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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Finwë on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:07 pm

^^ Ahh, I think you are right. Damn, that's some serious issue, not to have any cartilage in your knees. Yikes.

Roy's retirement was kinda depressing. I was a fan of his game and I was hoping to see him get back to his elite level. Was never able to.

I agree completely that if it seemed like he was healthy and able to play through the season we should give him a shot. As KB24 said, the basketball IQ and leadership are alone worth it.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Weezy on Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:46 pm

This is not a low risk high reward situation, this is an all risk maybe some results situation. This guy couldn't stay on the court his last few seasons, he couldn't even play 2 games in a row. There's no way for him to know if he can make it through a full season as he hasn't been playing, at all, in over a year. The guy's knees are done, you don't waste a contract on a guy that is GUARANTEED to have knee pain during the season and almost guaranteed to miss games. You give a contract to a guy with 2 working knees that at least goes into the season healthy, not that goes in gimpy. So unless they've invented artificial knee cartilage, or artificial knees so good they allow you to play pro basketball, no thanks.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby XXIV on Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:20 pm

Weezy wrote:This is not a low risk high reward situation, this is an all risk maybe some results situation. This guy couldn't stay on the court his last few seasons, he couldn't even play 2 games in a row. There's no way for him to know if he can make it through a full season as he hasn't been playing, at all, in over a year. The guy's knees are done, you don't waste a contract on a guy that is GUARANTEED to have knee pain during the season and almost guaranteed to miss games. You give a contract to a guy with 2 working knees that at least goes into the season healthy, not that goes in gimpy. So unless they've invented artificial knee cartilage, or artificial knees so good they allow you to play pro basketball, no thanks.


If it's for the veteran minimum we don't have much if anything to lose. If he's really that bad he doesn't have to play, and he can become our last bench player.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Helljumper on Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:39 pm

We need a scorer off the bench. Healthy Brandon Roy would fill that role perfectly. Unhealthy Brandon Roy would not fill that role at all. We can't take that chance at this stage in Kobe's career. So if after we acquire a bench scorer through some other means, Roy wants to sign on for the minimum with the understanding that he'd have to fight his way into the rotation, I'd have no problem with that.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Weezy on Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:52 pm

XXIV wrote:
Weezy wrote:This is not a low risk high reward situation, this is an all risk maybe some results situation. This guy couldn't stay on the court his last few seasons, he couldn't even play 2 games in a row. There's no way for him to know if he can make it through a full season as he hasn't been playing, at all, in over a year. The guy's knees are done, you don't waste a contract on a guy that is GUARANTEED to have knee pain during the season and almost guaranteed to miss games. You give a contract to a guy with 2 working knees that at least goes into the season healthy, not that goes in gimpy. So unless they've invented artificial knee cartilage, or artificial knees so good they allow you to play pro basketball, no thanks.


If it's for the veteran minimum we don't have much if anything to lose. If he's really that bad he doesn't have to play, and he can become our last bench player.


It's still a waste of a contract and roster spot IMO. I'd rather it went to someone who will actually play or at the very least to a player we can develop.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby XXIV on Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:08 pm

Weezy wrote:
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Weezy wrote:This is not a low risk high reward situation, this is an all risk maybe some results situation. This guy couldn't stay on the court his last few seasons, he couldn't even play 2 games in a row. There's no way for him to know if he can make it through a full season as he hasn't been playing, at all, in over a year. The guy's knees are done, you don't waste a contract on a guy that is GUARANTEED to have knee pain during the season and almost guaranteed to miss games. You give a contract to a guy with 2 working knees that at least goes into the season healthy, not that goes in gimpy. So unless they've invented artificial knee cartilage, or artificial knees so good they allow you to play pro basketball, no thanks.


If it's for the veteran minimum we don't have much if anything to lose. If he's really that bad he doesn't have to play, and he can become our last bench player.


It's still a waste of a contract and roster spot IMO. I'd rather it went to someone who will actually play or at the very least to a player we can develop.


You have a valid point, and I suppose it would depend on how many of our developing players we keep or trade/release. Also, most of us who want to trade Pau expect around 2-3 players back in return. So the roster spots do become more valuable from that stand point.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Congo Cash on Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:08 am

He retired for a reason.. But hey, while we are at it, let's get Greg Oden and Yao Ming too...

No point on his leadership and high basketball IQ if he can't even suit up... Not to mention I prefer a guy who can run because we are so freaking slow...
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Ariza3 on Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:20 pm

If he can prove his knees are NBA worthy with no pain to him we have to sign him IMMEDIATELY!

He would be instant offense off the bench and would be our "James Harden" only better. The guy also has Kobe respect and that's important coming into his team unfortunately.

I think there is little risk but high reward. All depends on if his knees are good to go. He must be thinking about coming back because his knees are good right?

Brandon Roy and Kobe Bryant would be AMAZING to see. Kobe plays the 3 sometimes and they're both on the court together. WOW

Hope he's healthy and that it actually happens
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby XXIV on Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:45 pm

Ariza3 wrote:If he can prove his knees are NBA worthy with no pain to him we have to sign him IMMEDIATELY!

He would be instant offense off the bench and would be our "James Harden" only better. The guy also has Kobe respect and that's important coming into his team unfortunately.

I think there is little risk but high reward. All depends on if his knees are good to go. He must be thinking about coming back because his knees are good right?

Brandon Roy and Kobe Bryant would be AMAZING to see. Kobe plays the 3 sometimes and they're both on the court together. WOW

Hope he's healthy and that it actually happens


You have to remember this isn't the old Brandon Roy. I don't know if you watched him play last season but he's really a shell of his former self. That's not to say he couldn't contribute, but just not too the extent that he use to.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Ariza3 on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:14 pm

Scott Howard-Cooper talked to Tony Wroten, the University of Washington guard who figures to land in the high teens or 20s in the 2012 NBA Draft. Wroten talked about working out with UW/Seattle area legend Brandon Roy, who retired last December at age 27 due to knee trouble.

Six months after being forced into retirement by a knee injury, Roy, Wroten said, "dominates. I'm a good defender, I feel like, but, man, it's a little hard to stop him. He just gets to his spots. We're going to see. His knee looks great, though."
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby 24K GOLD on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:18 pm

Could a trip to Germany solve Brandon Roy's problems?
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby snackdaddy on Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:28 pm

I trust the Lakers medical staff will know if he's healthy enough to play at an NBA level. If his health checks out, gotta give him a look. If not, then move on.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby lakersin4 on Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:52 pm

Roy has a very high bbiq to go along with great footwork.. I think he will be able to put together a solid NBA career & I hope we're the team that gives him that chance
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby dj vitus on Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:55 pm

24K GOLD wrote:Could a trip to Germany solve Brandon Roy's problems?

I doubt it. I think it helps if you lost some cartilage, but after having them ALL removed, it may be a lost cause.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Center Court on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:07 am

a player in their mid 20's on a max deal don't retire unless they are at the absolute point of no return. clearly doctors gave him grave warnings about what continuing to play on that knee would do.

that said, if after the extended break he can come back and be a valuable bench player, why not sign him?
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby purp n gold on Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:34 am

I'm in the sign Roy camp. I think he has a lot to offer granted it's the right role. But if you think he's going to be the Roy of old, crashing to the rim a la James Harden, that's just not happening.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby CarolinaLakerFan on Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:13 am

Rather see us sign Delonte West and amnesty Blake.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Magic Skywalker on Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:26 am

Congo Cash wrote:He retired for a reason.. But hey, while we are at it, let's get Greg Oden and Yao Ming too...

No point on his leadership and high basketball IQ if he can't even suit up... Not to mention I prefer a guy who can run because we are so freaking slow...


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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby khmrP on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:19 pm

probably wont last long just like another recent Blazer retired/unretired Darius Miles. BTW Por must have some sort of curse, that franchise has destroyed alot of well known names with career delibetating injuries from Walton to Bowie, and now Roy/Miles/Oden.
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Ariza3 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:40 pm

Work him out and see. no harm in that. Kobe respects him too much to not want to see what he can do. "he has no flaws in his game" according to kobe. We're not asking for a harden off the bench (watching the finals thats not saying much lol) but someone who can come in and give instant offense and even play along side kobe ( at the 2 & kobe at 3) is already an upgrade for our pathetic bench.

he is still respected by players in the league and teams would have to prepare for him. hes a wild card, capable of putting up huge numbers on any night. he can shoot, pass, defend (not sure how the knees are but well see), ball handle, etc...the complete guard. if he didnt have the injuries he was one of the top SG in the league along kobe easily...potential for greatness...the guy has earned at least a workout to see what he can do. thats all im saying.

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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Doc Brown on Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:09 pm

It would be nice if we could get a player for the vet.min that vastly outplays what we are paying him. It seems like we are always the ones b****'n about how other teams get steals like that.

I think we are due. :man2:
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby dj vitus on Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:20 pm

khmrP wrote:probably wont last long just like another recent Blazer retired/unretired Darius Miles. BTW Por must have some sort of curse, that franchise has destroyed alot of well known names with career delibetating injuries from Walton to Bowie, and now Roy/Miles/Oden.

Might have to add LA to the list if his hip doesn't heal up. On another note, I heard Greg Oden is getting that German knee thing. If I were him, I'd head straight to Phoenix and live a long healthy career. :man9:
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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby jimbo327 on Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:57 am

Sign him and Oden. Don't worry. Once they don the purple and gold uniform, the Portland curse will be lifted. And their knees will be healed. :jam2: :man10:
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Warriors Have Interest In Brandon Roy

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:53 pm

Warriors GM, Bob Myers Confirms Warriors Have Interest In Brandon Roy

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Warriors general manager Bob Myers said on Friday morning that the team has interest in former Portland Trail Blazers guard Brandon Roy, who has made it clear that he will try to play in 2012-13.

On Dec. 15, 2011, the Blazers announced that they had used the amnesty clause to waive Roy, and shortly after that Roy announced that his professional basketball career was over.

But Roy, 27, has been training over the past several months with the goal of joining an NBA roster for the start of the season.

There’s a connection between Myers and Roy; Myers used to be Roy’s agent.

“It’s a possibility,” Myers answered, when asked if the Warriors would have interest in Roy. “He’s an easy phone call to make.”

The Warriors have Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson in their backcourt, but Myers has said frequently over the past months that the team needs to get more veteran experience. Assuming Roy can still play, he would fit the bill there.

“I told (Roy) when he was amnesty-ed … ‘I hope this isn’t it for you. Make sure this isn’t it. He’s said publicly he wants to come back, so I’ll start to talk to him. It depends how everything goes for us and what his expectations are and all of that. But absolutely I’ll talk to him.”

Roy, who is 6-foot-4 and capable of playing both guard spots, won the Rookie of the Year award in 2006-07 and has been an NBA all-star three seasons.

Roy had his best statistical season for the Blazers in 2008-09, when he averaged 22.6 points – on 48-percent shooting, 5.1 assists and 4.7 rebounds.


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Re: Brandon Roy considering comeback to Lakers

Postby Finwë on Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:31 pm

Minnesota is in the hunt for Roy as well:

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According to two league sources, the Wolves plan on making the three-time All-Star a two-year contract offer. The money is unknown. ... Wolves assistant coach Bill Bayno, who got to know Roy well when he worked on the Portland bench in two separate stints in the last few years, has been the driving force in Minnesota's interest. He's done enough to convince head coach Rick Adelman that the risk is worth it. The last hurdle, sources say, was to convince president of basketball operations David Kahn. That apparently recently happened.
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