Lets Go Lakers wrote: Center Court wrote:
therealdeal wrote:There is nothing about Carmelo's game that relies on athleticism. He uses his body to create space to score. He uses his strength to fight for rebounds. He doesn't fly above the rim and he doesn't use speed to find room to score.
This x 100
My question for people who are so vehemently opposed to Melo is what does Love do that makes him such a better target than Carmelo?
He's younger by a few years which is only thing that I can say makes him the far more attractive player. Otherwise I have not really seen anything that wows me into thinking Love is the superior player now or even ever than Melo.
Guess yay or nay depends on your belief in Kobe's healthy return and your views on a short term vs long term rebuild.
Melo is 30. He has maybe 2-3 prime years left. And after that, it's down hill. Love is just 26, entering his prime.
But beyond the age, I view Love as an amazing second fiddle superstar. Someone who can be effective within the flow of the offense. A complimentary wing player would be a great combo with him. I mean anyone who can get 26/13 is pretty dam good. He's got unlimited range and is a rebounding monster. His post up game is improving. I just like the idea of him pairing up with a great wing player to form that superstar duo.
That is much better than having who ball dominant guys in Kobe and Melo fighting for possessions on iso situations.
Really, I hate watching Melo play. He is the epitome of how NOT to play basketball. Just give him the ball and get out of the way. I would hate to play with a guy like that.
And that is the answers I assumed I was going to hear... I'm going to play devli's advocate for a bit.
Love is a PF and like most other bigs, is generally in good rebounding position. If he was averaging below 10RPG I'd say there is a major problem. Melo, as a SF, is averaging 9 on a team where he is spending every oz of energy trying to score to keep them in the game.
The whole myth that Melo can't play team ball IMO is a bit misguided. He simply has not had a team (since Denver) that even resembles an intelligent/team oriented roster. He's no Magic out there but I think when he has people around him that flourish in a team concept, he usually finds his stride. Coaching has a lot to do with this. Right now Woodson's offense is constant ISO from different spots. In some regard Melo really is playing the game his coach has laid out for him.
Now the fit with Love being an amazing second fiddle. I agree. But it'd have to be next a wing guy who can flat out dominate the game on the ball to allow Love to just play free and compliment his game. Guys like a prime Kobe, LeBron, CP3, KD. With the exclusion KD, Melo would look insanely good next to those guys also.
All in all, Love has yet to lead his team to the playoffs. Even this season when they have a competent roster and health has not been a major factor, they still can't win too many games. Yet Dallas and Phx are both in the mix.
Melo is not the perfect guy to carry the torch Kobe is going to leave, but I don't think Love is either. If we want to hold out for Love/Durant, then I'm all game but I don't think Carmelo is an easy no... Especially if we all still believe in Kobe as a championship level superstar.
Given we don't have a pick next year unless it's in the top 5, we really are caught in no man's land-- so to speak. Either we go all in now and see what Kobe can give us or we wait and accept waiting for Love means maybe one shot for Kobe to get us # 17.
I don't know anymore. Just get me a real coach and draft well this off season and let that dictate what we do...