JKsnoots wrote:As far as the Atlanta situation, it's the same thing as Seattle. Odom is not going to be a mainstay and is probably going to be traded afterwards for picks. In a such case, if there is no room for Odom, I think we could see a multi team deal take place. I should have noted that before.
Odom to ATL doesn't make sense for the Hawks. They can get better picks for the younger guys. They aren't going to trade for a player only to trade him for picks. They aren't going to trade for a player that takes away time from developing their young top 5 pick. They aren't going to trade for a player that plays the same position as two of their core pieces. If the problem is salary, they can get expirings contracts, and not have to give up NEARLY as much value. In addition, Odom hurts their ability to resign Smith because of his large 13,000,000 due next year. Remember, Atlanta does not want to spend large amounts of money.
As far as a multi-team deal, maybe, but who, what, and why?
The necessity for another point guard in Atlanta does not make sense to me at all. Why in the world would Knight commit such an acquisition when he's already loaded with guards? It doesn't look like they're going to make the playoffs, so there's no urgency for a starting point guard. They can get one during the draft or trade for one in the summer.
You're still seeing it as another PG. They still need a STARTING PG. As far as getting one during the draft, they have their PG of the future. They need a PG for now. They aren't that far away from being a playoff team.
The popular belief within Chicago is that they want Gasol not Wilcox. Gasol has the playoff experience and the presence to take the Bulls to the next level. Though Wilcox is a candidate, I doubt the Bulls are headed that direction. As far as Wilcox coming to the Lakers, I think we would have to update the trade by inserting Turiaf. Odom along with Mihm or Sasha and the 1st rounder will not get it done.
I'm aware of that, but if Gasol fails, or if Seattle is going to trade Wilcox for cheap, then Chicago can offer a much better deal than anything we are going to offer. You're assuming that teams will trade Odom for picks. You're assuming that we can't get good value for Odom. If that's the case, why don't these teams simply cut LA out of the deal, and use their higher valued pieces to get better draft picks? Seattle doesn't want Odom for any reason. They don't need another ball dominant player to take away touches from Green and Durant. They want to accelerate those players development not hinder it.
The Foster trade pretty much consist of the same issue. As of right now, if Odom does not improve his game, he will most likely be had for cheap. I agree with you that this trade won't help us but realistically this is one of the few options that presents itself.
I agree. That's why we don't move Odom.
The Harrington trade, in my opinion, is somewhat exaggerated. I don't think they're willing to give us Harrington, Pietrus, and a 1st rounder for Odom. It would have been done already without any regrets. Like I said before, if Odom continues to play horribly, we are not getting anything that helps the ballclub.
Hey, this is coming from Golden State
. It could be that their fans are undervaluing their own pieces. I don't know.
However, I have seen several knowledgable Golden State fans suggest these two trades at realgm.com:
A) Harrington, Pietrus, Ellis for Odom, Crittenton, 1st
B) Harrington, Pietrus, 1st for Odom
As far as B, one guy could be quoted as saying, "At the most, we'd give Harrington, Pietrus, and a 1st."
There is a widespread belief in GS that Odom would be fantastic in their system.