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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby revgen on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:57 pm

The kid has reading comprehension issues. The article suggested a trade. The article didn't say that a trade was offered.

Here's the passage from the Sheridan Hoops article.

Let’s start with the Lakers, who do not have an abundance of what the Knicks would be seeking – first-round draft picks. Los Angeles owes its 2015 pick to Phoenix and its 2017 pick to Orlando, meaning it cannot trade a first-round pick of its own until 2019. Their second-round picks in 2014 and 2015 have already been traded, too.

And in case you haven’t noticed, they are No. 1 in the Tankapalooza department after losing successive games to the Jazz, Sixers and Bucks. That sentence bears repeating: They just lost to the Jazz, Sixers and Bucks!

So what could Jim Buss and Mitch Kupchak do to bring Anthony aboard this season, enabling them to offer ‘Melo that fifth year and $30 million?

Pau Gasol, Nick Young and Chris Kaman to the Knicks for Anthony, J.R. Smith and Cole Aldrich.

This would be like taking pennies back on the dollar, which is why the Knicks would probably look elsewhere — like down the hallway to the Clippers — for a more palatable deal. Both Gasol and Young are on expiring contracts, but Gasol is a keeper if he signs at a reasonable number in July. He has said that he won’t take a pay cut, but that just ain’t happening. The dropoff in his game has been significant this season, and brother Marc is now the better player.

Nick YoungThe no-brainer keeper in this trade would be Young, who few realize is the most efficient offensive player in the entire NBA based on advanced metrics. Check out this column from Jacob Eisenberg which explains the dynamic around Young, who still carries the label of a chucker rather than a scorer.

Young also will be an unrestricted free agent this summer and is due a hefty pay raise. But that is where the Knicks can come at him hard, using some of the money they would save by dumping Smith in this deal. Aldrich and Kaman would be included to match up the salaries.

You cannot see how this deal looks in the ESPN Trade Machine because Smith cannot be traded until Jan. 15. But the Knicks would be sending out approximately $28.6 million in salary and would be taking back $27.5 million. And once Amar’e Stoudemire comes off their cap after next season, they will be positioned for another rebuild. Only Raymond Felton ($3.89 million player option) would be on the cap for the 2015-16 season. And just a guess, but the rebuilding might start with Kevin Love and their lottery pick in 2015 because, yes, they would be a lottery team.


http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/01/02/sheridan-what-could-the-knicks-get-for-carmelo-anthony/
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:58 pm

There's the article I read. And yes that kid needs to learn how to read.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby kenzo on Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:59 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Melo for Pau is a much bigger upgrade than Swaggy for Smith is a downgrade.. I'd do it.. We aren't going to trade Pau for a superstar without taking some crap back with it. If Swaggy keeps scoring like he has, we're running a huge risk of losing him anyway.. & if he likes it here that much, maybe he comes back in the summer. Getting Melo now instead of signing him in the summer allows us to keep the bird rights for Hill/Wes/Farmar/X & gives us a much better shot at retaining them. Pull the trigger Mitch.

We can get Melo in the summer (if we want to). This season is lost anyways so lets STAY AWAY from JR :man2:
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:03 pm

LakersN4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Melo for Pau is a much bigger upgrade than Swaggy for Smith is a downgrade.. I'd do it.. We aren't going to trade Pau for a superstar without taking some crap back with it. If Swaggy keeps scoring like he has, we're running a huge risk of losing him anyway.. & if he likes it here that much, maybe he comes back in the summer.

After we deal him away when he gave us a pay cut? :man10: I doubt it.

I just don't see why the Lakers try to acquire Carmelo right now. And if we do, why do we need to take back anything crappy for him? We hold all the cards. Let Carmelo hit free agency and we can go after him then... I don't know. Looks like a bad trade to me.

Who says it has to be a paycut? We'd have the full MLE to use.

No he took a pay cut for the contract he's on now. He took less money to play in LA.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Slurpee22 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:04 pm

I'd only trade Young if it got us a young player with superstar potential....
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby LakersN4 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:38 pm

therealdeal wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:
LakersN4 wrote:Melo for Pau is a much bigger upgrade than Swaggy for Smith is a downgrade.. I'd do it.. We aren't going to trade Pau for a superstar without taking some crap back with it. If Swaggy keeps scoring like he has, we're running a huge risk of losing him anyway.. & if he likes it here that much, maybe he comes back in the summer.

After we deal him away when he gave us a pay cut? :man10: I doubt it.

I just don't see why the Lakers try to acquire Carmelo right now. And if we do, why do we need to take back anything crappy for him? We hold all the cards. Let Carmelo hit free agency and we can go after him then... I don't know. Looks like a bad trade to me.

Who says it has to be a paycut? We'd have the full MLE to use.

No he took a pay cut for the contract he's on now. He took less money to play in LA.

Oh I misunderstood what you wrote.. Yes we'd be doing Young dirty after he took a paycut to play here.. Any chances of him coming back in the summer would rely on coming to an understanding that the best way to get the team back to contending is get a star now & then use the MLE to pay Nick.. Extreme longshot but you have to put the star players first to contend.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Kit on Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:50 pm

Would be so cruel if we traded Nick Young who took less money to play for us and has been the best player on the team...
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby lakerfan2 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:10 pm

Pau/Henry for Melo.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby unpossibl1 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:15 pm

The kid who reported it is the one who was outside Dwight's hotel during the Dwightmare sales pitches and tends to have solid info. I don't see the Knicks doing this deal nor do I think it's a direction the Lakers should go, but it is interesting to hear that they are considering deals that would push them back up in the win column.

Personally, I think that's the complete opposite of what they should do. The worst possible outcome of this season standings-wise is the Lakers finishing in 8th place and barely making the playoffs. All that will do is ensure they don't get a top pick, and I think it's close to what would happen if they traded for Melo. I think they need to get whatever future assets they can for Pau, Blake, and maybe even Jordan Hill, drop below the luxury tax line to avoid the repeater tax, and then rebuild over the summer with free agency and a high draft pick. It seems like the clear direction to go in to me. If they really want Melo just sign him over the summer, don't take on JR Smith and then risk Melo bolting in the offseason.
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Knicks & Clippers Talking Blake Griffin For Carmelo Anthony?

Postby Kobe8Fan on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:04 pm

Knicks & Clippers Talking Blake Griffin For Carmelo Anthony?

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By Chris Broussard | ESPN The Magazine

With the looming possibility of Carmelo Anthony departing New York as a free agent this summer, New York Knicks officials have discussed proposing a trade for the Los Angeles Clippers' Blake Griffin, according to league sources.

Sources say Clippers management has also had internal discussions about such a deal but that the clubs have not yet spoken to one another about a potential trade.

As of now, neither team is certain of whether it would make an Anthony-for-Griffin trade, the sources said.

The Clippers appear to be the more apprehensive of the two teams because Griffin is having a terrific year, especially of late. The 24-year-old power forward has averaged 26 points and nearly 11 rebounds over his last 10 games.

One source close to the situation said the Clippers' latest internal discussion ended in favor of keeping Griffin. New York's top priority appears to be resigning Anthony to a long-term deal this offseason. But with the Knicks struggling badly and Anthony refusing to give assurances that he will return, the Knicks understand they must at least consider other options.

The Clippers are on the Knicks' radar because it is an open secret throughout the league that Anthony and the Clippers star point guard, Chris Paul, have wanted to play together since 2010. That sentiment among the two players has not changed, according to sources.

If the Knicks decide to explore a trade for Anthony, he will have plenty of say as to where he goes because of his impending free agency. No club will offer anything of value for him without knowing he will re-sign with it this summer.

With Paul having recently signed a five-year, $107 million deal with the Clippers, Anthony, who has a home in Los Angeles, would almost certainly re-sign with the Clippers.


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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:10 pm

No chance that happens.

Griffin is their money cow and they're going to milk him until his knees shatter.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Barnstable on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:12 pm

Makes 0 sense for the Clips

How would that trade improve them again? Is Melo going to run point while Paul is out?
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Chillbongo on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:14 pm

therealdeal wrote:No chance that happens.

Griffin is their money cow and they're going to milk him until his knees shatter.

By the way Real, don't you predict the annual CP3 injury train?

Ding ding ding.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Doc Brown on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:15 pm

Why the Knicks do it - It ensures them that they will not win a title in the next 5 years
Why the Clips do it - It ensures them that they will not win a title in the next 5 years
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:20 pm

Chillbongo wrote:
therealdeal wrote:No chance that happens.

Griffin is their money cow and they're going to milk him until his knees shatter.

By the way Real, don't you predict the annual CP3 injury train?

Ding ding ding.

I'm definitely on the Chris Paul injury train, but I'm not sure I called this one. I called Rose and Westbrook. Paul is good for an injury like this most years.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Slurpee22 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:31 pm

therealdeal wrote:No chance that happens.

Griffin is their money cow and they're going to milk him until his knees shatter.


Wasn't that same assessment also said about LeBron leaving Cleveland?
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby therealdeal on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:41 pm

Slurpee22 wrote:
therealdeal wrote:No chance that happens.

Griffin is their money cow and they're going to milk him until his knees shatter.


Wasn't that same assessment also said about LeBron leaving Cleveland?

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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:32 am

I couldn't give a flying [Swearing is not permitted at Clublakers. You must edit this post prior to submitting.] about Melo destination as long as it is not the Lakers ...

As for this trade rumor ... I stopped reading at " by Chris Broussard"

2012 : Deron Williams Twitter : " I will stay with the Brooklyn Nets "

5 minutes later :

Broussard " Sources around the league are telling me D-Will will stay with the Nets"
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Postby wcsoldier81 on Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:37 am

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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby GinoDB on Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:11 am

guys with no sources are laughing at other guys with no sources, us fans get nothing
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby trodgers on Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:09 am

BTW, that CP3 injury looked like it happened on his flop - when he threw himself into the ground AFTER BEING BUMPED BY DE ANDRE JORDAN. I don't wish people to be harmed, but he's a flopper and caused this injury himself.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: May Join Lakers to Play with Kob

Postby Rooscooter on Sat Jan 04, 2014 9:41 am

trodgers wrote:BTW, that CP3 injury looked like it happened on his flop - when he threw himself into the ground AFTER BEING BUMPED BY DE ANDRE JORDAN. I don't wish people to be harmed, but he's a flopper and caused this injury himself.



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