Antawn Jamison Discussion: Cockroach

khmrP wrote:

XXIV wrote:

Lakerjones wrote:I think Jamison will be fine as long as Mike Brown plays him correctly. I don't think he should be spending much time at the 3.

So then Jamison won't be fine?

Basically, yeah. He's going to be another Brown casualty at this point if he continues to play him out of position. Too bad. He actually played pretty decently last night for the most part on offense. He needs to backup at the 4 though, please. Before the preseason started I thought he might be able to play some at the 3, but I think he can't keep up on the defensive end at that position at all any more. Better to create a mismatch on the other end as he's still pretty quick for a 4.

He looked good in flashes, but he wasn't what we needed from him. I feel like he's handcuffing himself just as much as Brown is, so that's not an excuse.

He has to be aggressive. And of course he has to get touches. I don't remember seeing him with the ball very often last night.

Should play mostly at the 4, and only occasionally at the 3.

He is the evidence that Brown is doing awful rotation, Brown wanted the big 4 playing together, with no place for Jamison at the 4. And then playing almost the whole second unit for garbage time.

The key for rotations should be combining 2-3 of the big 4 with 2-3 of the second unit. That way you can take the best from Kobe and Nash, and give enough rest to Gasol.

only reason why he's playing 3 and not 4 is bc mb wants starters in with the bench and in order to have Jordan hill and either Pau or Dwight, Jamison would have to play the 3 and Ebanks gets shafted. so I think that if Nash and Kobe are in with Ebanks Jamison and Hill at the 3,4,5 than I think they'd be Okay. Blake Meeks Jamison Hill and Dwight is also a good unit but doesn't utilize Jamison as much but it did work last night. Blake got 6 assists...that's more than Nash and Blake's playing with the bench. that shows how little nah handles the ball. with the 2nd unit Blake has the ball all the time. that's what Nash needs.

If we have Dwight in the game, why not play Jamison as a stretch 4? This is what Dwight needs, and what Jamison prefers to play anyway. You can have Nash/Meeks/Ebanks/Jamison/Dwight. Shooters, slasher, post player. Or Blake/Kobe/Ebanks/Jamison/Pau (or Dwight or Hill). You have everything this way: shooting, passing, slashing, finishing and Jamison finally gets green light to chuck shots if Kobe can't for some reason (players like Blake and Pau certainly won't complain about him shooting it). Is this really that complicated?

karacha wrote:Is this really that complicated?

We are talking Mike Brown here...

karacha wrote:If we have Dwight in the game, why not play Jamison as a stretch 4? This is what Dwight needs, and what Jamison prefers to play anyway. You can have Nash/Meeks/Ebanks/Jamison/Dwight. Shooters, slasher, post player. Or Blake/Kobe/Ebanks/Jamison/Pau (or Dwight or Hill). You have everything this way: shooting, passing, slashing, finishing and Jamison finally gets green light to chuck shots if Kobe can't for some reason (players like Blake and Pau certainly won't complain about him shooting it). Is this really that complicated?

Uh, you left Metta out of these rotations. He has to have the ball 7-10 seconds on each offensive possession to dribble then chuck up a shot. He's the team chucker, not Jamison. At least that's how its been playing out so far.

this dude is washed up garbage

Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

What the hell happened to this guy? He's a ghost right now, absolutely invisible out there, doesn't even look like he WANTS to be involved.

What kind of comparison is that?!

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

karacha wrote:What kind of comparison is that?!

A ridiculous one, but are you really surprised?

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Dude you were the one that compared the two of them and said Jamison would match Harden.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your mental retardation again.

That's a personal attack and it's not allowed here. You want to argue keep it civil, if you can't refrain from name calling you will be warned for it.

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Randomest Comparison Ever

Doc Brown wrote:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Dude you were the one that compared the two of them and said Jamison would match Harden.

Ugh I never said Jamison was as good as a Harden I said last year that he matched Harden points wise that's it. That's all I said, but this a** clown is comparing a Harden who is now starting to Jamison who is a reserve.

karacha wrote:What kind of comparison is that?!

made me laugh...at least it helps the pain go away for a min....lol

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Dude you were the one that compared the two of them and said Jamison would match Harden.

Ugh I never said Jamison was as good as a Harden I said last year that he matched Harden points wise that's it. That's all I said, but this a** clown is comparing a Harden who is now starting to Jamison who is a reserve.

Look man, you are talking about a 23 year old superstar who is about to hit his prime to a guy who is going to be retiring at the end of the year. harden and jamison shouldnt even be in the same country right now no matter how much they scored last year. The only reason why Harden wasnt starting in OKC was because they had westbrook, not because he wasnt a starter. Harden has been holding his game back since he went to OKC. As you saw tonight, harden will be a mega star for the next decade. Just sayin...

karacha wrote:What kind of comparison is that?!

My bad! I guess I should have been more clear. It was a poke at Texas Lakers Fan because he compared the two a few weeks back (when Harden was still on OKC) and said that Jamison could match Harden production wise.

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Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

Doc Brown wrote:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Dude you were the one that compared the two of them and said Jamison would match Harden.

Ugh I never said Jamison was as good as a Harden I said last year that he matched Harden points wise that's it. That's all I said, but this a** clown is comparing a Harden who is now starting to Jamison who is a reserve.

You said "production wise", but even if we're talking about points wise...

edit: you weren't talking about last season, you were talking for this upcoming season.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

karacha wrote:What kind of comparison is that?!

A ridiculous one, but are you really surprised?

Lol dude are you kidding me?

some gold:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:I'd argue our bench is as good if not better than OKC or Miami. Think about it who does Miami or OKC have on their bench that can hurt you consistently? Miami has Ray Allen, Udonis Haslem, and Norris Cole. OKC has James Harden and Nick Collison. We have Jamison who can match Allen and Harden production wise and we also have guys like Meeks who is a very solid shooter and Hill who's a solid defender, rebounder, and hustle player. Not to mention we have the best starting unit in the league by a mile therefore we don't really need great bench production.

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:Jamison averaged 17 & 6 last season. He's been a near 20 ppg scorer. Therefore he clearly can match Harden as far as points scored

Doc Brown wrote:

Texas Lakers Fan wrote:

V1n5anity wrote:Jamison: 0-2 FG, 0-2 3pt, 2-2 ft, 2 pts, 1 reb, 0 ast, 0 stl, 0 blk

Harden: 14-25 FG, 4-10 3pt, 5-6 ft, 37 pts, 12 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk

Comparing a starter to a bench player. Great job showing your retardation again.

Dude you were the one that compared the two of them and said Jamison would match Harden.

KeepFlipFlopping at it again...

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