Andrew Bynum Getting Lazy On the Boards

Turbo wrote:Yes, I prefer Dwight over Bynum because Bynum doesn't work hard for rebounds, is always the last up the floor, and is slow as molasses in his defensive rotations.

Rooscooter wrote:

lakerholic wrote:He continues to be immature. That's the biggest problem for me. That 3 pointer at the end, holding his hand cocked as if it meant something, followed by him laughing to the locker room was just utter BS. Someone should've taken him aside and chided him for that.

Wow, you got 30 points; where was the D? Where was the rebounding?

But at least he "got his."...

Yeah.... The player that's elevated his game all season is "immature" and needs to be "chided".... Immature is what Barnes did to get a T..... not smiling after hitting your first 3 in your career... I'm not a big fan of the move but at the same time I'm not looking at it and saying it's a character flaw.......

He didn't have a complete game last night..... neither did Pau or Kobe and everyone seems to be blinded by the love fest for Sessions that they can't see that his defense is atrocious. Most of the time Drew was covering his man on the perimeter because Sessions won't go over a screen to save his life.....

lakerholic wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:

lakerholic wrote:He continues to be immature. That's the biggest problem for me. That 3 pointer at the end, holding his hand cocked as if it meant something, followed by him laughing to the locker room was just utter BS. Someone should've taken him aside and chided him for that.

Wow, you got 30 points; where was the D? Where was the rebounding?

But at least he "got his."...

Yeah.... The player that's elevated his game all season is "immature" and needs to be "chided".... Immature is what Barnes did to get a T..... not smiling after hitting your first 3 in your career... I'm not a big fan of the move but at the same time I'm not looking at it and saying it's a character flaw.......

He didn't have a complete game last night..... neither did Pau or Kobe and everyone seems to be blinded by the love fest for Sessions that they can't see that his defense is atrocious. Most of the time Drew was covering his man on the perimeter because Sessions won't go over a screen to save his life.....

Sorry, he's immature. And he has a track record. Do we really need to argue this point?

Just last week he got two ts for arguing with refs, failed to leave the court in an timely manner because he was high-fiving a row of fans on the way out, and then went to the bus, put his headphones on and waited for his teammates to arrive. He admitted he didn't know who won or lost until the team got to the bus.He further compounded his immature behavior by saying he wouldn't say he had anything to do with the loss because the Lakers built up a lead after he was ejected. Say what?! You are the anchor of the team, OF COURSE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IF YOU ARE ON THE FLOOR OR NOT!

And I don't really need to remind you of Game 4 last year, right?

But, wow, he's averaging 18pts and 12 rebounds, so it's not his fault if he has a bad game.

He hasn't boarded well the past 3 games, and he still can't figure out double-teams. And, yes, as the last line of defense for this team it is his job to clean up after other people's messes, including that of Kobe and Sessions.

All I am asking is for him to act mature. Instead, we are getting quotes about him needing to "get his" etc, FIRST and then... "I need to pay better defense"

For me, this isn't a Dwight over Bynum thing, it's a maturity thing. And he's immature. Maybe he'll get it one day, he sure as hell is trying hard to learn post moves, etc... I just wish he tried as hard to not be a clown.

Rooscooter wrote:
Working on post moves is not "immature" or at least evidence of it. He's the most efficient scorer we have and in the league for that matter.... What had you rather he practiced..... not showing emotion when he's obviously hacked 3 or 4 times in a row?.... Hasn't worked for Kobe or numerous others in the league yet Andrew's immature when he does it. Individuals practice offensive moves..... teams practice blocking out and defensive schemes.... unless the coach emphasizes it and actually practices it you can't practice a defensive scheme by yourself.

lakerfan2 wrote:If Bynum isn't mature, than Dwight is a fetus.

lakerfan2 wrote:If Bynum isn't mature, than Dwight is a fetus.

lakerholic wrote:

Rooscooter wrote:
Working on post moves is not "immature" or at least evidence of it. He's the most efficient scorer we have and in the league for that matter.... What had you rather he practiced..... not showing emotion when he's obviously hacked 3 or 4 times in a row?.... Hasn't worked for Kobe or numerous others in the league yet Andrew's immature when he does it. Individuals practice offensive moves..... teams practice blocking out and defensive schemes.... unless the coach emphasizes it and actually practices it you can't practice a defensive scheme by yourself.

You misunderstood me here. I was paying him a complement. What I was trying to say is that hopefully he works as hard on his maturity as he has been on his post moves.

lakerfan2 wrote:If Bynum isn't mature, than Dwight is a fetus.

karacha wrote:I agree that he should rebound better. He can do it easily, but sometimes there is absolutely no effort.

odom1year wrote:Honestly, Kobe is lazy in defense all year long. Did anyone notice that ?

BadCoaching wrote:Kobe has been very passive on defense since the start of 10/11 season. Phil had him shoveling his assignments into the lane and the bigs were trying do the dirty work while Kobe nursed the bad knee. I don't think we'll ever see him guard like he once did, it's a way for him to conserve energy and he seems to be fine with the gamble. It does hurt the team, sometimes very much so when his man is draining open 3's.

odom1year wrote:Honestly, Kobe is lazy in defense all year long. Did anyone notice that ?

TIME wrote:

odom1year wrote:Honestly, Kobe is lazy in defense all year long. Did anyone notice that ?

Left to myself I would be completely blind to Kobe's many flaws and faults due to my fanboyism. Thankfully I have you to point each of them out for me.

odom1year wrote:Honestly, I am a Kobe hating troll that is only in here after losses. Did anyone notice that ?