You say that there is "no evidence" that he can play off ball with a true PG. Let's set aside the thought that "not signing a true PG" is evidence that he can't play with one. Let's say it's evidence that management thought he couldn't - because that's what it is.
Well, in the NBA, Kobe's only ever played with three true PGs IMO. Payton, Sessions and Nash. He gets a pass IMO with Payton because we were running the tri, and, Payton was supposed to play more of the Fisher role anyway. Sessions, I also give him a pass because it was just a handful of games. With Nash, that's the only real 'evidence' that he is not willing to relinquish the ball. So there are 2 main reasons I don't think he can play with a ball dominant PG and they are because a) he's never really been given the opportunity to effectively play off ball in his career and b) the only time he has (albeit a limited time) he took the ball right back and dominated it.
It's like asking Steve Nash who has been a facilitator his whole life, to suddenly look to score. I don't think he's programmed to do it, wants to do it, or would be as good at it. Was he willing to try? Sure he was. But I don't think Nash liked it very much. Do you think he enjoyed his role overall this year? I don't.
trodgers wrote:The closest thing he's had to a true PG are - Olympic play, All-Star Games, and early this season. It's fair to say that in all cases he modified his game. Either by taking the challenge defensively or working off ball. So, I think there's good evidence that he would be willing to adjust his game.
Well, I'm not sure I would use those as examples. A lot of things happen there, that wouldn't carry over. For instance, Kobe played 20-something minutes and scored 9 pts in the ASG this year. Think he'd be willing to adjust to that? Me neither.
Do I think he can/will do it in spurts? Sure.
trodgers wrote:Now, you make the further claim that he would rather not play than play under those circumstances. He was in favor of bringing on Jason Kidd and CP3. Good evidence that he'd rather play with those guys than not at all. What's very clear is that there is no evidence at all that he would rather not play at all than play with a true PG. What MIGHT be true is that he would rather not play at all than suck on a losing team.
What I said was based on Kobe's comment about not wanting to play in this league averaging 18-19 points per game. He wants to be a top scorer. To be a top scorer you have to be ball dominant. If he relinquishes the ball to a TRUE point guard, he's going to drop in to that 18-19 PPG territory which he said he'd rather retire than be in.
That he was in favor of bringing in Jason Kidd and CP3 is only evidence that he'd like to play with those guys. It's not evidence that he'd relinquish the ball to or changing the pecking order for them.
You're right, there isn't evidence that he would rather not play at all than play with a true PG but he did say he would rather not stick around to average 19 PPG. So how do you imagine it would be possible, for him to relinquish the ball to a true PG who will look to create the best possible scoring option on nearly each and every play, and still get his 27-ish PPG? (Especially when a significant chunk of those 27 PPG scored each game come out of ISO). Any team with a TRUE PG will see greater distribution of the scoring across a greater number of players and so it would be difficult for anyone to average 27 PPG or more with a TRUE PG.