Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:40 pm

These disgusting crybabies! Guess screwing us with Paul and the new CBA wasn't enough, with the Lakers now in total disarray, as now it's starting up again.

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Report: NBA general manager concerned Dante Exum will force his way to Lakers
Dan Feldman Feb 27, 2014, 12:08 PM EST

A draft prospect who grew up overseas really wanted to play for the Los Angeles Lakers. But a team drafting before the Lakers also wanted the player. So, the player threated to sign with a foreign team if he couldn’t go to the Lakers.

Safe to say, the Nets wish they had called Kobe Bryant’s bluff/threat (or if you prefer, threat/bluff) and drafted him before the Charlotte Hornets did on behalf of Los Angeles in 1996.

Eighteen years, could the scenario repeat itself?

Dante Exum is working out in Los Angeles preparing for the draft, and he’s said the Lakers would be his ideal fit. Via Jared Zwerling of Bleacher Report:

“Definitely L.A. is one option,” he said. “I’ve been to L.A. many times and I love the city, and it is a great city. If I get the opportunity to go to L.A. and play for the Lakers, I know I’ll have love for the city. And their fans are loyal and they have the rivalry with the Clippers. But just to be in an environment where you have a great player like Kobe, where you have a mentor in a way as a rookie, I think that would be the best option.”

Maybe that’s an idle assessment, but maybe it’s the first step of a a bluff/threat (or if you prefer, threat/bluff). After all Exum’s agent is Rob Pelinka, who also represents Kobe (though Arn Tellem represented Kobe as a draft prospect in 1996).

At least one general manager is concerned. Sean Deveney of Sporting News:

But would Exum go so far as to try to angle his way onto the Lakers, who currently have the fifth-worst record in the NBA? That’s the concern among some front-office executives around the league.

“When you hear some of what he says, it does make you wonder how the process is going to go as far as workouts and that sort of thing,” one general manager told Sporting News. “We have seen this story before, of course. I am not sure a player can have that kind of control, though.”

I like Exum as a draft prospect, and I like his fit with the Lakers. (As long as we’re speculating, especially with Kevin Love also joining the tam.)

But Exum might also perform best if he starts his career at shooting guard and eases his way into playing point guard. In Los Angeles, Kobe Bryant obviously has shooting guard locked down. And can the Lakers depend on Steve Nash to become a viable starting point guard again in the meantime?

If the Lakers can remain patient through another season – especially if it includes developing Exum through his growing pains – they’ll be better off in the long run. But will Kobe tolerate another losing season as his career winds down? Will the Los Angeles fans? The Lakers haven’t had back-to-back losing seasons in 20 years.

If Kobe is most-concerned about his legacy, and I think he is, he should focus on winning another title – and passing Michael Jordan for third on the all-time scoring list. The latter would require fewer than 12 points per game in Kobe’s next 50 contests, so that’s inevitable if Kobe can get back on the court.

Back to the championship.

No matter how the Lakers focus on building the strongest team possible next season, I can’t see them creating a title contender. So, Kobe should want them to focus on 2015-16, the final year of his contract extension.

By his second season, Dwyane Wade was the best player on a team that reached Game 7 of the conference finals, pulling an aging but still effective Shaquille O’Neal with him. Could Exum and Kobe fill that role in two years? It’s a longshot, but it might be Kobe’s best shot of getting his sixth title – along with the the Lakers waiting until 2015 to pursue a stronger crop of free agents (including Love).

First, though, the Lakers would actually have to get Exum. Exum and Pelinka can turn down workouts and try to threaten Exum’s way to the Lakers, but the Lakers can do much more themselves to get into position to draft him.

At 19-39, the Lakers are on pace to have the league’s fourth-best lottery odds. Lose a few more games down the stretch, the chance to nab Exum only increases.

As the the chance to draft Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle or anyone else. It’s early in the process. I doubt the Lakers even know yet whom they prefer.

If the interest with Exum is mutual, he and the Lakers can explore exploiting the draft process later. For now, the Lakers should focus on tanking and evaluating, and Exum should focus on developing.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Rooscooter on Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:50 pm

If he is doing this behind the scenes then they have a right to complain....as does the league to look into it. To this day I cannot stand the Denver Broncos or their cry baby QB who pulled that crap......


It's good for the Lakers I guess if he's that good..... But not for the league as a whole.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:23 pm

Right, you would have all these guys coming out in the next decade wanting specifically to play with Kobe. Said sarcastically, not necessarily at you, but just with frustration in general about how deep Lakers hate runs and how long they want us buried.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby 432J on Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:24 pm

if the lakers got a top 3 pick and a chance to draft wiggins, parker, or embiid, why do people think they'd automatically go for exum?

is he even as good or better than the 3 i mentioned above?
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby revgen on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:14 pm

Rooscooter wrote:If he is doing this behind the scenes then they have a right to complain....as does the league to look into it. To this day I cannot stand the Denver Broncos or their cry baby QB who pulled that crap......


It's good for the Lakers I guess if he's that good..... But not for the league as a whole.


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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby thisbjgz on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:22 pm

Exuum is the biggest mystery pick of the whole draft..he doesnt play for a college in the US so his stock will not really rise or drop..with that said he can have the highest ceiling but also be the biggest bust of the draft cause of his unorthodox body and athleticism.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Doc Brown on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:36 pm

If I had to play out my rookie contract and then play out my RFA contract, with virtually no say in the matter, I'd want to be somewhere nice like the Lakers too. But you go where you are drafted.

I don't think I could fault him if a GM asked him if they drafted him would he stay. It's actually better for them in the long run if he tells them no right off the bat. The team that would draft him still has at least 5 years to convince him otherwise, so his opinion on if he likes it there or not, might not hold that much water.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby angrypuppy on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:57 pm

OK, I haven't seen much of Exum, other than one game and some highlights. He looks like someone with a high basketball IQ; he isn't athletic but he simply knows how to play the game and how to use his (undersized) body to create space to get his shot off. The lack of athleticism and skinny body are really his only downsides.

BUT...

Wouldn't it be funny if Pelinka was orchestrating this move in order to hide Exum's lack of athleticism? In other words, if Exum skips workouts ostensibly because he wants to be drafted by the Lakers, but actually Pelinka is painting a picture for the GMs so that they draft Exum with one of the top picks without fully understanding his limitations?

Just a fun theory.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:09 pm

Where are you getting this lack of athleticism from? I thought that had been debunked solidly in the Tank talk / Who do you want to draft thread?
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Frank Dux on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:45 pm

^Exum is pretty fast, but he doesn't seem to have elite verticality, or explosiveness. He seems rather crafty though.

He can force his way all he wants, but if we're in the top 3, I don't think we're taking him. He's the 4th-5th guy in this years draft IMO.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Barnstable on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:51 pm

Couldn't he refuse the draft and come as a walk in during camp?
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby D.B. Cooper on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:53 pm

Barnstable wrote:Couldn't he refuse the draft and come as a walk in during camp?

Pelinka probably wouldn't let him lose 1st round pick money.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Barnstable on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:56 pm

D.B. Cooper wrote:
Barnstable wrote:Couldn't he refuse the draft and come as a walk in during camp?

Pelinka probably wouldn't let him lose 1st round pick money.


The CBA specifies walkins can only make so much?
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby D.B. Cooper on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:05 pm

Barnstable wrote:
D.B. Cooper wrote:
Barnstable wrote:Couldn't he refuse the draft and come as a walk in during camp?

Pelinka probably wouldn't let him lose 1st round pick money.


The CBA specifies walkins can only make so much?

Not sure, but if he's "un drafted" he'd probably get a Sacre type of contract. But maybe our resident CBA experts might know.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Daikatana on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:11 pm

Couldn't he refuse the draft and come as a walk in during camp?

Not sure, but if he's "un drafted" he'd probably get a Sacre type of contract. But maybe our resident CBA experts might know.


Man, that would be the greatest Pipe in the mutha f'n world if Exum can go undrafted and then come to the Lakers, while the Lakers get someone like Wiggins or Embiid with their first round draft pick...

Exum/Wiggns - Could be potential MJ/Scottie Comparison
Exum/Embiid - Mirror of Kobe and Shaq

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Pelinka probably wouldn't let him lose 1st round pick money.


Couldn't the Lakers pay Pelinka under the table the % if he would have gotten if Exum was a first round pick? Best of both worlds in my view. One gets their money and the other gets the team they want. :jam2: :bow:
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby D.B. Cooper on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:19 pm

Would be nice to see Pop, Grease face and Cubes go ballistic.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Daikatana on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:23 pm

Would be nice to see Pop, Grease face and Cubes go ballistic.


Such a fangasmic thought... :jam2:

I'm just hoping that Kobe is doing a bunch of wooing right now on Sexum Exum, and possibly using that 24 million for good use to his agent... :bow:

If that were true, I'd forgive Kobe's contract :man10: :man10: :man10:
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Barnstable on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:30 pm

Daikatana wrote:
Would be nice to see Pop, Grease face and Cubes go ballistic.


Such a fangasmic thought... :jam2:

I'm just hoping that Kobe is doing a bunch of wooing right now on Sexum Exum, and possibly using that 24 million for good use to his agent... :bow:

If that were true, I'd forgive Kobe's contract :man10: :man10: :man10:


Sexum!! :man10: :bow: :jam2:

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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby KB24 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:47 pm

I'm afraid that Exum will be the biggest bust in the draft. He has the highest bust probability among the top 5.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Center Court on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:54 pm

KB24 wrote:I firmly believe that Exum will be the biggest bust in the draft. He certainly has the highest bust probability, even ahead of Wiggins.


The one thing that makes me think that he wouldn't bust is the way he's already said he wants to learn from Kobe and asked Mayweather at the Laker game what it takes to be great.

Those comments make me think he's willing to go whatever lengths it takes to be great. Will it happen, who knows.

If we want the lowest bust potential the answer is Parker.
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby LTLakerFan on Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:08 pm

Barnstable wrote:
Daikatana wrote:
Would be nice to see Pop, Grease face and Cubes go ballistic.


Such a fangasmic thought... :jam2:

I'm just hoping that Kobe is doing a bunch of wooing right now on Sexum Exum, and possibly using that 24 million for good use to his agent... :bow:

If that were true, I'd forgive Kobe's contract :man10: :man10: :man10:


Sexum!! :man10: :bow: :jam2:

Best nickname ever lol!!


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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby Barnstable on Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:32 pm

^ :man10: :man10:
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby kenzo on Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:59 am

To this day i remember what Francis did to Vancouver :man12: It's not that hard...
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby khmrP on Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:24 am

KB24 wrote:I'm afraid that Exum will be the biggest bust in the draft. He has the highest bust probability among the top 5.


what are you basing that on?
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Re: Another GM already crying about Dante Exum

Postby KB24 on Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:13 am

A 6'6'' PG...how many of those have we seen that have been very successful in the last 10-15 years?

He is in danger of becoming a SG with some handling capabilities...I have an 18/4/4 player in mind. Look at other tall PGs...all have been converted to SGs or even SFs...Tyreke Evans comes to mind, Jamal Crawford comes to mind, Rodney Stuckey comes to mind...all converts after failing to be able to contain PGs and actually play like a real PG. Even a guy like Brandon Roy came in as a PG and ended up as a SG/SF. None of these tall guys remains a successful PG. And to be honest, a great PG is worth a lot more than a very good SG with ball handling and passing skills unless that SG turns into a Kobe/MJ caliber player.

Another guy who failed was Linvingston. Even before his freak injury that ruined his career, he didn't have amazing success as PG even though he did have great passing ability.

Also Exum has never played in the US so coming from another continent always has a risk element to it.
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