Antawn Jamison Discussion: Cockroach

Jamison would be a great pickup.

Put him in when Pau goes soft. Jamison isn't afraid to bang down low.

khmrP wrote:

therealdeal wrote:
He has talent and ability, but he was misused terribly in LA. He did not have consistent playing time and lost confidence as the season progressed.

did our coaching staff change?

Yes it did. We went from over a decade of Phil Jackson to Mike Brown from Cleveland.

Also, I'm not against signing Antawn Jamison if he comes for cheap, I'm just saying I think we need to shore up our backup 1/2 spots before we focus there.

therealdeal wrote:

khmrP wrote:

therealdeal wrote:
He has talent and ability, but he was misused terribly in LA. He did not have consistent playing time and lost confidence as the season progressed.

did our coaching staff change?

Yes it did. We went from over a decade of Phil Jackson to Mike Brown from Cleveland.

guess you missed the point apparently since Brown was the COACH LAST season, dont see anything changing with the misues and inconsistency to his PT anytime soon.

khmrP wrote:guess you missed the point apparently since Brown was the COACH LAST season, dont see anything changing with the misues and inconsistency to his PT anytime soon.

Ah yes I did miss the point then.

Well considering we'll have a full training camp, a smarter roster, and more practice time, I believe we'll have an opportunity to see more bench production. I don't see Kobe and Nash playing 35 minutes a night this season, they'll basically run the team. They'll be sure to ration their minutes responsibly.

Let's put it this way: with Nash on the team, someone who already has expressed his desire to lead the offense, we'll see far less Kobe-ISO and far more team basketball. Team basketball means bench play and more responsible rotations.

therealdeal wrote:

khmrP wrote:guess you missed the point apparently since Brown was the COACH LAST season, dont see anything changing with the misues and inconsistency to his PT anytime soon.

Ah yes I did miss the point then.

Well considering we'll have a full training camp, a smarter roster, and more practice time, I believe we'll have an opportunity to see more bench production. I don't see Kobe and Nash playing 35 minutes a night this season, they'll basically run the team. They'll be sure to ration their minutes responsibly.

Let's put it this way: with Nash on the team, someone who already has expressed his desire to lead the offense, we'll see far less Kobe-ISO and far more team basketball. Team basketball means bench play and more responsible rotations.

you got to much faith in Brown, I commend you for that....but Potato head had the same complaints throughout his tenure in Clev by Cavs fans even when they had 2 consective best record in the league.

also hearing rumors on radio that Dall is looking at Sess, I would be fine with S&T for West than we can commit the mini to Jamison and hope for the best with J. Hill. Just would hope we can dump Blake on somebody and give more PT to Glock and or Odom should have of them actually get a chance.

Ideally, we'd create 5 more roster spots trading Blake, McBob,, Morris, Eyenga & Artest.. Hopefully something like McBob + Morris for Dorell Wright.. Then Artest + Blake + Eyenga to someone like Portland for a TPE & a 2nd round pick.. After adding Wright, 4 spots left.. I bring back Jordan Hill, sign Jamison or Shard, sign Grant Hill, & try to get a decent combo guard defender like Delonte West or Hinrich.. Hinrich is probably more realistic for the minimum.. I have a feeling Mitch is far from done though.. If we could bring back Jordan Hill while adding both Jamison & Shard, we'd be fools not to get rid of Pau if Iggy/Granger or a guard on their level is available for Pau..

can't believe some people actually wouldn't want jamison

the guy can still ball, do it mitch

khmrP wrote:

therealdeal wrote:

khmrP wrote:guess you missed the point apparently since Brown was the COACH LAST season, dont see anything changing with the misues and inconsistency to his PT anytime soon.

Ah yes I did miss the point then.

Well considering we'll have a full training camp, a smarter roster, and more practice time, I believe we'll have an opportunity to see more bench production. I don't see Kobe and Nash playing 35 minutes a night this season, they'll basically run the team. They'll be sure to ration their minutes responsibly.

Let's put it this way: with Nash on the team, someone who already has expressed his desire to lead the offense, we'll see far less Kobe-ISO and far more team basketball. Team basketball means bench play and more responsible rotations.

you got to much faith in Brown, I commend you for that....but Potato head had the same complaints throughout his tenure in Clev by Cavs fans even when they had 2 consective best record in the league.

But he didn't have two of the smartest players ever to play the game. Now he's got Nash and Kobe, even Gasol, they're going to do a lot of coaching themselves I believe. It's not so much Brown I have faith in (I don't really), but those 2/3.

Do it Mitch! Jamison would be an excellent pickup.

I wonder if Jamison would come for the minimum to win a ring?

Reunite Antawn with Steve Nash.

I cosign this idea. Fills 3 needs, bench scoring, 3rd big, and stretch 4 to keep the doubles out of the paint. Grab he and GHill (split the mini 1.55 each, better than vet min) and the roster is set:
Bynum/(Pau)/Sacre
Pau/AJ/McBob
Ron/Hill/Eyenga
Kobe/(Hill)/*
Nashty/Blake/*
*two of Glock, Morris, DJO for last spots, maybe all three since Nash/Kobe/Hill are old
Sacre or Eyenga will be usual suit wearers, depending on depth/health;

Other than Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum, the Lakers do not have another serious post presence at the power forward and center position. Jamison's inside out game is exactly what Los Angeles needs to assist Bynum and Gasol down low.

I'm sorry but I just have to pick this part of the article apart. "Other than" Pau and Bynum?! 90% of the teams in the league don't have 1 post presence! And I like how he conveniently forgets about Kobe as a post player.

I know I'm nitpicking but I'm getting sick and tired of the "analysts" (mostly ESPN) nitpicking our own move, as if it was a bad one. Nash can't guard anyone? He won two MVP with that same defense. Who are we gonna stop on D? Who the hell is gonna stop US on offense!?

As for Jamison - yes please!

Average age of this team will be through the roof.

Deems like we are entering the denial phase with this team. Like Boston and Spurs...keep trying with a pretty old core that isn't capable of winning it all anymore. I thought our front office might be smarter than that.

Young teams don't win championships. Look at how OKC melted.

It wasn't lack of youth that beat us. It was lack of heart. Again.

Would Rather have Ryan Anderson than Jamison. Get Anderson with Dwight and we are set with the bigs.

If the age is a problem, we can start to be prudent and develop our understudies.

Nash > Not sure if Morris is the guy here.
Kobe > Goudelock? DJO? Both have promise.
MWP > Ebanks (pace Rooscooter)
Gasol > McRoberts is young enough, but we could use a young big.

Bynum is himself young, so it doesn't matter if he can be a mentor.

tigerjeterkobe wrote:Would Rather have Ryan Anderson than Jamison. Get Anderson with Dwight and we are set with the bigs.

Most people would, but Jamison is expected to be a lot cheaper than Anderson.

purp n gold wrote:

Other than Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum, the Lakers do not have another serious post presence at the power forward and center position. Jamison's inside out game is exactly what Los Angeles needs to assist Bynum and Gasol down low.

I'm sorry but I just have to pick this part of the article apart. "Other than" Pau and Bynum?! 90% of the teams in the league don't have 1 post presence! And I like how he conveniently forgets about Kobe as a post player.

He was talking about C/PF with a post presence.

V.V.V.V.V. wrote:Young teams don't win championships. Look at how OKC melted.

It wasn't lack of youth that beat us. It was lack of heart. Again.

yes, young teams don't win.

Old teams do neither.

Teams in their prime win. Look at Spurs, Celtics, Lakers, Heat for the past decade.