Carmelo Anthony Free Agency Watch

Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

1) Yah
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2) Nay
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3) Not only no but hell no
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Carmelo Anthony Free Agency Watch

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:32 am

Do you want him to sign with the Lakers as a FA?
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:05 am

I won't vote until there is a "Hell No" selection…….
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:11 am

If this was Melo at 24 or something, I would say yes. But Melo is turning 30 in May. So he has maybe 2-3 prime years left. And given the fact that he's a one trick pony and ball stopper, to me, it's a hell no. The guy is one of the best scorers of this era but he's not a true great. Great players make their teammates better. Melo is a ball stopper who hurts the team at times. Great scorer in the mold of D. Wilkins but not a true great.

I hope we don't get this guy. We would have no chance at a ring with him as the alpha dog.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby juninho on Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:14 am

i vote no so fast i would rather vote hell no.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby abeer3 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:16 am

how easy do people think it is to get their hands on a "true great"? the lakers have been uncommonly lucky in that regard, and i think the new cba was deliberately designed to end that. anthony may be the best player the lakers have a shot at in the next few years. now, if you'd rather try to build a non-star team, i can understand that desire. but wanting a better star...you're probably going to be disappointed for a while.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby Center Court on Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:32 am

abeer3 wrote:how easy do people think it is to get their hands on a "true great"? the lakers have been uncommonly lucky in that regard, and i think the new cba was deliberately designed to end that. anthony may be the best player the lakers have a shot at in the next few years. now, if you'd rather try to build a non-star team, i can understand that desire. but wanting a better star...you're probably going to be disappointed for a while.


You don't consider Kevin Love one of those guys? How about KD? How about Rondo and LMA? - (tier below)

Becuase we gave Kobe that ridiculous contract, we only have one max to give over the next 2 years until Kobe retires.

So that decision invalidadtes your point even more in the sense that now you have to choose the one guy you are willing to MAX. Barring some instance where guys are willing to make $14 while Kobe makes $24.5MM, I'm not sure you should just thow it at Melo unless you're sure that he can be a championship level player.

All that said, I'm okay if that's the direction we go. we gain instant credibility and IF we can get a top lotto prospect, we may end up back into contention next year.

In the end, I think the draft is a BIG determinant of what we do. If we end up with a Parker or Wiggins, maybe we hold off for Love. If we end up with Smart/Embiid/Exum/Gorodon/Vonleh maybe we sign Melo.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby lukewaltonsdad on Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:57 am

I was on board with this, but now I'm not...sudden change of heart. We need to build a more balanced roster...to many holes on this team right no
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Postby lotus on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:28 am

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Postby TIME on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:31 am

I voted yes. It's the most direct route I see that ends with dumping D'Antoni.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:37 am

This season, had we stayed near .500 with Kobe healthy, I would've said make a trade now to get him this season and see what we could do.

Now with the injuries we have, and the way we're headed, not this season. It's unintentional tanking that will hopefully land us a lottery pick and a future.

If Melo wants to come here next year, he can either 1. take a pay cut or 2. get a 2 year (3 with ETO) deal.
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Postby therealdeal on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:40 am

lakerfan2 wrote:This season, had we stayed near .500 with Kobe healthy, I would've said make a trade now to get him this season and see what we could do.

Now with the injuries we have, and the way we're headed, not this season. It's unintentional tanking that will hopefully land us a lottery pick and a future.

If Melo wants to come here next year, he can either 1. take a pay cut or 2. get a 2 year (3 with ETO) deal.

This is pretty much my position as well. If we had a healthy Kobe and we were making a run at say the 7th or 8th seed and it looked like MAYBE we were a great piece away from breaking into the 2nd and 3rd rounds...

I'd be all for Anthony. Just because he's not a LeBron or a Kobe doesn't mean he can't be a Paul Pierce or a Billups. There's more than one way to win a Championship.

Unfortunately I think we're so far from there now that we need to look more into a full rebuild than a retool around Kobe. We need to look for younger options so that we have a chance to sign Love in 2015.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby Herm24 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:52 am

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Postby karacha on Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:56 am

At this moment, no. Next year, if the price is right, sure. But he'll probably want the max. In which case, we should probably just rebuild completely. Get a quality young player or a 1st for Pau, re-sign our guys who are worth keeping, sign a quailty non-max player (a legit second option) -- a PG or a PF/C. Pick well in the upcoming draft with our pick. Sign a big name in the summer of 2015. Then we're ready to contend again.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby LOSLAKERS on Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:00 pm

I say yes. Just give it a shot. If the Lakers really wanted Melo and not just the other way around then signing him would pretty much guarantee a new coach.
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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:20 pm

abeer3 wrote:how easy do people think it is to get their hands on a "true great"? the lakers have been uncommonly lucky in that regard, and i think the new cba was deliberately designed to end that. anthony may be the best player the lakers have a shot at in the next few years. now, if you'd rather try to build a non-star team, i can understand that desire. but wanting a better star...you're probably going to be disappointed for a while.


There is no luck on why we have been getting superstars. We are the Lakers. Almost every star wants to come here and make their mark. Only the presence of Kobe in the last 18 years have made it less enticing for other superstars to come here because Kobe is such an alpha dog and won't relinquish anything. But he's on his way out and the door is wide open for a new superstar to be "the man" in Tinseltown.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby XXIV on Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:37 pm

If he takes a paycut I'd be willing to sign him next season. I still feel that in the right environment Melo can thrive and succeed similar to the position he was in back in 2009 in Denver.
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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:46 pm

XXIV wrote:If he takes a paycut I'd be willing to sign him next season. I still feel that in the right environment Melo can thrive and succeed similar to the position he was in back in 2009 in Denver.


He's not going to take a pay cut. Melo is the definition of a max contract talent. 2009 was Melo at his peak. He was a monster in the 2009 playoffs. But that team was also very, very talented. Melo is a ball stopper. He kills the offensive flow of a team. I would rather wait until 2016 and try to get Love and/or Durant and get complimentary pieces that would entice those guys to come here in the meantime.
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Postby trodgers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:55 pm

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Postby LakersN4 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:14 pm

Unless Pau is traded for something close to a star player by the deadline, we absolutely should sign Melo.. Yes It'd be great if he was younger, yes I have my doubts about him being a winner.. But you take the star player you can get this summer over the hypothetical guys we might be able to sign in 2015. Nothing is guaranteed, we can't afford to pass on this type of talent.
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Postby Rooscooter on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:28 pm

abeer3 wrote:how easy do people think it is to get their hands on a "true great"? the lakers have been uncommonly lucky in that regard, and i think the new cba was deliberately designed to end that. anthony may be the best player the lakers have a shot at in the next few years. now, if you'd rather try to build a non-star team, i can understand that desire. but wanting a better star...you're probably going to be disappointed for a while.


I'm not sure you can make that assumption so easily…. and signing a guy like Melo at 31 years old for a max deal ties your hands for years to come….. at which time you do the same thing again to keep a "star" on the floor? That's exactly what the Knicks have been doing since the mid 1990's…. they always have a marketable star…. and they never achieve much of anything.

Melo satisfies the need to have a marketable star on the team and very little else IMO…. especially given our circumstances of having a duplicate wing player and no front court whatsoever. We need to spend the money to balance the team. We will have a high scoring shoot first wing player for at least 2 years who is arguable just as good from a total contribution perspective. We will have no front court players which cost a lot more than wings in this league…. and there are far fewer of them as well.

I think we need to go after the best young front court player out there…. that seems to be Monroe this offseason and Love the next.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:34 pm

LakersN4 wrote:Unless Pau is traded for something close to a star player by the deadline, we absolutely should sign Melo.. Yes It'd be great if he was younger, yes I have my doubts about him being a winner.. But you take the star player you can get this summer over the hypothetical guys we might be able to sign in 2015. Nothing is guaranteed, we can't afford to pass on this type of talent.


Shaq was 24 or so when he signed with us. Howard was what? 27? It just makes little sense to go after Melo when he's going to turn 30 this May. As I said above, if this was Melo at 24 or something probably yeah. But now? And given the type of ball stopper that he is? Well, it doesn't make sense which means I expect Buss Jr to go hard after Melo and succeeding and further pissing off Laker fans.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby Lakerjones on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:42 pm

Kind of on the fence on this one. On the one hand I actually like Melo quite a bit. On the other, I'm not sure he's the guy to build around. But I don't think Love is either. The only guy I am 100% behind building around would be Durant but there's absolutely no guarantee he would come here. I really don't know what direction the FO is going to take. Seems like the complete unknown right now.
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Postby Lets Go Lakers on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:50 pm

Lakerjones wrote:Kind of on the fence on this one. On the one hand I actually like Melo quite a bit. On the other, I'm not sure he's the guy to build around. But I don't think Love is either. The only guy I am 100% behind building around would be Durant but there's absolutely no guarantee he would come here. I really don't know what direction the FO is going to take. Seems like the complete unknown right now.


History has shown that you need two superstars/stars to win rings (in most cases). I think Love would be a great superstar to complement a star guard like Irving or Westbrook.
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Postby Vasashi17 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:54 pm

Melo in, means MDA is out.
Melo is tight with Kobe.
Apparently Melo is also tight with Rondo.
Melo and Rondo are linked according to the media.
Melo is a superstar and there are only a few ahead of him that could do what he does.

Yeah, I'm definitely a yay person on this matter. But I do agree with the naysayers that Melo and Kobe alone can't get it done...you would need that Rondo piece.
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Re: Carmelo Anthony: Yah or nay?

Postby lakerfan2 on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:57 pm

Lets Go Lakers wrote:
Lakerjones wrote:Kind of on the fence on this one. On the one hand I actually like Melo quite a bit. On the other, I'm not sure he's the guy to build around. But I don't think Love is either. The only guy I am 100% behind building around would be Durant but there's absolutely no guarantee he would come here. I really don't know what direction the FO is going to take. Seems like the complete unknown right now.


History has shown that you need two superstars/stars to win rings (in most cases). I think Love would be a great superstar to complement a star guard like Irving or Westbrook.


I'm not so high on PG "stars". They're too fragile. Every. Single. One. CP3. DRose. Westbrook. DWill. Rondo. Something is always wrong with them.

Wing players are bigger and more durable, can take the hits and long season. Wiggins/Parker/George/Durant with Love/Marc Gasol is my crapshoot for the future.
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