
No bro. Payton is butter at best. The times of the glove are over. Payton sucks. Have you forgotten how he played in the playoffs as a Laker?
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I think ur asking questions i just answered. He put the clamps when it counted on guys like Francis, Parker and Cassell/Hudson when he was with us...the only time he didnt was against Billups. Payton is DURABLE, having played in all 82 games for the Lakers in his one season here...he knows the triangle offense or has some knowledge of it (better than DA), hes a big guard which Phil likes, and hes at that stage in his career where he doesnt hafta be the #1 option or even #2 option on the team...if he can produce 13 pts and 6 assists for us a game...then thats a productive season from him...
and yes he is the best available PG....are u saying derek anderson is what we need? an injury prone player who has played what 61 games in the last 2 seasons? Another MAYBE player? atleast if we got payton we'd KNOW what we were getting....if u can name another PG out there who is still available that is BETTER than Payton, let me know |
please..Payton couldn´t defend ANYONE in the last 2 years. Its ridiculous to say he could challenge Parker, Francis or whoever. ANYONE could shoot the lights up against our cancer Payton. And NO he is not the best PG available. Marco Jaric is better than Payton, Duhon is better than Payton and even Derek Anderson is a better player than Payton if healthy. We saw how GP sucks in the triangle. Payton has only one advantage and thats durability but I would rather have a better player for 65 games then a sucky one for 82.
Payton sucks period. He is a backup right now and is not the old good player. Simple as that. period. |
HA! ur saying CHRIS DUHON is better than Payton? You cant be serious. And what makes u think DA is gonna put the clamps on the west PGs? U think he can keep up with the likes of nash, parker, terry, etc? At GP's age, hes doin pretty damn good. Even tho hes been reduced to 12 pts and 5 assists, he can STILL defend and hes DURABLE. What kind of thing is that to say that u'd rather have a bette rplayer for 65 games than someone for 82 gameS? OF COURSE we want our players to play all 82 games...why would u want them to miss any games? Atleast we know what we'd be getting with Payton, instead of ANOTHER maybe with DA....Payton is still very much a starter and he led that Celtics team last year whether u like it or not, even tho he wasnt their leading scorer, he made that team of youngsters believe in themselves...payton has LEADERSHIP skills which some of our young players probably need...and right now, we need a PG in the worst way, i know u dont want DEVEAN GEORGE handling the point, and we dont want LO or Kobe bringing the ball up and constantly bein pressured up the court...I dont know why u guys are hating on Payton so much but he would definitely fit our needs better than DA
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Payotn can defend now, and that's nothin cuz he's 37 years old, he's still The Glove!!!
Sign him Mitch! I don't wanna see Vujacic as our starting PG!!! Sign Payton & Lue !!! |
payton was no longer the glove for a long time...hes more like "the mitten" |
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Payotn can defend now, and that's nothin cuz he's 37 years old, he's still The Glove!!!
Sign him Mitch! I don't wanna see Vujacic as our starting PG!!! Sign Payton & Lue !!! |
payton was no longer the glove for a long time...hes more like "the mitten" |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:15 am Post subject: Payton |
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He is in talks to sign with the Suns and back-up Nash.  He says he really wants to play there. I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Gary Payton |
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| mitch is an idiot...hes prolly the best available PG at the right price and for a short amount of years....he already knows the triangle and he can play D on the other west guards like nash and parker....stupid stupid mitch |
Have you ever seen GP in the last 2-3 years? Play D? Knows the triangle?
Best available PG?
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I think ur asking questions i just answered. He put the clamps when it counted on guys like Francis, Parker and Cassell/Hudson when he was with us...the only time he didnt was against Billups. Payton is DURABLE, having played in all 82 games for the Lakers in his one season here...he knows the triangle offense or has some knowledge of it (better than DA), hes a big guard which Phil likes, and hes at that stage in his career where he doesnt hafta be the #1 option or even #2 option on the team...if he can produce 13 pts and 6 assists for us a game...then thats a productive season from him...
and yes he is the best available PG....are u saying derek anderson is what we need? an injury prone player who has played what 61 games in the last 2 seasons? Another MAYBE player? atleast if we got payton we'd KNOW what we were getting....if u can name another PG out there who is still available that is BETTER than Payton, let me know |
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I agree with Mitch. Thanks but no thanks. Doesn't fit with the triangle at all and is getting older. The only good thing about him is that he would fit in for the 07 plan perfectly.
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| say no 2 GP |
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If Mitch signed Aaron McKie, at least we're totally not contradicting ourselves by signing Payton. We're were headed, if Payton buckles down and actually learns the offense unlike a couple years ago when he was got up in the Fab Four show, he'll be great for us. However, what are the chances of him coming back? He probably hates Phil, hates the drama Kobe and the Lakers bring to his personal life, and he can't and wont win a ring in L.A. Be smart. Sign with Phoenix GP.
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| If Mitch signed Aaron McKie, at least we're totally not contradicting ourselves by signing Payton. We're were headed, if Payton buckles down and actually learns the offense unlike a couple years ago when he was got up in the Fab Four show, he'll be great for us. However, what are the chances of him coming back? He probably hates Phil, hates the drama Kobe and the Lakers bring to his personal life, and he can't and wont win a ring in L.A. Be smart. Sign with Phoenix GP. |
not entirely. Payton doesn't hate Kobe, he hated the way LA traded his [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] when he wanted to stay. he wanted to play there last year.
Now he might hate phil for trying to contain his game, then taking him out during certain times, but this is a business. Sometimes you got to work with people you don't like to get the job done. He was more pissed at Laker management though. He knew there wouldn't be no beef once Shaq left |
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| If Mitch signed Aaron McKie, at least we're totally not contradicting ourselves by signing Payton. We're were headed, if Payton buckles down and actually learns the offense unlike a couple years ago when he was got up in the Fab Four show, he'll be great for us. However, what are the chances of him coming back? He probably hates Phil, hates the drama Kobe and the Lakers bring to his personal life, and he can't and wont win a ring in L.A. Be smart. Sign with Phoenix GP. |
not entirely. Payton doesn't hate Kobe, he hated the way LA traded his [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] when he wanted to stay. he wanted to play there last year.
Now he might hate phil for trying to contain his game, then taking him out during certain times, but this is a business. Sometimes you got to work with people you don't like to get the job done. He was more pissed at Laker management though. He knew there wouldn't be no beef once Shaq left |
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| If Mitch signed Aaron McKie, at least we're totally not contradicting ourselves by signing Payton. We're were headed, if Payton buckles down and actually learns the offense unlike a couple years ago when he was got up in the Fab Four show, he'll be great for us. However, what are the chances of him coming back? He probably hates Phil, hates the drama Kobe and the Lakers bring to his personal life, and he can't and wont win a ring in L.A. Be smart. Sign with Phoenix GP. |
not entirely. Payton doesn't hate Kobe, he hated the way LA traded his [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] when he wanted to stay. he wanted to play there last year.
Now he might hate phil for trying to contain his game, then taking him out during certain times, but this is a business. Sometimes you got to work with people you don't like to get the job done. He was more pissed at Laker management though. He knew there wouldn't be no beef once Shaq left |
It doesn't matter if he's infatuated with Kobe. He doesn't fit in with the triangle. We saw that last year, he was to stubborn to learn the offense. He's been running for 15 years and I don't think he should stop for L.A., Kobe, Phil, or anyone. Why not sign with a team who's offense and style he's comfortable with?
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