Why do we play badly in Rose Garden

borri · Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 3069

If we keep playing D like this..........especially this late in the season......oh boy not a good way to head into the playoffs.

Hoping to god Bynum's return cures some of the ills. Cuz right now we look like the Los Angeles Suns.

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kray28 · Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 5109 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

If the rims are tricked, the Lakers need to have an extended shootaround next time before the game.
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sniperdog614 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1046

I think in the 2nd and early 3rd we started becoming a jump shooting team, when we have Pau and a red hot Lamar.

They can't have these extended stretches where they have mental lapses.

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Vasashi17 · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject:

Ducasse1 · Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 178

Lakers get owned at the Rose Garden again. This is like a broken record.

MDI · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject:

lakaboy42 · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 2428 Location: Bay Area

Can anyone clarify? Is this the last time we won a game in Portland?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lgSmpCAq4-4&feature=related
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MDI · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject:

kwembinekwek · Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 1400

Ionno. I'm just pissed off like most of the people here do.

I mean I expected a win with the way the Lakers won over Dallas and how they decimated the Queens.

Maybe they used all the magic up in Sacramento.
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MDI · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject:

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Furious Laker · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject:

It is true we can't play for crap in portland but the fact of the matter is this team hasn't been playing well since the last trip to portland.

I can't believe some people are saying Portland has no weakness. Yeah and I guess that is why they will be sitting at home during the playoffs. Face it we lost to a weaker team. Teams with no weakness usually sit atop their division. Sugar coating the loss by saying the Blazers have no weakness isn't gonna help.

MDI · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject:

kwembinekwek · Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 1400

^true that
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lakeshow2k4 · Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 724

Matchups, bottom line.

Brandon Roy has his way with Kobe, period. Without an Ariza-type player in there, get used to it. It will continue. Kobe shouldn't have to guard the other team's best player. Hell, Roy doesn't guard Kobe, Tmac doesn't guard Kobe, Lebron rarely guards Kobe.
LaMarcus Aldridge's length and ability to shoot from outside DESTROYS the Lakers.
Guarding guys like Steve Blake and Jarret Jack don't seem to be problems for most NBA guards. But we have Fisher (playing on one foot) and Farmar (played like garbage since Critt was traded).
It has nothing to do with the Rose Garden, it has to do with the team playing in it.

BTW, we continue to play no D, and it will be another year of Kobe not getting out of the first round Post-Shaq....

WeLoveLA · Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 490

It's all about matchups, throw POR's record out the window. I hate people who use that argument, this is the NBA. No team is invincible, everyone has a weakness.

For the Lakers it is quick explosive guards and forwards that give us the most trouble. It is no coincidence that we've lost to POR twice, SAC, MEM, and CHA. What do all these teams have in common??? Quick explosive guards and forwards that penetrated at will into our soft middle and kicked out to wide open shooters.

It's a little funny to think about but we need Bynum the most against these sub .500 teams. We can funnel penetration right to him and really put the clamps on the inside-out game that POR likes to do with us. Also, we would own the glass and limit them to one-n-out possessions. Basically we would force them to take poor contested jumpshots since they have no real interior scoring. This is why SAS held them to 66 pts or so when they last played, because Duncan was enough of a presence to deter them from penetrating and kicking out.

z32 · Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 4628 Location: Santa Clarita

Man, I don't know what the heck ALWAYS gets into the Blazers whenever they face us. It's pretty much a guaranteed tough battle whenever we face them. They can suck all season, but you can throw that out the door once they face us. Their guards torch us, Aldridge never misses a shot, and always 1 of their role players has a huge game. It's so crazy.....Yes, I know our defense had a part in why Portland do so well against us......but man, it's like they can't have a bad game against us....EVER!

Man, and with NO losing tonight, we just squandered a HUGE opportunity.

d33pzone · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 973

^^ Yeah and Channing Frye(!) goes off. Career days against the Lakers!

Lqv2015 · Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 2345

You're kidding yourself if you think Portland is a weak team. They're still young & with Oden next year, they're scary.

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Montel Vontavious Porter · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 317

They're simply our Nemesis. Take it this way, if we're the Dallas Mavericks of the 2007 playoffs, then the Blazers would be Golden State Warriors.
They are just a bad matchup for us.

It's a paper rock scissors thing.
We're a finesse team and they're tough, energetic and scrappy. We are not exactly athletic in this setup and all of their athletes more or less are world class.

The things that are good about them just happen to be things that eliminate things that are good about us. Toughness beats softness. Athleticism beats finesse.

They just play very physical with us, clog the lane, defend aggressively, have extra athleticism to give etc.. Too many elements.

We really need Bynum and Ariza back to install back some toughness, defense and athleticism into our team.

Was it a coincidence the Lakers played better with Turiaf on the floor instead of Gasol? No, really, it wasn't.

Montel Vontavious Porter · Joined: 11 Jul 2007 Posts: 317

It's not really true that Portland's got no weaknesses. If you seen them play the Spurs a few days ago, you'd easily would've spotted plenty of them.
They're not always this good.

But all teams look invincible when faced against their perfect matchup where they can create missmatches.

What's the other team we have the most problem with? Detroit. Again, they play the same style. Very physical, intimidating, all players gifted athletes.

Not many teams in the league are like that but they just outmuscle and take us out of our element. Completely take away our passing and finesse guys by bullying us.

Heck, even the Cavs are kinda in the same mold and are known to give us a lot of trouble. Celtics as of this year, too.

Just not our type of teams to play against. We're too finesse for them.

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