LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby trodgers on Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:13 am

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SCORING EFFICIENCY (Dwight Howard 6.3)
Bynum 6.2
Gasol 5.8
Hill 5.4
Murphy 4.1
-Andrew Bynum scored as efficiently as any Center in the game. Gasol was likewise in rare company. Even Jordan Hill's performance was strong (compare to Marc Gasol's 5.5). Troy Murphy, who should not play Center, unfortunately did at times. The results were pretty unfortunate. He struggles to create a shot and is best as a spot-up shooter.

PASSING EFFICIENCY (Pau 2.9 / Marc 2.8)
Gasol 2.9
Murphy 2.2
Bynum 1.9
Hill 1.5
-Pau Gasol turns in top marks for PAFF. His brother is just behind him, and then there is a bit of a gap among the big names at Center. Murphy's 2.2 was solid for a Center, besting, for instance, Dwight Howard (2.1) and Tyson Chandler (1.6). Andrew Bynum struggled as he saw double teams on a routine basis for the first time in his career. He will have to improve that number if he is going to be the premiere big in the league.


HUSTLE EFFICIENCY (Dwight/Hibbert 3.8)
Hill 4.5
Bynum 3.5
Gasol 3.2
Murphy 2.5
-Jordan Hill was again off the charts (and very strong even across the full season, where his HUFF was still 3.7). The top Centers were all in the 3.6-3.8 range, so Bynum's number is strong. Gasol's is all but identical with his brother's, but it is below Hibbert's, Chandler's, and Howard's. Troy Murphy fouled too much and didn't block enough shots to be effective.

OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY
Bynum 99
Hill 97
Gasol 94
Murphy 51
-Compare to some of the top Cs in the league: Dwight 108, Hibbert 96, Marc Gasol 88, Tyson Chandler 83. Andrew Bynum posted a dominant Offensive Efficiency score, bettter than all but Dwight Howard among big names. Gasol was not far behind, and was clearly in elite territory as well. Hill's number falls to 82 if we include his full season's stats, but that was still a strong performance. Troy Murphy is so far behind it is easy to see the kind of dropoff LA had to deal with when he manned the 5-spot.

CONTRACT SITUATION
The Lakers picked up Bynum's option for next year. He will receive $16.5M. Pau Gasol has two years and $38M remaining on his contract. The Lakers hold a Team Option on Jordan Hill at $3.6M. Troy Murphy becomes a Free Agent.

ANALYSIS
Although many were disapointed by the way he finished the season, Andrew Bynum will almost certainly be LA's starting Center next year (and for years to come). He is clearly one of the best bigs in the league (arguably second best). Pau Gasol is less likely to return, and he is best suited as a Power Forward on a roster including Bynum. Gasol is the player most likely to be dealt, it seems. Jordan Hill could be a great backup, and he might even be a decent starter. It is always difficult to judge, as his numbers were often posted against backups, so the projectibility is questionable. Troy Murphy could fit into LA's schemes, but it seems very unlikely that he will return. He failed to score with the exception of a few games at the beginning of the season, he is aging, and he cannot defend.
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:14 am

Bynum had a great season this year. Definitely something that lays a solid foundation of him to work on his weaknesses this offseason. If he can comeback next season with a solid handle on countering the double teams (passing, spin jumper to the baseline) and developing that 12-15 footer he was talking about he will put up some big numbers next season.

What hurt Bynum this season and his image IMO, was the fact Brown would run him in 12 minute stretches and some games he wouldn't get a break the whole second half. You can't do that with a big man or anyone for that matter. If Bynum is run in 7-8 minute stretches in quarters 1-3, likewise with Kobe, he will be fresh for the 4th and overall he will have more energy throughout the game. That will only lead to better play on both ends and this "lazy" outlook on Bynum will go away.

Conditioning in the offseason is always a good thing for a big man. Bynum seems like a guy that is always working on that, so if he could come in next season with enough gas to go hard for 5 minutes longer per game, that would a major plus for him.

On to Hill....

Looking at the numbers at both the PF and C spots, Hill did work with his time he got on the Lakers. Even taking into account his overall year and his output, he put up numbers that would make him a solid backup for this team. The only question is, was it because of a contract year or because he found his role/niche on a team? I'm hoping he's found his role/niche because we need and will need every bit of his hustle/energy going forward.

If the FO can get a couple scorers off the bench, having Hill/McFly/Ebanks there to do the dirty work (defense/hustle/energy/rebounding), it will make our team that much stronger and balanced.

And as always nice work again TRodgers. :jam2:
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby trodgers on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:22 am

Doc Brown wrote:Bynum had a great season this year. Definitely something that lays a solid foundation of him to work on his weaknesses this offseason. If he can comeback next season with a solid handle on countering the double teams (passing, spin jumper to the baseline) and developing that 12-15 footer he was talking about he will put up some big numbers next season.

I really wish I could find stats broken down by quarter, but I haven't been able to yet. If he figures out the double, he'll be unstoppable.

What hurt Bynum this season and his image IMO, was the fact Brown would run him in 12 minute stretches and some games he wouldn't get a break the whole second half. You can't do that with a big man or anyone for that matter. If Bynum is run in 7-8 minute stretches in quarters 1-3, likewise with Kobe, he will be fresh for the 4th and overall he will have more energy throughout the game. That will only lead to better play on both ends and this "lazy" outlook on Bynum will go away.

I think you're right. Brown has to find a way to put his foot down with the big guys. PJ knew how to do it; maybe Brown can figure it out.

Looking at the numbers at both the PF and C spots, Hill did work with his time he got on the Lakers. Even taking into account his overall year and his output, he put up numbers that would make him a solid backup for this team. The only question is, was it because of a contract year or because he found his role/niche on a team? I'm hoping he's found his role/niche because we need and will need every bit of his hustle/energy going forward.

Good question. The short answer is that he has scored about that well his whole career. He has passed that poorly his whole career. His hustle numbers are not good because he fouls a good deal. He has posted an Offensive Efficiency around 60 consistently, good enough for a backup.

If the FO can get a couple scorers off the bench, having Hill/McFly/Ebanks there to do the dirty work (defense/hustle/energy/rebounding), it will make our team that much stronger and balanced.

Totally agree. We need to find a way to add some offensive fire power without losing too much elsewhere (Gasol can get it done!).

And as always nice work again TRodgers. :jam2:

Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby Rooscooter on Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:44 pm

Hmmm.... I'm not a stat hound that's for sure.... but these are interesting in that Bynum out hustled Pau and was more efficient in offensive rating.

Overall what it shows is that we have arguable the top center in the league all things considered..... Iron out those attitude issues and get a SF and shooter off the bench and we can put a better team out there IMO....
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby therealdeal on Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:50 am

^ I think Artest is actually good enough to be the starting SF again for next season given that he comes into the season in shape.

He is Kobe's right hand man right now for this team and unless they can turn Gasol into a SF (I don't think that's going to happen with Sessions opting out) then Artest is definitely good enough right now to be the man here.
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby trodgers on Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:34 am

I like to post these stats because they no doubt say SOMETHING. I don't think they show us how good a player is, but they might well tell us about his performance. How good was the performance of our Centers? Well, Bynum's was excellent, Gasol's too, and Hill did nice things in a short time with us.

Bynum is young, and it looks like he's adding something to his game every year he has the chance. I love to see that. I'm excited to see what he can do next year. A kind of wish list:

1. Stay healthy
2. Do everything at least as well as last year
3. Improve reading/reacting to the double
4. Play a bit smarter D (he had a bunch of questionable calls go against him, but if he improves his technique, he'll get fewer of those questionable calls)
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Re: LA Positional Analysis: Center (Trodgers)

Postby Battle Tested20 on Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:40 pm

Nice work trodgers. I'm really looking forward to see how much Drew has improved from a passing standpoint next year.
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