Carmelo Anthony Free Agency Watch

Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

1) Yah
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3) Not only no but hell no
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby TIME on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:44 am

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TIME wrote:You seconded a declaration that the Lakers should never again sign any superstar at the age 30. That has nothing to do with Melo directly. My question was aimed at pointing out the absurdity of such an extreme stance.


this is THE MELO thread isn't it? Everything commented here is in relations to Anthony, that should be a given.


It's not a given when I specifically asked you about a list of names that did not include Melo. Noobiew's point which you chose to 2nd was that it is always wrong to sign a 30 year old FA. It's not a very well thought out stance.

If you don't like Melo and don't want him on the Lakers that's fine, but it has nothing to do with age 30. But since you want to make the point about Melo, I'll go along. Melo's game will probably age better than the more athletic players in the league. I think his game will age better than DWade or LeBron for instance.

But, I completely get the concerns that most here have about Melo: volume shooter, ball stopper, no D, sulker, etc. are all valid considerations before signing any player to a max deal. It would be a desperation move IMO as a final attempt to surround Kobe with talent for one final run. There is a chance it could work, but it could also fail miserably.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby khmrP on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:48 am

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khmrP wrote:
TIME wrote:You seconded a declaration that the Lakers should never again sign any superstar at the age 30. That has nothing to do with Melo directly. My question was aimed at pointing out the absurdity of such an extreme stance.


this is THE MELO thread isn't it? Everything commented here is in relations to Anthony, that should be a given.


It's not a given when I specifically asked you about a list of names that did not include Melo. Noobiew's point which you chose to 2nd was that it is always wrong to sign a 30 year old FA. It's not a very well thought out stance.

If you don't like Melo and don't want him on the Lakers that's fine, but it has nothing to do with age 30. But since you want to make the point about Melo, I'll go along. Melo's game will probably age better than the more athletic players in the league. I think his game will age better than DWade or LeBron for instance.

But, I completely get the concerns that most here have about Melo: volume shooter, ball stopper, no D, sulker, etc. are all valid considerations before signing any player to a max deal. It would be a desperation move IMO as a final attempt to surround Kobe with talent for one final run. There is a chance it could work, but it could also fail miserably.


I see the chances of the latter happening more than the former....with no more money to sign a rim protector or w/o Embiid our defensive woes would still be there with or without Pringles at the Helm.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby TIME on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:54 am

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khmrP wrote:
TIME wrote:You seconded a declaration that the Lakers should never again sign any superstar at the age 30. That has nothing to do with Melo directly. My question was aimed at pointing out the absurdity of such an extreme stance.


this is THE MELO thread isn't it? Everything commented here is in relations to Anthony, that should be a given.


It's not a given when I specifically asked you about a list of names that did not include Melo. Noobiew's point which you chose to 2nd was that it is always wrong to sign a 30 year old FA. It's not a very well thought out stance.

If you don't like Melo and don't want him on the Lakers that's fine, but it has nothing to do with age 30. But since you want to make the point about Melo, I'll go along. Melo's game will probably age better than the more athletic players in the league. I think his game will age better than DWade or LeBron for instance.

But, I completely get the concerns that most here have about Melo: volume shooter, ball stopper, no D, sulker, etc. are all valid considerations before signing any player to a max deal. It would be a desperation move IMO as a final attempt to surround Kobe with talent for one final run. There is a chance it could work, but it could also fail miserably.


I see the chances of the latter happening more than the former....with no more money to sign a rim protector or w/o Embiid our defensive woes would still be there with or without Pringles at the Helm.


First, I absolutely want Pringles gone like the second the season ends. Second, I could not agree more that if we can find a legit rim protector we do so as a top priority. Embiid would be awesome, but I think you agree that is unlikely. Among FAs who did you have in mind? Monroe is probably available for max but personally I think Melo is a better purchase for that money than Monroe. Who else is there who can protect the rim and is actually available this off season?
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby khmrP on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:59 am

^^^Sanders but not my perefence to give up assests for him, I'd rather have Buck give us assets due to his poor play, bad attidude, and long term contract. If we got top 5 pick I'd say the possibilities are limitless, trade down for more picks, trade for a disgruntled star player, etc. But anything is better than having 20+mill tied up in 1 guy who is known as those traits you listed. We can argue all day about his lack of talented teammates or whatevers, bad coaching, etc. but his team is in no worse of shape then the likes of Wiz, Tor, Atl and every other Eastern conf. team that doesn't include Indy/Mia. NYK should NOT have the record they do now especially in the East.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Chillbongo on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm

TIME wrote:First, I absolutely want Pringles gone like the second the season ends. Second, I could not agree more that if we can find a legit rim protector we do so as a top priority. Embiid would be awesome, but I think you agree that is unlikely. Among FAs who did you have in mind? Monroe is probably available for max but personally I think Melo is a better purchase for that money than Monroe. Who else is there who can protect the rim and is actually available this off season?


I believe Monroe's max is a handful millions cheaper. Melo has been in the league since 2003 so the amount HE can earn for the max is greater than the amount Monroe can. I think Monroe's max is around $15M.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:53 pm

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noobiew wrote:Great news ! no more signing superstars at the age of 30 for the Lakers


2nd that!


So if you had the opportunity to sign MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or KD at age 30 you would pass?


Well… this is a tough question to answer. If I were guaranteed the 30+ balance of those guys careers I'd do it but under the new CBA without that guarantee a misstep in FA can kill you for 5 years now.

Melo isn't on the same level as those 4 so the point seems moot if you are suggesting that signing Melo at 30 is similar to signing one of those guys.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:58 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
TIME wrote:First, I absolutely want Pringles gone like the second the season ends. Second, I could not agree more that if we can find a legit rim protector we do so as a top priority. Embiid would be awesome, but I think you agree that is unlikely. Among FAs who did you have in mind? Monroe is probably available for max but personally I think Melo is a better purchase for that money than Monroe. Who else is there who can protect the rim and is actually available this off season?


I believe Monroe's max is a handful millions cheaper. Melo has been in the league since 2003 so the amount HE can earn for the max is greater than the amount Monroe can. I think Monroe's max is around $15M.


^ Yep.

Monroe's starting salary I believe would be about 13.7 or so.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby TIME on Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:59 pm

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khmrP wrote:
noobiew wrote:Great news ! no more signing superstars at the age of 30 for the Lakers


2nd that!


So if you had the opportunity to sign MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or KD at age 30 you would pass?


Well… this is a tough question to answer. If I were guaranteed the 30+ balance of those guys careers I'd do it but under the new CBA without that guarantee a misstep in FA can kill you for 5 years now.

Melo isn't on the same level as those 4 so the point seems moot if you are suggesting that signing Melo at 30 is similar to signing one of those guys.


No, as I explained above, I was addressing the assertion that the Lakers should never again even consider signing a 30 year old FA. As one example, if KD becomes available at age 30 and we have cap room I'm going to be leading the sign him charge.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:18 pm

TIME wrote:
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TIME wrote:
khmrP wrote:
noobiew wrote:Great news ! no more signing superstars at the age of 30 for the Lakers


2nd that!


So if you had the opportunity to sign MJ, Kobe, Shaq, or KD at age 30 you would pass?


Well… this is a tough question to answer. If I were guaranteed the 30+ balance of those guys careers I'd do it but under the new CBA without that guarantee a misstep in FA can kill you for 5 years now.

Melo isn't on the same level as those 4 so the point seems moot if you are suggesting that signing Melo at 30 is similar to signing one of those guys.


No, as I explained above, I was addressing the assertion that the Lakers should never again even consider signing a 30 year old FA. As one example, if KD becomes available at age 30 and we have cap room I'm going to be leading the sign him charge.


Agreed….. but Durant at 30 doesn't come without some risks….. but his size and ability more than make up for that. He doesn't put himself in positions to get injured as much as some of the other top level players.

Not sure OKC will ever let him go however. That town would be in open revolt…..
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby HighlyFavored on Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:27 pm

This is interesting.
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Postby HighlyFavored on Mon Jan 27, 2014 5:03 pm

Welp.

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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby noobiew on Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:09 pm

Don't get me wrong I believe Melo is a good player and I actually want the Lakers to sign him next season, but only if he willing to take a discount to sign somewhere around 16-17 million per year, I just don't want Melo for a super max contract.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:06 pm

HighlyFavored wrote:Welp.

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Carmelo Anthony's wife, La La, says Melo will stay in New York. » http://es.pn/L4fn6T

well there we have it. A wife of a player who has said nothing of his attentions has to be right!
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:11 pm

puffyusaf#2 wrote:
HighlyFavored wrote:Welp.

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Carmelo Anthony's wife, La La, says Melo will stay in New York. » http://es.pn/L4fn6T

well there we have it. A wife of a player who has said nothing of his attentions has to be right!


NY can offer him an additional year and thus more money.....which I've always thought he's more about anyway. I still think he goes the distance however and we won't do anything until he does.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby puffyusaf#2 on Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:17 pm

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HighlyFavored wrote:Welp.

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Carmelo Anthony's wife, La La, says Melo will stay in New York. » http://es.pn/L4fn6T

well there we have it. A wife of a player who has said nothing of his attentions has to be right!


NY can offer him an additional year and thus more money.....which I've always thought he's more about anyway. I still think he goes the distance however and we won't do anything until he does.

I don't know I think he wants to win or at least have a real shot at a Championship. I can see him staying in NY but also equally moving to Chicago or trying his hand in LA.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby khmrP on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:25 pm

that article couldn't be more true...he is way better off in NY, more money, longer year and less expectations. Knick fans and media would be happy with a playoff birth a series win here and there even if they never win a chip, they'll still worship him as god over there.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby charvin on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:47 pm

Rooscooter wrote:Agreed….. but Durant at 30 doesn't come without some risks….. but his size and ability more than make up for that. He doesn't put himself in positions to get injured as much as some of the other top level players.

Not sure OKC will ever let him go however. That town would be in open revolt…..


In 2016, I don't think it will be a matter of if OKC will let him go. I personally think it's if Durant will want to stay. OKC will always run their business like a small city would (because of their GM's preference) - good scouting and drafting, and avoid the luxury tax like the plague. By the end of 2016 season (or whenever his contract is up), he will have given OKC plenty of time (~9-10 years) to have given him a roster that may or may not be worthy of winning a title.

At that point, he'll have a decision to make. Something along the lines of 'Do I stay here knowing that (assuming he hasn't won one by then) we aren't going to win one or do I leave for a team where I feel has a better chance?'
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Center Court on Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:50 pm

charvin wrote:
Rooscooter wrote:Agreed….. but Durant at 30 doesn't come without some risks….. but his size and ability more than make up for that. He doesn't put himself in positions to get injured as much as some of the other top level players.

Not sure OKC will ever let him go however. That town would be in open revolt…..


In 2016, I don't think it will be a matter of if OKC will let him go. I personally think it's if Durant will want to stay. OKC will always run their business like a small city would (because of their GM's preference) - good scouting and drafting, and avoid the luxury tax like the plague. By the end of 2016 season (or whenever his contract is up), he will have given OKC plenty of time (~9-10 years) to have given him a roster that may or may not be worthy of winning a title.

At that point, he'll have a decision to make. Something along the lines of 'Do I stay here knowing that (assuming he hasn't won one by then) we aren't going to win one or do I leave for a team where I feel has a better chance?'


And if he does opt to move else where, I see very few places that could do what LA could for him.. especially if Love + a top lotto picks this year are waiting for him.
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La La 'Definitely Thinks' Melo Will Re-Sign With Knicks

Postby Kobe8Fan on Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:02 am

La La 'Definitely Thinks' Melo Will Re-Sign With Knicks

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La La Anthony "definitely" thinks her husband, free-agent-to-be Carmelo Anthony, will re-sign with the New York Knicks this summer.

"I definitely think he will stay," La La Anthony said in an interview with Bravo TV's "Watch What Happens Live." "I know that he wants to stay, and I support him wherever he wants to go.

"Listen, I used to live in Denver with him. If I can live in Denver, I can live anywhere. I just want him to be happy."

Carmelo Anthony says he will test free agency this summer. He is under contract through 2014-15 but can opt out after this season.

Under the collective bargaining agreement, the Knicks can offer him a maximum contract of $129 million over five years. Other suitors can offer Anthony a maximum of $96 million over four years.

La La Anthony playfully mocked those who speculate that she will have a heavy influence on her husband's decision.

"I get blamed for everything. No matter what happens, it's my fault," she said. "[There are] all these talks if he's staying in New York or not, [and] I'm somehow the mastermind behind if he stays or not."

The Knicks (17-27) have performed well below expectations this season. That has led some to speculate that Carmelo Anthony will take less money and sign elsewhere this summer.

One potential destination is Los Angeles. The Lakers are among several teams, including the Chicago Bulls and Dallas Mavericks, that may have the requisite salary-cap space this summer to sign Anthony.

Kobe Bryant, a friend of Anthony's, said Sunday that he will not be actively recruiting the Knicks forward to join the Lakers.

"Well, everybody wants to play in Los Angeles," Bryant said when asked about Anthony's potential interest in joining the Lakers. "I mean, New York is a beautiful place, don't get me wrong, but it is colder than s--- out here. You know, palm trees and beaches obviously are a little more appealing.

"All jokes aside, I think that players, when that time comes, will have to make the best decision for them and their families. I try not to think about it too much. If he wants to call me for advice later as a friend, I will be more than happy to give it to him."

Bryant pointed out that one way for Anthony to be viewed as more than just a scorer is to win a title.

"The only way to do that is win," Bryant said. "That's it. I won five championships, and there's some of you guys [who] still say that. You just got to take it and roll with it. The important thing is winning a championship. That's the only way to shake it. That's the only way Michael [Jordan] shook it. That's the only way any top scorer will be able to shake it."

Anthony, who is in his 11th season, said Monday that his sole motivation is to win an NBA title.

"That's the only thing I care about. Anything else is irrelevant to me when it comes to basketball," he said. "Championship is the only thing that's on my mind, is the only thing I want to accomplish, I want to achieve, and I'm going to do what I got to do to get that. That's my motivating factor. Nothing else even motivates me anymore, just that."


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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby HighlyFavored on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:09 am

welp. I doubt Melo comes to the Lakers. I can see Dwight talking trash about Kobe and the Lakers telling him not to come here if he wants to win.

Houston Rockets All-Star center Dwight Howard knows a thing or two about NBA free agency, and he’s reportedly using that knowledge to counsel New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony.

In an interview with USA Today's Sam Amick, D12 said he has discussed free agency with 'Melo on "several occasions" and maintains that Anthony's primary focus is on winning.


He has been in the league for a long time. He hasn't made it to the Finals and at this point in his career he wants to win. You can see it every night when he plays. I know he has to take a lot of shots and all that stuff, but he just wants to win.

I can't say (what he'll do). That's on him. He's got to decide. (But) he can't be what everybody else wants. In this situation, you've got to take your heart out of it…So I'd just say for him, take his heart out of it and think with his head and think about business.

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Postby Weezy on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:24 am

1. Why would anyone take advice on winning from Dwight Howard? What does he know about winning?

2. Melo knows Kobe and his game, they played together for team USA and on all star teams. They also talk as friends, if Melo considers coming here he knows what it's like to play with Kobe already so that thought process shouldn't take long.
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Postby S.R.05 on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:50 am

HighlyFavored wrote:welp. I doubt Melo comes to the Lakers. I can see Dwight talking trash about Kobe and the Lakers telling him not to come here if he wants to win.

Houston Rockets All-Star center Dwight Howard knows a thing or two about NBA free agency, and he’s reportedly using that knowledge to counsel New York Knicks star Carmelo Anthony.

In an interview with USA Today's Sam Amick, D12 said he has discussed free agency with 'Melo on "several occasions" and maintains that Anthony's primary focus is on winning.


He has been in the league for a long time. He hasn't made it to the Finals and at this point in his career he wants to win. You can see it every night when he plays. I know he has to take a lot of shots and all that stuff, but he just wants to win.

I can't say (what he'll do). That's on him. He's got to decide. (But) he can't be what everybody else wants. In this situation, you've got to take your heart out of it…So I'd just say for him, take his heart out of it and think with his head and think about business.

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Postby HighlyFavored on Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:13 am

^ Obviously Carmelo cares what Dwight thinks since he discussed his free agency with him on "several occasions"...
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: prefers Bulls over Lakers - Woj (6)

Postby Weezy on Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:59 am

Just because Howard and Melo are friends and talk and Dwight talks free agency doesn't mean that Melo ultimately cares what Dwight thinks. Dwight just went through free agency, if I'm right, Melo never has yet, he was a rookie with the Nuggets, extended with them, and was traded to the Knicks after extending again. So all Dwight probably told him was his experiences as a first time free agent as well, maybe how teams made pitches for him, stuff like that. Nobody is going to go anywhere or not go anywhere based on what Dwight Howard says, especially about Kobe, sorry, I'm just not buying that.
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Postby khmrP on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:00 am

Melo should listen very carefully to everything Howard has to say. Then do the exact opposite :man10: so hopefully Melo will stay in NY, he is deserving of that franchise and vice versa.
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