Joey Dorsey--my Lakers pick for 08 draft

JSM · by **JSM** on Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:40 pm

Height: 6-9
Weight: 260 pounds
NBA Position: PF

8.7 PPG/9.7 RPG (4.5 off., #2 in the country)/2.3 BPG/1.5 SPG

I know...I know. We haven't even gotten to the 2007 draft and I'm already starting this. But he's such an intriguing prospect and since he's not coming out this year, I thought I'd create a Joey Dorsey watch type thread. He's certainly someone you will want to keep an eye on next year (even though Memphis doesn't get a whole lot of TV coverage playing in Conference USA).

He's built like an ox. He's a tremendous defender in the post. Like Kwame, he's intimidating force in the paint because of his build. He has good timing on his blocks as well. During the Nevada game, there was a 4-3 break but the guard saw Dorsey in the paint waiting for him, so he stopped and pulled up for the J.

He has a great nose for the ball and good hands, which is a large reason as to why he's 2nd in offensive rebounds per game in the nation. He gives Memphis just under 5 second chance possessions per game.

His offense isn't nearly as developed as his defense. But while he irons out that part of his game, he can rely on his bruit strength and athleticism to get buckets. He has good basic footwork (nothing fancy and can improve here) and big hands, so he has the ability to improve on offense. I don't think that will ever be his strength, but I don't foresee it being a weakness for his team.

His biggest weaknesses are that he's a little foul prone (as you might have noticed watching the Memphis vs A&M game) and he shoots just 47% from the stripe.

If you gander at my signature, you can tell I'm a Memphis homer. But even if I wasn't a fan of the team, I'd be a fan of this guy. He's a beast and my favorite player on the team.

There isn't a whole lot of writeups on him at this time, if you were interested in reading up on him. A recent Draft Express article compared his defense and rebounding to Reggie Evans. I think he has a higher ceiling than that though.

JSM · by **JSM** on Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:48 pm

Next up for Joey: Greg Oden on Saturday.

LaLaKeRz4LiFe · by **LaLaKeRz4LiFe** on Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:53 pm

Damn, that guy got hit in the balls.... :man4:

bumrusherer · by **bumrusherer** on Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:15 pm

I wont disagree with you.

He took his jersey off the other day and his frame was remarkable. Still has room to add weight to it.

MikeDead · by **MikeDead** on Fri Mar 23, 2007 10:00 pm

6'9 PF...ehh...could get smacked around a bit in the NBA, if he adds some weight to his frame he might change my opinion on him, but Im not very high on him right now.

The LeBrons · by **The LeBrons** on Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:37 am

JSM wrote:Next up for Joey: Greg Oden on Saturday.

And Joey says he's better than Oden. :man10:

Klewfish · by **Klewfish** on Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:33 pm

The LeBrons wrote:
JSM wrote:Next up for Joey: Greg Oden on Saturday.

And Joey says he's better than Oden.

Dorsey: "Me and Oden are like David and Goliath, and I am Goliath"

Reporter: "You do know Goliath lost?"

:man10:

Klewfish · by **Klewfish** on Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:34 pm

MikeDead wrote:6'9 PF...ehh...could get smacked around a bit in the NBA, if he adds some weight to his frame he might change my opinion on him, but Im not very high on him right now.

Kind of like David Lee? Paul Millsap? Ben Wallace? Kenny Thomas?

Undersized guys are fully capable of making it in the NBA.

live and die in LA · by **live and die in LA** on Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:40 pm

MikeDead wrote:6'9 PF...ehh...could get smacked around a bit in the NBA, if he adds some weight to his frame he might change my opinion on him, but Im not very high on him right now.

He may be only 6-9 but the dude is 260 and of muscle. 6-9 is definitely tall enough to play power forward.

halekulani · by **halekulani** on Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:27 pm

didn't show up for tonight's game.

big mouth, but no show.

0 pts, 4 fouls, 3 rebounds.

KB24 · by **KB24** on Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:25 am

indeed exactly the type of player that we need to replace Cook.

rydjorker121 · by **rydjorker121** on Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:08 pm

He's definitely a 2008 prospect, but I do like him as a player. Very tough player who can carve himself a niche in the NBA with his toughness, tenacity, rebounding and defensive ability. He's a definite bruiser perhaps in the poor man's Ben Wallace mold, because he doesn't really have much of an offensive game and lacks serious touch. Nonetheless, though, I can see a team falling in love with him. Upside is most likely somewhere between Reggie Evans and Ben Wallace.

Force · by **Force** on Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:17 pm

Klewfish wrote:
MikeDead wrote:6'9 PF...ehh...could get smacked around a bit in the NBA, if he adds some weight to his frame he might change my opinion on him, but Im not very high on him right now.

Kind of like David Lee? Paul Millsap? Ben Wallace? Kenny Thomas?

Undersized guys are fully capable of making it in the NBA.

You forgot Elton Brand...he's only 6'8".

Height is definetley overrated. Personally, I take wingspan and vertical into consideration more than height.

Klewfish · by **Klewfish** on Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:15 pm

Force wrote:
Klewfish wrote:
MikeDead wrote:6'9 PF...ehh...could get smacked around a bit in the NBA, if he adds some weight to his frame he might change my opinion on him, but Im not very high on him right now.

Kind of like David Lee? Paul Millsap? Ben Wallace? Kenny Thomas?

Undersized guys are fully capable of making it in the NBA.

You forgot Elton Brand...he's only 6'8".

Height is definetley ove . Personally, I take wingspan and vertical into consideration more than height.

I always forget him. Tyrus Thomas is only 6' 9'' too but has an incredibly long wingspan.

JSM · by **JSM** on Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:34 am

It's official, he's staying in Memphis for his senior year (CDR is staying too).

Draft Express: Big man Joey Dorsey informed DraftExpress' Jonathan Watters today that he will return to Memphis this fall for his senior season. Speculation had emerged that Dorsey, who turned 23 in December, would put his name on the early entry list and attempt to play his way into an NBA guarantee at the Orlando pre-draft camp. In the end, though, Dorsey decided to inform coach John Calipari that he will be returning to Memphis without testing the NBA waters.

Dorsey showed flashes of NBA potential during his junior year, providing a perimeter-heavy Memphis squad that would eventually defeat Nevada and Texas A&M to advance to the Elite Eight with its only traditional presence in the paint. Dorsey overpowered most opponents on the glass and around the rim with a potent mix of explosiveness and power.

But there were several critical weaknesses that kept the already elderly (by NBA Draft standards) Dorsey in school. Dorsey rebounded with lethal effectiveness and consistently attacked the rim with a ferocity rarely seen outside of NBA arenas, but the 7 points, 9 rebounds and 2 blocks aren’t exactly dominating numbers.

Dorsey has been unable to overcome foul problems that have plagued him his entire career and limited him to 25 minutes per game in 06-07. His tendency to get frustrated after being called for one foul often led to another before John Calipari could sub him out, and Dorsey must learn how to restrain himself in situations where his presence on the court is critical to a Memphis win.

He is often compared to Ben Wallace in terms of how he impacts the game at the college level – and this is probably a fair comparison, but there is more to it than athleticism, strength and toughness. Dorsey shot just 46% from the free throw line as a junior, which was a career high. This is a critical issue, because his natural abilities would allow him to get to the line quite a bit more if he could knock them down with any sort of consistency.

Furthermore, Dorsey’s season ended on a sour note after brash comments in the days before his Elite Eight showdown with Greg Oden drew negative attention across the country. Dorsey then failed to back up all the talk, being held scoreless in 19 foul-plagued minutes and putting in his worst effort of the season with his best chance to make a good impression on the line.

This, and a positive situation awaiting him at Memphis also made the decision to return a bit easier. The Tigers really hit their stride as a group in 2006-2007, despite the loss of its three most highly regarded players from the prior season. The backcourt wasn’t as selfish as we have seen from some recent Memphis teams and an aggressive, physical defensive identity (built around Dorsey) began to emerge.

With the core of the team returning - graduated wing Jeremy Hunt is the only projected loss - and elite point guard prospect Derrick Rose en route, Memphis could be on the verge of a national championship run.

Dorsey has some significant work to do over the summer, most importantly in the areas of channeling his aggression level so he can stay on the court, and working on his shooting stroke so he can further take advantage of his physical dominance at the stripe. Nonetheless, he possesses the raw tools that will attract NBA attention very quickly if he can round out the rough edges to his game.

With all the hysteria surrounding Derrick Rose, it should be an interesting season in Memphis. There are several prospects capable of significantly increasing their draft stock if the Tigers make a deep run, and you can bet that if Memphis does make the final four, Dorsey will have been a big part of it. In that case, Dorsey will have improved his draft stock immensely.

JSM · by **JSM** on Sun Mar 09, 2008 2:28 pm

Bump.

He put up 16 &12 yesterday for Senior Day. Hopefully this is him coming out of his funk.

The LeBrons · by **The LeBrons** on Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:55 am

I personally think this guy is an idiot and would be a terrible teammate. He's got a terrible attitude and we don't need another Smush type cancer for a 2nd round pick.

Right now I like Gist from Maryland.

Critical Beatdown · by **Critical Beatdown** on Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:07 pm

Since we only have the low 2nd round pick, if Dorsey is still around he may be a good pick, but I have a feeling that guy will be in the D-League all next season no matter what happens in the draft.

Looking at our roster, and the placement of our pick, we might want to go after a combo guard instead, a 3rd stringer PG type with some upside. Sasha can be our 3rd string PG, but if Fish or Farmar or Sasha were to get hurt for any stretch of time next season, then we're kinda short there, while at every other position we're doing just fine (except again maybe SG, hence the combo guard).

It's hard to find guys that low in the draft, so if it's a big with upside like Dorsey that would be cool, if it's a world player with upside that would be cool, or if we get a guard who can straight ball and shoot like Brian Roberts falling to us, maybe we take a flyer on him (or alternatively a defensive stud guard who needs work offensively - Jamont Gordon?, or a bigger shooting guard like Malik Hairston/Gary Forbes/Josh Shipp, or a versatile combo threat like Lester Hudson, or best yet sign Quinton Hosley as a free agent).

halekulani · by **halekulani** on Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:52 pm

i think a backup center is what we need the most.

Critical Beatdown · by **Critical Beatdown** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:43 am

We won't get anyone late in the 2nd round as ready or as good as DJ.

halekulani · by **halekulani** on Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:04 am

if one of the lopez brothers decides to declare this year, i would definitely look at picking him up. with bynum and gasol in the front court, any young big straight out of college will benefit plenty from them.

SSpyder · by **SSpyder** on Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:18 pm

The LeBrons wrote:I personally think this guy is an idiot and would be a terrible teammate. He's got a terrible attitude and we don't need another Smush type cancer for a 2nd round pick.

Right now I like Gist from Maryland.

Dorsey defends,rebounds,and gets garbage baskets.

By defintion that is not a cancer.

How is that anything like Smush?

Dorsey has legit PF size.

Gist is a classic tweener. We have too many of those.

He has good size for a SF but has only PF skills.

He is a classic long term project. To transition him to the 3.

I rather have a garbage man 4 that can help on day one of the 08-09 season.

Kobe Bryant 8 · by **Kobe Bryant 8** on Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:08 am

Like I said in a thread about our second round pick..

I'd look at Joey Dorsey in the second round, but I doubt he'd fall to us.

He could be a nice combo big for us. Potential is there; he's low risk with that big body and defensive mentality.

Critical Beatdown · by **Critical Beatdown** on Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:22 am

SSpyder wrote:
The LeBrons wrote:I personally think this guy is an idiot and would be a terrible teammate. He's got a terrible attitude and we don't need another Smush type cancer for a 2nd round pick.

Right now I like Gist from Maryland.

Dorsey defends,rebounds,and gets garbage baskets.

By defintion that is not a cancer.

None of that has anything to do with being a cancer, or the definition of cancer.

PnOySneakerBoi24 · by **PnOySneakerBoi24** on Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:49 pm

danny green from UNC... could probably replace luke? anyone from this... any player from UCLA too would be great

Joey Dorsey--my Lakers pick for 08 draft

Joey Dorsey--my Lakers pick for 08 draft

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